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    posted a message on If people complain about a card, even when it isn't good, that's more of a sign that it's bad for the game
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    uh, what right wing theories?   The only conspiracies here have a decided anti-corporate bent, not usually what you associate with the right.

    Or do you just associate everything you don't like with the right?

    I agree with you in general, just curious about that comment.

     Two posts up:

    "I guess CCG's  grew up with Generation Z. They learn that it is perfectly normal to be unfair, imbalanced, partizan in card design and serve a target audience in other words to be repulsive as a normal state. I didn't grow up in that time frame"

    He's literally giving the old "waaah people are discriminating against conservatives" speech with a little bit of smog over it

    The Blizzard ecosystem has become pretty right leaning recently, with people praising Trump in tradechat in WoW, using racist dogwhistles against Horde, etc. 

    And the right has been real anti corporate lately against anyone they see as either "woke" or in with China, both of which Blizzard falls into lately

     For the love of god can we keep politics out of every damn thing.  The left is ********, the right is ********.  The sooner people understand that the sooner we can move on with our lives.

     I mean. Every person who says that turns out to be libertarian who are worse than either so...

    I am a libertarian.  People only think we’re  worse because they think we’re fence sitters.  But that’s neither here nor there, your lack of understanding of the ideology isn’t an argument against it.  That aside if you want proof that both the left at the right suck look no further than the state of American politics right now.

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    posted a message on Which battle-ready deck did you get?
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    i want to buy those cards with 2000 gold

    i'm not really interested in paying $$$ for it

     I want to buy a Lamborghini with sesame seeds I’m not interested in paying $$$

     Not even remotely a similar case, unless you're in a Lamborghini club where they allow you to rent or trade points you've accumulated against a new one.  Don't get why people have to 'try' being smart @ss, we should be able to buy these crappy sets for gold.  We've earned it through actual play, it is purely greed once again that they only sell them for cash.  

     You both have bad arguments.

     

    The Lambo analogy is terrible, but so is your entitled attitude. The game costs money to run, there are hundreds of devs and artists who need to get paid and servers to run etc. 

     

    If you're not contributing to the game at all then don't bitch about not getting more shit, you're already getting multiple legendaries, packs galore, way more gold than you were at any point previously, etc. And cosmetics raining from the sky, I remember when to get hero skins for some characters you had to physically go to a theater and watch the Warcraft movie. 

     

    I bought just the mega bundle and have no need to buy any of these decks because I already have all the cards from them. If they gave people the ability to just buy whatever deck they wanted with gold why would anyone spend money on the game? 

     Pretty much this.  I don’t have a problem with people being F2P.  If you can make it work that’s great.  But if you aren’t supporting the game you have no stake in it and you certainly don’t have a leg to stand on and complain.

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    posted a message on If people complain about a card, even when it isn't good, that's more of a sign that it's bad for the game
    Quote from SinAscendant >>
    Quote from Shadowrisen >>

    uh, what right wing theories?   The only conspiracies here have a decided anti-corporate bent, not usually what you associate with the right.

    Or do you just associate everything you don't like with the right?

    I agree with you in general, just curious about that comment.

     Two posts up:

    "I guess CCG's  grew up with Generation Z. They learn that it is perfectly normal to be unfair, imbalanced, partizan in card design and serve a target audience in other words to be repulsive as a normal state. I didn't grow up in that time frame"

    He's literally giving the old "waaah people are discriminating against conservatives" speech with a little bit of smog over it

    The Blizzard ecosystem has become pretty right leaning recently, with people praising Trump in tradechat in WoW, using racist dogwhistles against Horde, etc. 

    And the right has been real anti corporate lately against anyone they see as either "woke" or in with China, both of which Blizzard falls into lately

     For the love of god can we keep politics out of every damn thing.  The left is retarded, the right is retarded.  The sooner people understand that the sooner we can move on with our lives.

