Erm.... Where did I ever say that you should use Goya on a competitive basis? The only reason she isn't The Boogeymonster level bad, is because there are clear instances in which you can use her to advance your gameplay. A neutral Manic Soulcaster, but worse. Just look at Aviana. Before Kun, she almost never saw play. I would agree that she should get a slight buff, like Discover rather than straight random, but her niche is not as difficult to find as Lorewalker Cho or Wilfred Fizzlebang, and as such is a better card. If rated from 1 (Magma Rager) to 10 (Dr. Boom) for playability and reasons for inclusion, I would put her at a 3. If she gained Discover, I would definitely move her up to a 5. For comparison, The Boogeymonster and Wilfred Fizzlebang are 1s, while Lorewalker Cho and Majordomo Executus are 2s. By no means am I saying you should craft her. My stance is if you happen to open her in a pack, you should play around with her in a gimmick deck occasionally. No need to be a netdeck/ladder monkey all the time. Besides, theorycrafting gimmick decks can broaden your horizons to interactions in Hearthstone and you might find a gimmick deck that worms its way through the ladder meta and have fun doing so. The inclusion of ladder floors will give us the ability to play around with weird decks without having to worry about dropping out of our preferred rank.
Erm.... Where did I ever say that you should use Goya on a competitive basis? The only reason she isn't The Boogeymonster level bad, is because there are clear instances in which you can use her to advance your gameplay. A neutral Manic Soulcaster, but worse. Just look at Aviana. Before Kun, she almost never saw play. I would agree that she should get a slight buff, like Discover rather than straight random, but her niche is not as difficult to find as Lorewalker Cho or Wilfred Fizzlebang, and as such is a better card. If rated from 1 (Magma Rager) to 10 (Dr. Boom) for playability and reasons for inclusion, I would put her at a 3. If she gained Discover, I would definitely move her up to a 5. For comparison, The Boogeymonster and Wilfred Fizzlebang are 1s, while Lorewalker Cho and Majordomo Executus are 2s. By no means am I saying you should craft her. My stance is if you happen to open her in a pack, you should play around with her in a gimmick deck occasionally. No need to be a netdeck/ladder monkey all the time. Besides, theorycrafting gimmick decks can broaden your horizons to interactions in Hearthstone and you might find a gimmick deck that worms its way through the ladder meta and have fun doing so. The inclusion of ladder floors will give us the ability to play around with weird decks without having to worry about dropping out of our preferred rank.
well that's true..but the gimmick is not really there can't think about anything really amazing to do with the card... the minions you can pull off can't be choosen so you kinda might get... misstress of mixtures for a totem or something.. and feel bad it's a really bad designed card in my opinion it's obviously was made as a fun card, but there's not enough consistancy in the card to make it any good in that area either..
I didn't disenchant yogg for example and would like to play such a deck if you could live to turn 10 but you can't you die on turn 4 and a nerf to 2 cards won't change the meta TOO much in my opinion
She works great in my obese Paladin deck. On t6 I put a silver hand recruit in my deck and get, at worst, a vanilla 8/8, and at best rag or y'shaarj or something like that.
She's worse then the currently unplayed Wilfred Fizzlebang. Basically, a 6 mana 4/3 requires insane stuff to be playable (such as Charge + Divine Shield ) while what we are discussing here is "random, somewhat goood"
Disguised Toast got to legend this month using Madam Goya, Barnes, Innervate, Lunar Visions, and a ton of removal and high cost non-battlecry value minions like Rag, Chromaggus, Deathwing Dragonlord, Ysera, Ysaarj, etc.
Seems like it could be fun. Not sure how playable it is exactly but if you stack legendaries and go control you might have something. I've traded tokens created with legendaries using her before and it makes people cry. Still... Not sure how practical she is.
Its like a weird, awkward combination of Barnes and Ancient Brewmaster. What was the thought process behind the card, I have no idea. I dont think the effect was ever in danger of being 'broken' so why couldnt they give her a better statted body?
Also a shame because Goya is one of the most potentially flavorful WoW characters, as the leader of the Black Market Auction house. Missed opportunity on this card.
Erm.... Where did I ever say that you should use Goya on a competitive basis? The only reason she isn't The Boogeymonster level bad, is because there are clear instances in which you can use her to advance your gameplay. A neutral Manic Soulcaster, but worse. Just look at Aviana. Before Kun, she almost never saw play. I would agree that she should get a slight buff, like Discover rather than straight random, but her niche is not as difficult to find as Lorewalker Cho or Wilfred Fizzlebang, and as such is a better card. If rated from 1 (Magma Rager) to 10 (Dr. Boom) for playability and reasons for inclusion, I would put her at a 3. If she gained Discover, I would definitely move her up to a 5. For comparison, The Boogeymonster and Wilfred Fizzlebang are 1s, while Lorewalker Cho and Majordomo Executus are 2s. By no means am I saying you should craft her. My stance is if you happen to open her in a pack, you should play around with her in a gimmick deck occasionally. No need to be a netdeck/ladder monkey all the time. Besides, theorycrafting gimmick decks can broaden your horizons to interactions in Hearthstone and you might find a gimmick deck that worms its way through the ladder meta and have fun doing so. The inclusion of ladder floors will give us the ability to play around with weird decks without having to worry about dropping out of our preferred rank.
Wants to play Captain Cookie Druid because why not?
She works great in my obese Paladin deck. On t6 I put a silver hand recruit in my deck and get, at worst, a vanilla 8/8, and at best rag or y'shaarj or something like that.
6 Mana is huge. I wouldn't play her if she was costed 5 (but she might be considered)
As for comparison with Lorewalker Cho or Majordomo Executus , at least they own a few brawl or some adventures
She's worse then the currently unplayed Wilfred Fizzlebang. Basically, a 6 mana 4/3 requires insane stuff to be playable (such as Charge + Divine Shield ) while what we are discussing here is "random, somewhat goood"
Disguised Toast got to legend this month using Madam Goya, Barnes, Innervate, Lunar Visions, and a ton of removal and high cost non-battlecry value minions like Rag, Chromaggus, Deathwing Dragonlord, Ysera, Ysaarj, etc.
And thats before the recent aggro nerfs.
Anger is the punishment we give ourselves for someone else's mistake.
usually he plays funny decks :) do you have a decklist for this goya madness? :)
Seems like it could be fun. Not sure how playable it is exactly but if you stack legendaries and go control you might have something. I've traded tokens created with legendaries using her before and it makes people cry. Still... Not sure how practical she is.
Got this as my first legendary for Gadgetzan FeelsBadMan. Wanted to make it work badly sadly not viable.
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Gonna play it but only because I play meme decks... should have been atleast 5/5 for 6 as the effect is not that insane.
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Its like a weird, awkward combination of Barnes and Ancient Brewmaster. What was the thought process behind the card, I have no idea. I dont think the effect was ever in danger of being 'broken' so why couldnt they give her a better statted body?
Also a shame because Goya is one of the most potentially flavorful WoW characters, as the leader of the Black Market Auction house. Missed opportunity on this card.