Hey there ... not sure how the balancing was done but srsly there is just way way too much Warrior right now on the ladder. From my 10 games today 9 have been against Warrior ... even if it's an expansion fresh out of the oven it's already starting to get boring facing the exact same deck over and over ... I completely gave up on ranked for the time being as I might see other decks/cards in casual ...
btw. wondering how many people pushing the fotm Warrior were staying with the class during hard times like K&C ... every victory was hard earned and people would often send friend requests to give some sympathy for pushing it during hard times ^^
Bomb warrior isn't that OP at all - I keep losing with it to token druids, mech hunters, ressurect priests etc. And I took rank 3 with Odd Warrior during previous meta, so I can play. Meta is much more balanced than it is common to say atm.
btw. wondering how many people pushing the fotm Warrior were staying with the class during hard times like K&C ... every victory was hard earned and people would often send friend requests to give some sympathy for pushing it during hard times ^^
I see now. So, that's why everybody, who send me a friend request, did so to insult me, cuz I kicked his ass with a meta deck and didn't "hard earn" my victory with a class, during his "hard times". Everything is clear to me now. I am a scumbag, brainless netdecker.
But seriously, you should take a break from the game, if it's so boring for you. I believe there are other, exciting games.
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This isn't about some netdeck argument or people flocking to the fotm - that is to be expected ... it's about Blizzard not testing things properly and messing up the balance = people abusing the more effective strategy
+ It's not the Bomb warrior that I am talking about ... it's Control Warrior that appeared 1-2 days ago that doesn't even play the bomb package (the whole bomb thing got overhyped as the decks power lies in tons of removal+armor+infinite value ... the bomb version is actually inferior to the control version)
If you are having trouble with control warrior, the worst match up in terms of winrate is against mech hunter (according to hsreplay). Try that deck out and see how that works out
I played that scumbag control warrior (own build but still), it's bad against plenty of decks, but almost nobody is playing THOSE decks and I am also not going to tell what they were because I want CW to be good for just a little bit longer.
Most fun I had is thinking of the surprise on the other side every time I played Deadly Arsenal into Gorehowl (2x, only weapon in deck) If you add in Arcanite Reaper I actually think that card is good now, but I hate the playstyle where a card can become completely dead if you draw all your weapons.
My opponent was control warrior with Archivist and Baleful Banker.
I was control warrior with Archivist only, BUT I got Chef Nomi off my Archivist and my opponent played shield blocks and acolytes of pain, so I wasn't ten cards behind. More like six cards behind.
My opponent got Omega Assembly AND Dragon Roar from the Archivist. By the end of the game, he played 7 Omega Devastators.
I won.
It was an amazing game. I know it's not desirable to slow the whole meta down that much, but the possibility of games like that is one of the things I love about this game.
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My opponent was control warrior with Archivist and Baleful Banker.
I was control warrior with Archivist only, BUT I got Chef Nomi off my Archivist and my opponent played shield blocks and acolytes of pain, so I wasn't ten cards behind. More like six cards behind.
My opponent got Omega Assembly AND Dragon Roar from the Archivist. By the end of the game, he played 7 Omega Devastators.
I won.
It was an amazing game. I know it's not desirable to slow the whole meta down that much, but the possibility of games like that is one of the things I love about this game.
Me too, but it's my fear this will become the norm and not the exception.
It's more of "what else can be done?" You have absolutely no control over what other people are playing. If you keep seeing the same deck over and over, the best thing you can do is play what is best against it. I understand completely that people get tired of seeing the same thing over and over, it happens to me too. But saying is unbeatable or OP... I don't know if I would go that far yet. Especially when it isday 4 of the expansion being out. Give it at least a couple weeks to see how things level out. Hell, if i remember right, it was several weeks after boomsday came out before control warrior started playing Supercollider, which was originally written off as a somewhat bad card. You never know what people are going to come up with and try out.
Yeah, well according to HS replay, the mech hunter has a dominating win rate over warrior.
That deck is not particularly expensive; I know you need an Oblivitron, but that's the way the game works.
You RUIN warrior with that deck.
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It is temporary. People have already massively adapted to the deck. That's how a meta forms. 1 or 2 decks are op, people adapt and form counters, decks 1 and 2 try to adapt again, etc.
But... maybe the new dr Boom card gets nerfed fairly soon, because that card is very hard to counter
Meta has to one of the most boring ones since any year rotation before. You meet like 4-5 same decks already, almost no experimentation and no room for it. Most decks feel like garbage, like there is something missing in all of them. It was just a couple of days and I am already getting bored.
Give it time and you'll see warrior fall off a little. Right now it's popular because everyone got on the nostalgia bomb hype train and because that wore off they just went full control. It has some bad matchups you can exploit, which means everyone will exploit them.
I think warrior has to many removals, it is insane!
I do not complain too much since I’m doing pretty well against them with my home-brew Rogue deck. But I understand the frustration that some people has when they notice is damn hard to keep minions on board against warrior.