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    posted a message on If people complain about a card, even when it isn't good, that's more of a sign that it's bad for the game
    Quote from Bengalaas >>
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    It's called paradigm. That timeframe where people adhere to a fix set of believes, in CGC that 'It's impossible to perfectly balance any competitive game.' and other psychological truths about 'best decks and strategies' It's written in stone. People within a paradigm tend to suffer from the Myth of the Given.

    When a paradigm change overnight believes change and suddenly opinion change. Never argue as if things never change. Monetization by keeping the game aggressive is a choice not a given. Slowing down the game just attracts another paying crowd. 

    It's hard for Blizzard defenders to think outside the paradigm Blizzard set out for them to believe in. It's hard for flatlanders to think in third dimension. You can call it the Big Lie that the dominance of aggro is inevitable and that 'players will generally lean towards doing whatever it is makes them win the easiest.' 

    Card design is pure authoritarianism  for CGC which is based on the broader notion of decisionism

     I don't understand how making the metagame aggressive serves monetization. Aggro decks are historicslly the cheapest kind, therefore any company that wishes to make the gzme more expensive should steer away from it, shouldn't it?

    The current roster of tier 1 decks in Standard are the cheapest i can remember, how is that the product of greedy corporate design?

    Yeah the corporate conspiracy theories about blizzard’s card design never make any sense.  Aggro endures largely because it’s cheap, accessible, and fast.  From a monetary standpoint aggro is bad for blizzard because people achieve the maximum benefit for the least amount of investment.  But blizzard also understands aggro has to exist for the balance of the game.  Hell look at token druid.  The deck runs no legendaries at all and it’s a solid tier 2 deck.

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    posted a message on Which battle-ready deck did you get?
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    I can’t believe people are buying this……. Blizzard is copying from net decking sites and people give them their $$! Clever!

    Before you know it a nerf and a mini expansion will result in an obsolete deck 

     It’s mostly for new or returning players who don’t have a good collection.  That aside, they aren’t copying net decking sites.  The internal data they have is far superior to VSSeeker or HSReplay lol.

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    posted a message on Wrath of Air..!

    Pretty sure the new totem is objectively better given the normal shaman game plan.  The hero power itself is still garbage though so it doesn’t matter.

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    posted a message on Which battle-ready deck did you get?

    I didn’t buy one but I have a friend who might.  Honestly. The warlock, priest, and warrior decks are the best.  The others seems suspect to me.

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    posted a message on Mysteries of the Phoenix cardback

    wow that card back is gorgeous.

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    posted a message on What makes you put the game down and just walk away?
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    I never really care about the skill of the opponent, but it's sort of funny . . . some people immediately quit if they caught themselves making a mistake that costs them the game.

    I tend to quit if I lose a series of games and, looking back on them, I can't think of anything I could have done differently to win any of them.  I don't mind losing from making a mistake, but it's a thing that happens a lot in HS whether thru deck choice, draw order, etc. that the individual game's outcome was pretty much decided even if played in a non-expert manner.

    That gets old, even though it is a fact of the game.

     This is what I was going to say as well.

    Yesterday, I would be playing and winning and feeling good, then today for some reason, playing the same deck, same time of day, same state of mind... loss after loss.

    It's a bit frustrating to think that without having changed anything in my deck or playstyle, in such a short period of time, everything can go the other way. So if I feel like I'm just on a losing streak, I'll give it a rest.

    I think that's just the nature of the game, being a card game and drawing your cards in the order you need is kind of important.

     Dude I feel that.  Yesterday I was on a 7 game win streak.  And not like a lucky win streak, but I felt I was making good observations and choices and actually playing really well.  Faced a secret Paladin who high rolled the 1 mana priest legendary and then dropped HOA on it.  Basically lost the game turn 2.  Lost 5 of my next 6 games after that with some really bad opening hands.  Kinda killed my drive to try and hit the next rank floor.

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    posted a message on What makes you put the game down and just walk away?

