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#474 Dec 21, 2017 (Kobolds Patch)
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I just got the golden warlock quest. Do you guys think, it will be playable anytime soon or is it just crap? I really don't like disenchanting legendaries, but since I'm missing many good cards i have to dust the crappy ones. Plus it's golden so i would get 1600 dust...

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#475 Dec 21, 2017 (Kobolds Patch)
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yo thanks so much man, so should I disenchant them so that I can craft Big Priest, I got both of them for free anyway and even if I dont disenchant them I almost have 4k dust that I can use. Btw these are the legendaries I currently have: Archmage Antonidas, Lynessa Sunsorrow, The Caverns Below, Hallazeal, Jaraxxus, Scourgelord Garrosh, Woecleaver, Patches, Leeroy, Aya Blackpaw, Twin Emperor Veklor, Marin the Useless, Alexstrasza, Malygos, Ysera, and Cthun.

I'm a really bad person to ask for disenchant advice. I'm firmly in the "never disenchant" camp but I know some people aren't for one reason or another and that's also fine. Woecleaver and Scourgelord Garrosh aren't great right now but they have potential to improve in the future, especially when Jade rotates since it's the main thing pushing control/fatigue warrior out of the meta right now.

Whether Big Priest is a safe craft or not is really dependent upon whether you play wild or not. Y'shaarj, Barnes, Dragonfire Potion, Greater Healing Potion, Pint Sized Potion, Shadow Word: Horror and other key cards are gone come April. We don't know what priest will get with the new expansion to replace these but I doubt that priest will retain all of it's goodies in the shakeup. This could kill Big Priest viability in Standard or it couldn't. If you don't have a lot of money or dust and don't play wild, then it's better to be cautious, ya know?

Regardless, these are just my two cents and it's up to you in the end. Happy crafting.

Edit: Also, you have a lot of nice legendaries in there. I'd hold onto most of those if not all of them.

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Quote from HrthPwnMasta >>

yo thanks so much man, so should I disenchant them so that I can craft Big Priest, I got both of them for free anyway and even if I dont disenchant them I almost have 4k dust that I can use. Btw these are the legendaries I currently have: Archmage Antonidas, Lynessa Sunsorrow, The Caverns Below, Hallazeal, Jaraxxus, Scourgelord Garrosh, Woecleaver, Patches, Leeroy, Aya Blackpaw, Twin Emperor Veklor, Marin the Useless, Alexstrasza, Malygos, Ysera, and Cthun.

May I answer your question tomorrow, since it's getting late in here and I would like to express my opinion thoroughly.

1) I think you have a lot of good or decent legendaries with few exceptions. I would surely keep them.

2) Personally I'm never a fan of crafting decks, which are going to lose crucial components after the rotation. I don't know if you like playing in wild, I don't read all the posts here, but if you are like me and don't like playing there competitively, then don't craft Big Priest. If I learned something from HS, that is, that every first expansion of a certain year brings the good stuff to the table. This means, although it's laughably early to talk about this, but keep your dust for the next expansion, as there you will get a huge pay off from your investments.

3) Although similar to the first point - I would never DE DKs. Never. Those cards are with a high power level, which with the right support can become extremely popular someday. Some more, some less. I don't think, that I have to mention the warlock, priest and druid DK for now, I would like to add - the Mage (super good in control decks) and Hunter DK. Warrior is yet to get some nice support, but the weapon is far more impactful than the paladin's one. Those two DKs are for me kinda underwhelming (+ valeera DK), but with a bright future some day. The shaman DK, personally for me, feels stupid, but people find a slot for him in the token deck.

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I just got the golden warlock quest. Do you guys think, it will be playable anytime soon or is it just crap? I really don't like disenchanting legendaries, but since I'm missing many good cards i have to dust the crappy ones. Plus it's golden so i would get 1600 dust...

I think golden warlock quest is a safe a DE as a DE can be, quest warlock got a new support card, but the winrate dropped even more... You can even craft the normal version for the same amount if it gets insane support next year.

