I think a better question is (since Ice block seems like a goner) why did they even make the quest what it is? Same with simulacrum and molten reflection It's only purpose clearly is to have some form of OTK.
I think Blizzard is having trouble coming up with another viable archetype for Mage outside of OTK. Most other top end classes have a lot of value decks, which spell centric decks don't handle well. Frost LIch seems to be a move in the direction of solving it.
Theres just too many threats in decks now that Mage wouldn't be able to handle if Ice block didn't exist.
exodia mage is RNGesus's child, let it live while it still can
its very easy to disrupt and beat exodia, being a seasoned exodia mage player since the beginning of un'goro it doesnt have a high winrate unless piloted by a experienced player
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Kobolds are almost as bad as goblins, they gotta die (⌐■_■)–︻╦╤─
It does not have 99% win rate against anything. Its good matchups are Big Priest and Control Warlock, two decks that are not incredibly relevant in this meta anyway. Another positive, but not amazing matchup is Razakus Priest too. But Priest will win 1 out of 3 games there as well, and that's probably without teching in cards that help against mage. Since this type of mage isn't exactly prevalent in the meta, Razakus Priest is one of the top, and certainly one of the most popular decks in the meta right now. And hey, it has this bad matchup where it still wins every third game; what's wrong with that? If Exodia Mage was so bad, no one would dare play Razakus Priest, and it's pretty clear that it's the most played deck after Jade Druid. So, what have we learned from this? It is NOT an issue.
Now, I do feel for the Warlock, but it's just bad regardless of this bad matchup. Warlock is bad; Hunter is better, but still bad. Wait for Blizz to create something good for these two classes.
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Thank god around 75% of people voting in this thread are actually sane. :)
I used to play alot of exodia mage when jade druid was the rage. The deck had alot of weakness and is really only good vers slow deck like jade druid or priest.
. Tec cards like dirty rat or eater of secrets (if played correctly) pretty much give you an auto win vers exodia mage.
If you are losing to exodia mage your deck is to greedy or your just bad.
Everyone seems focused on whether the deck is OP or not. it'll probably never be 'op' in a given meta because obviously any form of aggro rekts it.
The bigger picture is, it clearly limits design space by having a 99% win rate versus certain archetypes, which kills diversity, which kills fun.
Not sure why the 'bigger picture' is so invisible to some.
Jade Druid says hello. I quit back in gadgetzan due to how one dimensional the game became due to jade Druid.It wasn't even that popular back then, but it's very existence EXTREMELY limited viable decks in the meta.I told everyone if it gets any support it'll make the meta brain dead, and looks like I was right.nice nerfs but it still exists.
It's been pretty much stated that next rotation Ice Block is headed to the Hall of Fame. When discussing it before, they said they don't like to add to the HOF when it's not a new year's card rotation. I think that will be more than enough to nerf the crap out of the deck because Ice Block is the only reason it's good.
It's not so powerful that I would say it needs to happen before that.
how come the lowest winrate deck Need to be nerfed
Why was Quest Rogue with ~45% winrate nerfed? It's not interactive deck and community doesn't enjoy that. Blizzard has to give atleast some fucks.
But tbh Exodia Mage is not even all that popular right now. I barley see them. And if you see them alot just tech in Eater of Secrets and you are good to go.
As a former Control Warrior, Combo Druid and Handlock player, seeing another favorite deck of mine get potentially destroyed is very frustrating. At least I'll be able to play it for another 6 months or so, hopefully.
Also I feel this is a slippery slope, secrets by their very nature are annoying to play against - particularly randomly generated ones - so if Ice Block can get HoF'd, what next? Counterspell?
I think a better question is (since Ice block seems like a goner) why did they even make the quest what it is? Same with simulacrum and molten reflection It's only purpose clearly is to have some form of OTK.
Exodia mage should have never been made. Much like Jade idol. It single handidly crushes an archetype.
Everyone seems focused on whether the deck is OP or not. it'll probably never be 'op' in a given meta because obviously any form of aggro rekts it.
The bigger picture is, it clearly limits design space by having a 99% win rate versus certain archetypes, which kills diversity, which kills fun.
Not sure why the 'bigger picture' is so invisible to some.
I think Blizzard is having trouble coming up with another viable archetype for Mage outside of OTK. Most other top end classes have a lot of value decks, which spell centric decks don't handle well. Frost LIch seems to be a move in the direction of solving it.
Theres just too many threats in decks now that Mage wouldn't be able to handle if Ice block didn't exist.
exodia mage is RNGesus's child, let it live while it still can
its very easy to disrupt and beat exodia, being a seasoned exodia mage player since the beginning of un'goro it doesnt have a high winrate unless piloted by a experienced player
Kobolds are almost as bad as goblins, they gotta die (⌐■_■)–︻╦╤─
It does not have 99% win rate against anything. Its good matchups are Big Priest and Control Warlock, two decks that are not incredibly relevant in this meta anyway. Another positive, but not amazing matchup is Razakus Priest too. But Priest will win 1 out of 3 games there as well, and that's probably without teching in cards that help against mage. Since this type of mage isn't exactly prevalent in the meta, Razakus Priest is one of the top, and certainly one of the most popular decks in the meta right now. And hey, it has this bad matchup where it still wins every third game; what's wrong with that? If Exodia Mage was so bad, no one would dare play Razakus Priest, and it's pretty clear that it's the most played deck after Jade Druid. So, what have we learned from this? It is NOT an issue.
Now, I do feel for the Warlock, but it's just bad regardless of this bad matchup. Warlock is bad; Hunter is better, but still bad. Wait for Blizz to create something good for these two classes.
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Thank god around 75% of people voting in this thread are actually sane. :)
I used to play alot of exodia mage when jade druid was the rage. The deck had alot of weakness and is really only good vers slow deck like jade druid or priest.
. Tec cards like dirty rat or eater of secrets (if played correctly) pretty much give you an auto win vers exodia mage.
If you are losing to exodia mage your deck is to greedy or your just bad.
No.
It's been pretty much stated that next rotation Ice Block is headed to the Hall of Fame. When discussing it before, they said they don't like to add to the HOF when it's not a new year's card rotation. I think that will be more than enough to nerf the crap out of the deck because Ice Block is the only reason it's good.
It's not so powerful that I would say it needs to happen before that.
how come the lowest winrate deck Need to be nerfed
EXODIA OBLITERATE!!!!!!!!
Bitch i'm Willy Wonka!
NO there are tons of cards that counter this deck, its up to you to make space in your deck for these cards if your scared of facing exodia mage...
As a former Control Warrior, Combo Druid and Handlock player, seeing another favorite deck of mine get potentially destroyed is very frustrating. At least I'll be able to play it for another 6 months or so, hopefully.
Also I feel this is a slippery slope, secrets by their very nature are annoying to play against - particularly randomly generated ones - so if Ice Block can get HoF'd, what next? Counterspell?
It will be rotated out, and Quest Mage is still irrelevant, regardless.
No! Never before and never again will this mage see ladder play! Let people have fun while we can please
besides somebody has to punish jade Druid for doing what they do
Play the new zoo and punish Druid. Easier and faster.