Control warrior in my opinion is an example of a class that don't have a counter.. Really the only counter to that deck is either the person playing it sucks or the worst hand/draws known to man.. It can handle all types of builds many minions to less minions
I mean its pretty hard to keep the warrior from stalling out the game til the big boys drop. Alex...rag... Yesera.. I mean decks loose all steam by that point.
That being said I find it far less balanced than hunter ATM... I win more times than not against hunter but I always hate running into warrior
Well the counter to control warrior is aggro decks, keep pressure on them (keep their armor down), play around brawl (or a well timed loatheb) and generally you're in the clear. Make sure they never get more than one card off acolyte of pain (if any). Warriors are pretty dismal at gaining card advantage outside of drawing multiple cards off of acolyte.
Control warrior in my opinion is an example of a class that don't have a counter.. Really the only counter to that deck is either the person playing it sucks or the worst hand/draws known to man.. It can handle all types of builds many minions to less minions
I mean its pretty hard to keep the warrior from stalling out the game til the big boys drop. Alex...rag... Yesera.. I mean decks loose all steam by that point.
That being said I find it far less balanced than hunter ATM... I win more times than not against hunter but I always hate running into warrior
Well the counter to control warrior is aggro decks, keep pressure on them (keep their armor down), play around brawl (or a well timed loatheb) and generally you're in the clear. Make sure they never get more than one card off acolyte of pain (if any). Warriors are pretty dismal at gaining card advantage outside of drawing multiple cards off of acolyte.
you cant put pressure on a warrior with an agro deck while playing around brawl...
not to mention things like deathbite are great counters for agro decks..
like i said... only way to beat the control warrior with agro is nothing on your part but more so them having the worst hand/draw possible... which is very unlikely
a good aggro deck may beat a control warrior deck 1 in 10 times.. i don't find this a good counter sorry
None of these changes will happen. Hunter may be one of the top classes currently, but it has it's counters. Until a deck is literally untouchable by all classes, we won't see any drastic changes or nerfs. Like some have mentioned, the probable solution will most likely be balance by additional cards.
/lol i like the part with the counter of hunter. or maybe i am wrong you say the counter of hunter is hunter ?
Just because you aren't able to counter it with warrior, priest, rogue, and some top shamans, doesn't mean that the class did not have hunters. Sorry the deck was too hard for you to figure out =(
Called it, love the fact everyone was saying it wouldnt get nerfed. at least they are severely hindering miracle and completely neutering hunter all at once.
None of these changes will happen. Hunter may be one of the top classes currently, but it has it's counters. Until a deck is literally untouchable by all classes, we won't see any drastic changes or nerfs. Like some have mentioned, the probable solution will most likely be balance by additional cards.
/lol i like the part with the counter of hunter. or maybe i am wrong you say the counter of hunter is hunter ?
Just because you aren't able to counter it with warrior, priest, rogue, and some top shamans, doesn't mean that the class did not have hunters. Sorry the deck was too hard for you to figure out =(
Yea sure man, blizzard nerf the hunter because it is easy to counter, everyone ban hunter in tournement because it is easy to counter. Wake up dude. =(
Everyone except Xixo who did not ban hunter and won the tournaments with Shaman and against Hunters... So it goes both ways...
I called it earlier in this thread; I said hunters didn't need a nerf, but they would get one because people are crying too loud for it. Blizzard can always come up with a reason later, after all, right?
The draw engine of hunters is too much, but not the one Rogues use with auctioneer? Got it....
So, who stands to gain from hunters being removed from the ladder? What deck will likely rise as a result? Shaman possibly; they've always had a weakness against unleash combos.
If it's not hunters, it's fucking cancer rogues, or plunder warriors, or gimmick inner fire priests, or zoo. There will always be a stupid mindless go face deck out there.
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If it's not hunters, it's fucking cancer rogues, or plunder warriors, or gimmick inner fire priests, or zoo. There will always be a stupid mindless go face deck out there.
Every deck goes face at one time or another, its how you win. Stop them from going face and they will lose.
lol yes and wizards of the coast bans cards cus people cry too loud as well. Seriously wake up they have a group of players who give feed back on the current state of the meta and new decks that pop up. As I posted before in this same forum the hunter decks that are going around meet 3 of 5 reasons why it needed to be nerfed.
None of these changes will happen. Hunter may be one of the top classes currently, but it has it's counters. Until a deck is literally untouchable by all classes, we won't see any drastic changes or nerfs. Like some have mentioned, the probable solution will most likely be balance by additional cards.
