Ohh, I see... so N'Zoth Paladin is at Tier 3 because I'm only at rank 10? I've never seen a single Shaman in ladder, though, and my deck is doing great against both aggro and control. In my past, I think like 6 or so games, I fought a couple Secret Paladins, a couple Patron Warriors, a Midrange Hunter and another N'Zoth Paladin. Oh and a decent Control Priest. I've only lost through the worst RNG: Losing to a Brawl where the opponent keeps the only minion out of 6 total, just enough to deal lethal damage with Nightmare. Oh and I lost from D/C. I think I'm 6-2 today, but I haven't been keeping track, I just know I only lost two games.
Now, I'm not new to HS or MTG, but I've never focused too deeply on getting legendary. Been playing HS since season 2 and haven't gotten Legend once (I don't care too much, I'm just here for the fun games). To improve my knowledge on the deck interactions, could you tell me what makes N'Zoth Paladin lose by rank 5? Why is it not legend material?
What deck is best for getting me from rank 10 to rank 5, and then from 5 to legend?
Eater of Secrets simply makes any class destroy Freeze Mage, at any rank, it's also the biggest counter card to like 50% of the players in Wild, Secret Paladins, so a lot of people include it, add to that the impossible matchup that is Warrior and i can't see how you would name Freeze tier 1, ever.
This month I got rank 5 in standard, and then decided to rest a bit in wild, doing dailies and farming portraits.
I started around rank 13 doing missions with my zoolock, and managed to get to rank 5 with a single loss: that's why I decided to push for legend.
I continued to climb up to rank 3 with something like 80% winrate, then hit a wall for half a day. The next day, I pushed up to rank 1 without a single loss, again.. and then the real grinding started.
There were not so much wild players at high ranks this season, so I used to face the same people for days: I met this guy who was playing tempo mage at rank 1 four times in a row, and managed to farm easy win on him; the fourth time by the way, he didn't start with the usual mana wyrm, apprentice and so on... so I realized he switched to freeze mage just in time to farm me, this time AHAHHAHA
I lost my final boss 3 times and was so tilty I even almost de-ranked up to rank 3, but finally managed to do it.
It was fun when I first started, but I have to admit wild is not funny or entertaining anymore once you enter the "competitive" ranks: I can easily say that almost half of my matches this season were against secret paladins (the most frustrating deck to lose against), but WoG also introduced some other broken and uninteractive combos like control priests/warriors with double deathlord, belcher etc... which they summon again using N'Zoth.
At legend ranks I mostly faced hunters with flare (in order to counter paladins) and freeze mages (for the same reason), but also brainless face shamans: I'd say wild might offer the opportunity to play against a lot of different decks... but the secredin nightmare is still there to occupy big majority of the ladder, and that's not funny. Not even if you're playing a decks which counters them (or at least tries to).
I ranked up to top 130 for fun, but then lost any interest in facing the same deck over and over again, so decided to quit with ladder and switch to arena instead.
If I ever decide to try wild again next months, it might be a good opportunity to actually gold my mage portrait using freeze mage.
Ohh, I see... so N'Zoth Paladin is at Tier 3 because I'm only at rank 10? I've never seen a single Shaman in ladder, though, and my deck is doing great against both aggro and control. In my past, I think like 6 or so games, I fought a couple Secret Paladins, a couple Patron Warriors, a Midrange Hunter and another N'Zoth Paladin. Oh and a decent Control Priest. I've only lost through the worst RNG: Losing to a Brawl where the opponent keeps the only minion out of 6 total, just enough to deal lethal damage with Nightmare. Oh and I lost from D/C. I think I'm 6-2 today, but I haven't been keeping track, I just know I only lost two games.
Now, I'm not new to HS or MTG, but I've never focused too deeply on getting legendary. Been playing HS since season 2 and haven't gotten Legend once (I don't care too much, I'm just here for the fun games). To improve my knowledge on the deck interactions, could you tell me what makes N'Zoth Paladin lose by rank 5? Why is it not legend material?
What deck is best for getting me from rank 10 to rank 5, and then from 5 to legend?
Dont get me wrong i certainly think it can make it to legend and is a strong deck but a lot of people are playing this deck to climb through the low ranks, at the high ranks there are a lot of zoolocks and secret paladins both of which are tough match ups for n'zoth paladin as they can just be too fast. I used this deck to get from 10-5 in one streak N'zoth Zoo and then used this one from 5 to 2 Malygos Freeze
as a top 100 wild legend player, what i fight the most is patron/control warriors, shamans and zoo warlocks.. now and then a control priest or a control paladin... but that is pretty much it
Pretty sure N'Zoth Priest should be tier one, it simply beats every other deck out there. Got me to Legend in around a day.
While Zoo and Secret Paladin and Freeze Mage certainly are strong, the only reason people seem to play them is that there aren't any other lists to netdeck. I'm certain decks that are refined specifically for Wild beat all of the easily.
I'm missing 120 wins for golden Priest. Do you recommend to play wild? Haven't played Wild yet.
Priest is in a bad spot in Standard.
Yes, N'Zoth Priest (at least around rank 5 -> Legend) was favorable against every single matchup I played. The only trick is to make your own deck and incorporate all of the best cards are every expansion. I have my personal decklist if you want it but it's probably funner and more in the spirit of wild to make your own.