    Anyone else have things that just make you say, “today isn’t the day,” and just log out for a bit?  For me it’s when I have lethal and I’m just waiting for my opponent’s turn to end and they pull a Hail Mary out of their butt.  Like stars aligning, once in a blue moon type stuff.  I see that and I won’t log in for a day or 2, just to get away from that kind of bad luck.  I’d rather lose on turn 2 than have the rug pulled out from under me when I’m that close.  Extra points if it’s the rank up win I needed.

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    posted a message on Anyone else get anxiety while playing?

    I get really bad anxiety when I’m on a win streak.  Makes me not want to play which is so counter intuitive 

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    posted a message on How are Paladins still being left in their current state?
    Quote from Bengalaas >>

    You confuse "good" with "broken". The data says, that with most decks you have to be D5 to legend (which is around 5% of all HS players) if you want to have at least 50/50 against Paladin. If you are not that good (and 95% players are not) you will most likely lose against him, even despite being on the same skill level. Ye, that's wrong.

     Games aren't balanced around what mediocre players can do. They are balanced based on the actual potential of cards.

    If someone in Silver is playing a month old decklist because they can't be bothered to update it, then they absolutely should be stuck there. If someone in bronze is losing to secrets because they still haven't learned what secrets are available, then that's where they belong.

    Tis isn't elitism. Balancing the game based on the experience of players who can't play it as it is intended can't work.

    It is elitist.  You’re assuming people in lower ranks are simply mediocre.  While some are, Climbing takes time and not everyone dedicates that kind of time to the game.  So they could be good deck pilots but simply limited ones.  There’s also the F2P players to consider who are gonna be limited in what decks they can play.  Balancing everything around 5% of the client base leaves the game to die.  This is something tryhards and elitists don’t understand.  There has to be a middle ground.

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    posted a message on Please, we need this card to be dead
    Quote from D_Lord >>
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    Whether or not Alex needs to be nerfed is a point of opinion, but it is worth noting that neutral cards have been nerfed for being overly prevalent and mitigating class weaknesses too well.  Alex is powerful, prevalent, and mitigates multiple class weaknesses.

     This is such a bad design choice from Blizzard. Yeah sure, class identity matters and stuff, but there have been sooooooo many people complaining about the lack of diversity in the game/meta and now we are arguing about a freaking neutral 9-mana card that could enable non-control classes to go control and have a reliable finisher/healing tool? Why? Because the card is played across multiple classes? Or because it is "broken"? Or because it is included, yet not really needed, in several good meta decks? There are at least 20 cards in standard right now, at this very point in time, that are MUCH more problematic. And don't even get me started on Wild or Duels.

    I also can't stand this argument about classes and their access to certain tools. Card games are about the types of deck you play and not about the class. And the neutral cards exist specifically for giving access to tools you otherwise wouldn't have. Just because your hero power can gain 2 armor, doesn't mean you have to play control. I am sure there are many rush warrior players in standard and arrrrgh! pirate warrior players in wild who would agree. And if they ever stop with this class identity nonsense, which just limits design space and deck variety, we could even end up with a control hunter. I know, that sounds insane.

    Alex is just one good tool.

     Class identity is a very important concept in hearthstone that separates it from other TCGs, the most certainly should not give it up.  They do however need to stop stating it’s important all the while crapping all over it.  For example, warlock.  The whole thing about warlock is power at a cost, yet the only prevalent warlock deck on ladder uses a deck list containing 25 or so warlock cards and none of them fall into the class’s identity.  Giving up class identity means giving up on hearthstone.

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    posted a message on What is your favorite card voiceline?

    “I AM POWER INCARNATE”

    ”DIE INSECT”

    ”My dreams will be you’re nightmare.”

    but my all time favorite is OG Cthun.  “My dreaming ends, your nightmare begins.”

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    posted a message on Please, we need this card to be dead

    Whether or not Alex needs to be nerfed is a point of opinion, but it is worth noting that neutral cards have been nerfed for being overly prevalent and mitigating class weaknesses too well.  Alex is powerful, prevalent, and mitigates multiple class weaknesses.

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