Hey there ... not sure how the balancing was done but srsly there is just way way too much Warrior right now on the ladder. From my 10 games today 9 have been against Warrior ... even if it's an expansion fresh out of the oven it's already starting to get boring facing the exact same deck over and over ... I completely gave up on ranked for the time being as I might see other decks/cards in casual ...
btw. wondering how many people pushing the fotm Warrior were staying with the class during hard times like K&C ... every victory was hard earned and people would often send friend requests to give some sympathy for pushing it during hard times ^^
2 quick tips for you:
1- post this useless stuff here.
2 - play token druid.
Bomb warrior isn't that OP at all - I keep losing with it to token druids, mech hunters, ressurect priests etc. And I took rank 3 with Odd Warrior during previous meta, so I can play. Meta is much more balanced than it is common to say atm.
No brain - no pain.
I love warrior,so there's that...xD
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I see now. So, that's why everybody, who send me a friend request, did so to insult me, cuz I kicked his ass with a meta deck and didn't "hard earn" my victory with a class, during his "hard times". Everything is clear to me now. I am a scumbag, brainless netdecker.
But seriously, you should take a break from the game, if it's so boring for you. I believe there are other, exciting games.
“If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.” ― George Bernard Shaw
EU Legend: S52 (ZooHeal Lock); S76 (Highlander Hunter);
This isn't about some netdeck argument or people flocking to the fotm - that is to be expected ... it's about Blizzard not testing things properly and messing up the balance = people abusing the more effective strategy
+ It's not the Bomb warrior that I am talking about ... it's Control Warrior that appeared 1-2 days ago that doesn't even play the bomb package (the whole bomb thing got overhyped as the decks power lies in tons of removal+armor+infinite value ... the bomb version is actually inferior to the control version)
If you are having trouble with control warrior, the worst match up in terms of winrate is against mech hunter (according to hsreplay). Try that deck out and see how that works out
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I played that scumbag control warrior (own build but still), it's bad against plenty of decks, but almost nobody is playing THOSE decks and I am also not going to tell what they were because I want CW to be good for just a little bit longer.
Most fun I had is thinking of the surprise on the other side every time I played Deadly Arsenal into Gorehowl (2x, only weapon in deck) If you add in Arcanite Reaper I actually think that card is good now, but I hate the playstyle where a card can become completely dead if you draw all your weapons.
People always go about these arguments the wrong way. Here's what I hear.
"Everyone is playing <insert stupid unfun netdeck here>."
"Then just play <insert stupid unfun netdeck here.>."
I just played a game that lasted 42 turns.
My opponent was control warrior with Archivist and Baleful Banker.
I was control warrior with Archivist only, BUT I got Chef Nomi off my Archivist and my opponent played shield blocks and acolytes of pain, so I wasn't ten cards behind. More like six cards behind.
My opponent got Omega Assembly AND Dragon Roar from the Archivist. By the end of the game, he played 7 Omega Devastators.
I won.
It was an amazing game. I know it's not desirable to slow the whole meta down that much, but the possibility of games like that is one of the things I love about this game.
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Me too, but it's my fear this will become the norm and not the exception.
It's more of "what else can be done?" You have absolutely no control over what other people are playing. If you keep seeing the same deck over and over, the best thing you can do is play what is best against it. I understand completely that people get tired of seeing the same thing over and over, it happens to me too. But saying is unbeatable or OP... I don't know if I would go that far yet. Especially when it is day 4 of the expansion being out. Give it at least a couple weeks to see how things level out. Hell, if i remember right, it was several weeks after boomsday came out before control warrior started playing Supercollider, which was originally written off as a somewhat bad card. You never know what people are going to come up with and try out.
Yeah, well according to HS replay, the mech hunter has a dominating win rate over warrior.
That deck is not particularly expensive; I know you need an Oblivitron, but that's the way the game works.
You RUIN warrior with that deck.
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Why u hav to be mad? is only card gaem.
It is temporary. People have already massively adapted to the deck. That's how a meta forms. 1 or 2 decks are op, people adapt and form counters, decks 1 and 2 try to adapt again, etc.
But... maybe the new dr Boom card gets nerfed fairly soon, because that card is very hard to counter
Meta has to one of the most boring ones since any year rotation before. You meet like 4-5 same decks already, almost no experimentation and no room for it. Most decks feel like garbage, like there is something missing in all of them. It was just a couple of days and I am already getting bored.
Give it time and you'll see warrior fall off a little. Right now it's popular because everyone got on the nostalgia bomb hype train and because that wore off they just went full control. It has some bad matchups you can exploit, which means everyone will exploit them.
I think warrior has to many removals, it is insane!
I do not complain too much since I’m doing pretty well against them with my home-brew Rogue deck. But I understand the frustration that some people has when they notice is damn hard to keep minions on board against warrior.
Bomb Warrior is not OP at all. I beat this deck with my Khadgar Mage and Token Druid.