*The list above is the ranking for ranks 5 and above and are likely very different at lower ranks*
Thanks for this, I'm playing on ranks >15 and have seen none of those during the past week, except for a few beast hunters which could be classified as midrange hunters (tho' they weren't net decked) and two tempo mages in casual.
I started wild with N'zoth priest, which works ok with belchers and deathlords--but slow. Climbed with mech mage mostly to rank 12, then switched to Secret N'Zoth Pally up to rank 8. It's powerful deck, but gets stomped by Eater.
I have seen 0 freeze mages, few shammys, lots of secret paladins and towards the upper ranks more zoo and patron warrior. But what I like about wild is you never know whats coming, quite a few unique and creative decks that you would not expect.
I added a single Flare to my N'Zoth Hunter deck which includes Feign Death and Princess Huhuran and I'm definitely doing much better against Freeze Mages and Secret Paladins. It proves useful in other matchups as well. The worse case scenario is you spend two mana to draw a card.
And yes, I'm seeing a lot of Eater of Secrets being teched as well in Wild.
Until the middle of June it will be patron. People will try to climb with fast aggro decks like N`sp, face shaman, tempomage. Short game session, high winrate, easy to pilot. Patron is a good answer on that, because low mana curve, massive card draw (if u lucky u can draw all deck turn 8) and especially 5 mana combo (1 turn before Mysterious Challenger).
Also, on high ranks, especially in night time, I often play vs same opponents and I use comborenolock, midrange renopally, murlockspally decks as an addition to patron to play bad mu.
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Ohh, I see... so N'Zoth Paladin is at Tier 3 because I'm only at rank 10? I've never seen a single Shaman in ladder, though, and my deck is doing great against both aggro and control. In my past, I think like 6 or so games, I fought a couple Secret Paladins, a couple Patron Warriors, a Midrange Hunter and another N'Zoth Paladin. Oh and a decent Control Priest. I've only lost through the worst RNG: Losing to a Brawl where the opponent keeps the only minion out of 6 total, just enough to deal lethal damage with Nightmare. Oh and I lost from D/C. I think I'm 6-2 today, but I haven't been keeping track, I just know I only lost two games.
Now, I'm not new to HS or MTG, but I've never focused too deeply on getting legendary. Been playing HS since season 2 and haven't gotten Legend once (I don't care too much, I'm just here for the fun games). To improve my knowledge on the deck interactions, could you tell me what makes N'Zoth Paladin lose by rank 5? Why is it not legend material?
What deck is best for getting me from rank 10 to rank 5, and then from 5 to legend?
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Eater of Secrets simply makes any class destroy Freeze Mage, at any rank, it's also the biggest counter card to like 50% of the players in Wild, Secret Paladins, so a lot of people include it, add to that the impossible matchup that is Warrior and i can't see how you would name Freeze tier 1, ever.
Would you share your deck list? I would be interested.
Alex from Naples, I think I met you before on Wild ladder ( my nickname is TheBeast just like your last played opponent )!
Hi from Bologna :)
I like to play Tempo Mage or Nzoth Priest in Wild.
Very nice thread. I was looking for Wild info and data... Thank you!
Wild Malygos Freeze Mage
as a top 100 wild legend player, what i fight the most is patron/control warriors, shamans and zoo warlocks.. now and then a control priest or a control paladin... but that is pretty much it
Do we get separate rewards for both Wild and Standard? Or for just 1 format in which our rank is higher?
Control Warrior should be Tier-1 in Wild. It wrecks Shaman, Zoolock, and other Aggro decks.
I started wild with N'zoth priest, which works ok with belchers and deathlords--but slow. Climbed with mech mage mostly to rank 12, then switched to Secret N'Zoth Pally up to rank 8. It's powerful deck, but gets stomped by Eater.
I have seen 0 freeze mages, few shammys, lots of secret paladins and towards the upper ranks more zoo and patron warrior. But what I like about wild is you never know whats coming, quite a few unique and creative decks that you would not expect.
I added a single Flare to my N'Zoth Hunter deck which includes Feign Death and Princess Huhuran and I'm definitely doing much better against Freeze Mages and Secret Paladins. It proves useful in other matchups as well. The worse case scenario is you spend two mana to draw a card.
And yes, I'm seeing a lot of Eater of Secrets being teched as well in Wild.
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I also want to clarify that I am a NA player and do not know what the top tiers look like in the EU or Asia
Wild Malygos Freeze Mage
I have been Top-1 eu in a Wild for 3 weeks with my patron deck. N`Zoth secret paladin is not the strongest deck, its the popular one.
Wild Malygos Freeze Mage
Until the middle of June it will be patron. People will try to climb with fast aggro decks like N`sp, face shaman, tempomage. Short game session, high winrate, easy to pilot. Patron is a good answer on that, because low mana curve, massive card draw (if u lucky u can draw all deck turn 8) and especially 5 mana combo (1 turn before Mysterious Challenger).
Also, on high ranks, especially in night time, I often play vs same opponents and I use comborenolock, midrange renopally, murlockspally decks as an addition to patron to play bad mu.