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#481 Dec 21, 2017 (Kobolds Patch)
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Quote from caligo92 >>

I just got the golden warlock quest. Do you guys think, it will be playable anytime soon or is it just crap? I really don't like disenchanting legendaries, but since I'm missing many good cards i have to dust the crappy ones. Plus it's golden so i would get 1600 dust...

I had the misfortune of opening the warlock quest three times in my Ungoro preorder. I toyed around with it and tried to make it work, but discard is just plain bad in Hearthstone with it's current rules. Unless they add something that makes it not random down the line (be it a spell or minion or what have you), it'll always be an unreliable mechanic to bank on that you either highroll or lowroll with. I also found that pre-Malechezzar's Imp/Cataclysm cheese it usually was completed late in game (ie turns 7-10) where the impact of two free 3/2's doesn't really matter. I normally am in the never dust anything that could be useful, but since you opened a golden, it's probably better to get a free legendary from it because the fun value of the card doesn't outweigh the lack of competitiveness or it's lowroll frustration. Sorry I missed this one or I would have added it to my other comment.

Also somewhat offtopic but I'm so glad that dupe legendaries aren't a thing anymore because I was one of the really unlucky people during the Ungoro fiasco for dupe legendary opening.

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#482 Dec 21, 2017 (Kobolds Patch)
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Thanks for your answers, i think i will dust it then. First golden legendary and it's crap...

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#483 Dec 21, 2017 (Kobolds Patch)
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Quote from caligo92 >>

Thanks for your answers, i think i will dust it then. First golden legendary and it's crap...

Eh it's a free legendary of your choosing. I've won golden Onyxia, golden Ysera, golden Hobart Grapplehammer and golden Blood Queen Lathaniel. So three out of the four were crap lol.

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#484 Dec 21, 2017 (Kobolds Patch)
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Quote from Highwayman37 >>

Quote from caligo92 >>

Thanks for your answers, i think i will dust it then. First golden legendary and it's crap...

Eh it's a free legendary of your choosing. I've won golden Onyxia, golden Ysera, golden Hobart Grapplehammer and golden Blood Queen Lathaniel. So three out of the four were crap lol.

Yeah i know it's a free legendary, but i was still disappointed :D

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#485 Dec 21, 2017 (Kobolds Patch)
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Quote from caligo92 >>

Quote from Highwayman37 >>

Quote from caligo92 >>

Thanks for your answers, i think i will dust it then. First golden legendary and it's crap...

Eh it's a free legendary of your choosing. I've won golden Onyxia, golden Ysera, golden Hobart Grapplehammer and golden Blood Queen Lathaniel. So three out of the four were crap lol.

Yeah i know it's a free legendary, but i was still disappointed :D

Prepare yourself for more dissapointment... Getting the valuable legendary card in golden is sheer luck... I've had crap like yours, usables but not great (those are the most difficult to decide to disenchant) and 1 or 2 great ones but overall mainly crap... So you're not that unlucky, it's a free legendary with no reason to fear disenchanting it

on the other hand this means there are plenty of crappy Legendary... Good (because we already have many to craft) or bad (because of our luck factor), 50% empty or 50% full...

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#486 Dec 22, 2017 (Kobolds Patch)
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I got the golden Zola the Gorgon. Should i keep it or dust it?

If dusted, what is the best tier of the kobold legendariesto craft?

Thanks.

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I got the golden Zola the Gorgon. Should i keep it or dust it?

If dusted, what is the best tier of the kobold legendariesto craft?

Thanks.

He is one of those cards which can find a use some day. If you are in doubt about what to craft, I would keep him. If you really need legendary X for deck Y, I think it is quite safe to dust him.

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#488 Dec 22, 2017 (Kobolds Patch)
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Is Kun the Forgotten King necessary w/ Twig of the World Tree?