/lol i like the part with the counter of hunter. or maybe i am wrong you say the counter of hunter is hunter ?
Just because you aren't able to counter it with warrior, priest, rogue, and some top shamans, doesn't mean that the class did not have hunters. Sorry the deck was too hard for you to figure out =(
Yea sure man, blizzard nerf the hunter because it is easy to counter, everyone ban hunter in tournement because it is easy to counter. Wake up dude. =(
I've given plenty examples of what is able to counter hunter, and those are facts. I've also stated in multiple threads that I agree with people suggestioning that hunter is quite powerful, but what I've disagreed with was their proposals on how to fix/balance hunter. Blizzard completely killing a card, making it borderline unplayable (which I could be wrong on this, time will tell) was not optimal.
Most people have played blizzard games for quite some time now and they should know that a lot of there nerfs end up being on the extreme end and tha's what I wanted to avoid. I would have rather seen something that controlled the amount of card draw rather than dictating a minimal mana requirement for hunters to potentially go wild on card draw.
hunter is very easy OP deck for kids...thats all..that is reason why all kids play hunter
Well the counter to control warrior is aggro decks, keep pressure on them (keep their armor down), play around brawl (or a well timed loatheb) and generally you're in the clear. Make sure they never get more than one card off acolyte of pain (if any). Warriors are pretty dismal at gaining card advantage outside of drawing multiple cards off of acolyte.
Handlock still wasnt played nearly as much as hunter is now, on top of that just about any class can beat a handlock deck, its not one sided at all.
you cant put pressure on a warrior with an agro deck while playing around brawl...
not to mention things like deathbite are great counters for agro decks..
like i said... only way to beat the control warrior with agro is nothing on your part but more so them having the worst hand/draw possible... which is very unlikely
a good aggro deck may beat a control warrior deck 1 in 10 times.. i don't find this a good counter sorry
that was 2 months ago
Zoo has a very hard time with warrior.,, I think blown out of water like you said is a pretty big overstatement.. I'd say about 10% chance
Drud is not a real threat to warrior... Priest a toss up
Try Xixo's zoo season 6 ladder climb deck. Piloted correctly its really immune to removal.
also pally aggro is pretty decent against control warrior... divine favor will drop a giant turd on control decks.
hunter just has to much low cost removal compared to other classes. If only there were a control hunter...
Just because you aren't able to counter it with warrior, priest, rogue, and some top shamans, doesn't mean that the class did not have hunters. Sorry the deck was too hard for you to figure out =(
*sigh* RIP hunter. Nerf to buzzard and Leeroy confirmed http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/14279128810#1
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Now I feel lucky I decided not to craft flares yet, because I wanted to go competetive with hunter.
Called it, love the fact everyone was saying it wouldnt get nerfed. at least they are severely hindering miracle and completely neutering hunter all at once.
Everyone except Xixo who did not ban hunter and won the tournaments with Shaman and against Hunters... So it goes both ways...
I called it earlier in this thread; I said hunters didn't need a nerf, but they would get one because people are crying too loud for it. Blizzard can always come up with a reason later, after all, right?
The draw engine of hunters is too much, but not the one Rogues use with auctioneer? Got it....
So, who stands to gain from hunters being removed from the ladder? What deck will likely rise as a result? Shaman possibly; they've always had a weakness against unleash combos.
If it's not hunters, it's fucking cancer rogues, or plunder warriors, or gimmick inner fire priests, or zoo. There will always be a stupid mindless go face deck out there.
"Blizzard is just a small indie game company" -Mathmachine
Every deck goes face at one time or another, its how you win. Stop them from going face and they will lose.
All the Hunters will switch Zoo/Token Druid again. Just like what happened after the UtH nerf.
lol yes and wizards of the coast bans cards cus people cry too loud as well. Seriously wake up they have a group of players who give feed back on the current state of the meta and new decks that pop up. As I posted before in this same forum the hunter decks that are going around meet 3 of 5 reasons why it needed to be nerfed.
I've given plenty examples of what is able to counter hunter, and those are facts. I've also stated in multiple threads that I agree with people suggestioning that hunter is quite powerful, but what I've disagreed with was their proposals on how to fix/balance hunter. Blizzard completely killing a card, making it borderline unplayable (which I could be wrong on this, time will tell) was not optimal.
Most people have played blizzard games for quite some time now and they should know that a lot of there nerfs end up being on the extreme end and tha's what I wanted to avoid. I would have rather seen something that controlled the amount of card draw rather than dictating a minimal mana requirement for hunters to potentially go wild on card draw.