I packed Twig just now, but don't have Kun. I play some Druid and have consider crafting Kun in the past. Now Im sitting on dust but also considering Kathrena Winterwisp...I play a fair amount of Beast/Deathrattle Hunter, feel she'd make for a fun inclusion.

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#489 Dec 22, 2017 (Kobolds Patch)
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There is no penalty is dusting a golden. You can always recraft non golden at no loss of dust. Only if you are super attached to the golden copy would I say hold onto it.

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#490 Dec 22, 2017 (Kobolds Patch)
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Quote from Valiedhiel >>

I got the golden Zola the Gorgon. Should i keep it or dust it?

If dusted, what is the best tier of the kobold legendariesto craft?

Thanks.

Zola's 50-50. She's seeing play right now in some decks, but she's one of those legendaries that probably could improve. If you want to invest on her potential future she's worth the save. Since she's golden, however, it's less unforgiving if you happen to dust her and she's useful.

Quote from JMaritimes >>

Is Kun the Forgotten King necessary w/ Twig of the World Tree?

I packed Twig just now, but don't have Kun. I play some Druid and have consider crafting Kun in the past. Now Im sitting on dust but also considering Kathrena Winterwisp...I play a fair amount of Beast/Deathrattle Hunter, feel she'd make for a fun inclusion.

In my opinion it depends on the mode. In standard, Kun doens't add much to the otk decks, who either use the druid quest or other means to complete the otk. Kun is more often used to combo with Ultimate Infestation or to gain more armor to survive in a pinch. In wild, however, Kun is key to the Aviana/Kun otk combo that makes it more reliable to pull off.

Kathrena's alright, but I haven't seen a lot of dethrattle hunter experimentation with her. Overall, she mostly suffers from the "decent legendary but I could craft something better" syndrome for me. I feel like she'd work better in wild deathrattle hunter than standard, so I suppose for both the legendaries you mentioned it depends on what game mode you prefer to play. I am personally interested in deathrattle Kathrena so let me know what you come up with if you do craft her, since I don't have the dust to spare atm.

Happy crafting.

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I didn't forget about your post, I will share my opinion in an hour or so.

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#492 Dec 22, 2017 (Kobolds Patch)
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Hi quick question:

I have all of Tempo Mage except for the Weapon, and all of the Control Warlock except for the DK (and the cubes, but thats another story). Which one should I craft?

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Hi quick question:

I have all of Tempo Mage except for the Weapon, and all of the Control Warlock except for the DK (and the cubes, but thats another story). Which one should I craft?

Probably depends on which one you want to play.

But Warlock without DK is pretty much impossible to play, so he probably has most value over time.

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#494 Dec 22, 2017 (Kobolds Patch)
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Hi quick question:

I have all of Tempo Mage except for the Weapon, and all of the Control Warlock except for the DK (and the cubes, but thats another story). Which one should I craft?

Both of those decks basically require those legendaries, so you'll probably have to choose. Control Warlock is still being ironed out but it's pretty strong while it's being experimented on. Tempo Mage is admittedly good at preying on some of the high tier decks, but has super polarizing matchups and can sometimes kill itself on poor draws. Control Warlock will probably be the stronger deck in the end and Gul'dan is a safe craft for use in other warlock decks as well. I'd only go the Aluneth route if you really like playing mage over warlock. I have both legendaries and while I love them both, Gul'dan has been used more by me despite being a mage main.

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Thank you for assembling this list, it surely is helpful for people with some but limited ressources.

I would like to comment on "Thrall, Deathseer - Staple in most shaman decks." being in Tier 1 - Shaman is hardly playable in the top ranks, so I would consider him rather Tier 3 ~~or at best tier 2~~...but I wouldn't recommend crafting shaman cards to anyone at this point to be honest.

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I'm missing Kazakus and Raza the Chained for highlander priest, Sunkeeper Tarim for aggro palading, worth crafting now? Also I got golden Blood-Queen Lana'thel, dust or keep? Seeing as discardlock isn't going to see much play in the near future

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