[Legend Top 100] Meta Crusher C'Thun Warrior 85...
- Last updated Dec 19, 2016 (Gadgetzan)
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Wild
- 17 Minions
- 11 Spells
- 2 Weapons
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Control Warrior
- Crafting Cost: 12680
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 10/21/2016 (Yogg Nerf)
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Thank you all for making this deck list to Front page! (^_^)
December - Updated C'thun list to hit Legend for the month of December. Check it out!
November - Want to share another deck I've climbed from rank 5 to 3 with a 71% win rate. Check it out!
Hit Legend from rank 2 using this deck without Harrison. 13-3 record.
Oct. 31 - Made Top 100 again. Added video replays against Purple and Fibonacci
Oct. 28 - Made Top 100
Oct. 27 - Trying to get top 100 with the deck but I don't have a lot of free time to play. Currently stuck at rank 104.
Oct. 26 - Lost a game to maly druid and totemic might shaman. Won a few games including this one against a friend. Talk about Antonidas value, I survived 6 fireballs and additional burn spells. Replay here
Deck record - 18:3 to Legend - 9:0 at Legend
Oct. 25 - Posting two more replays. Unfortunate lost due to computer crashing while i try to record with new software. Lost turn 5 which was critical which eventually led to lost.
Second replay was against Legend rank 2 player so check that out!
Currently testing -1 acoltye +1 Harrison
- Played another 2 more games. won and currently rank 128
Oct. 24 - Played two more games and won both. Rank 167 Legend. Videos of game play hitting Top 200 Legend are in description below.
Oct. 23 - Added more replays at L rank, started a mulligan/strategy section and substitution section.
Currently undefeated with the deck (4-0) at Legend rank, hovering rank 230.
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Hi,
I'm Danny and is a regular Legend player, hitting Legend every season. With the rise and dominance of Mid range Shaman, I wanted to create a deck to counter it instead of joining the dark side. Shaman doesn't have much counters and even freeze mage is only 5% favored against it. To counter Shaman, you really have to tech in cards against them. I wanted to create a deck that's good against shaman and still holds a good to fair win rate against other decks. I have played around with other classes but finalize on C'thun warrior with two Tech cards, Revenge and Baron Geddon. There's another tech card worth considering which is Harrison Jones but I can talk more about it later.
My stats were 18-3 hitting Legend with two losses where one game was due to unlucky draws and another to unlucky Rng. I believe i should've won those two games, leading to an even higher win rate. I have replays for all my games so I'll try to post some or all later if there's enough interest.
I entered Legend at rank 381 as shown below.
Replays against Shaman
1) https://hsreplay.net/replay/xqUfWt5ZMaVG8CtEvYXqrQ
2) https://hsreplay.net/replay/otXFnBZ7sJzwp5cNyqxF4G
3) https://hsreplay.net/replay/Shbhsba4gcUYsc623crM2T
4) https://hsreplay.net/replay/UAmLEXJw7g4jmGnyi9B2KW
5) https://hsreplay.net/replay/QqyEFbcZifvtnj46Eyw3Dg
6) https://hsreplay.net/replay/u3cUnsQxgmcfhxgbxf4KhG
Last two games were against same opponent back to back
Use and time your board clears carefully as Shamans can refill the board the next turn very easily. I also used my health as a resource as Shamans don't have the burst they used to.
Replays at Legend Rank
1) Against Maly Druid - https://hsreplay.net/replay/s5PP6sRnSgouQAgV2nQEML
- He did not know what to do against me and forced to concede.
2) Against Shaman - uploaded Oct. 22 - https://hsreplay.net/replay/rkVZGtHnBVPzA9MvJitkUS
3) Against Dragon Priest - https://hsreplay.net/replay/j4zWceeBqhPRrYXdMdFc8E
4) Control Priest - https://hsreplay.net/replay/39t9GXAQGAY5kBxXKoiipY
- Toughest match so far in Legend. Not knowing what type of cards he's running, and his sylvannas surviving two brawls gave little hope in winning. Watch and analyze the plays in the last 15 turns. I recommend pausing before I make my plays and see if you'll do the same. Timing when to play the cards was very critical here.
5) Tempo Mage - Surviving 6 fireballs and more
6) Lost to Maly Druid but look at his start with innervate and ramp.
7) Lost to Totemic Might Shaman - Apparently revenge and baron geddon are not good against 4 health totems.
8) Shaman
9) More Shaman - Where playing aggressive shaman doesn't pay off.
Video Game Play at Legend Rank
2) C'Thun Warrior vs Shaman Top 200 gameplay
3) Vs. Rogue - My computer crashed, losing turn 5 to rope. Part 1 - Part 2
5) Vs. Warrior
6) Vs. Shaman
7) Vs. Purple
8) Vs. Fibonacci Part 1------------- Part 2
Strategy and Mulligan
Shaman -
A) Fiery War Axe
B) Disciple of C'thun, Ravaging Ghoul. Keep 1 without the coin. Both if you have the coin or have War Axe.
C) Keep Slam if you have any of the above cards.
With these cards, you should be able to challenge any early game cards shaman throws at you.
Control early threats from Shaman and prevent them from snowballing. Do not waste premium removals (Shield slam & Exe) on weak minions unless it provides a huge tempo swing. I usually use shield slam & Execute only on thing from belows, fire elementals, or thunderbluffs. Thing from below and Fire ele can be dealt without premium removals since they have 5 health BUT Thunderbluff is more difficult. I usually save one premium removal in hand for thunderbluff. Use your AOE and boar clears wisely. Don't use them on 3 or 4 minions/totems that are not causing much threat. If you are not close to dying, taking 4-5 damage from their minions/totems is fine. Bait out their big guys.
The faster(aggressive) they play, the better my odds in winning because they play into the board clears. They are more dangerous when they slow play and into fatigue.
Against aggro - Control their early flood of minions with removal and aoes. They will run out of resources and you win.
Against control- play the fatigue war, armor up and outlast outlast them. Be conservative with your C'thun against priest/warrior. Usually, don't play it unless you can lethal them or you need to prevent their lethal on board.
Against CW - Play the fatigue game. don't draw cards. save harrison for gorehowl only. Sometimes i don't even play harrison to minimize the one draw. Play C'thun for final blow (when both players are in fatigue and you're c'thun + their next fatigue damage will kill them).
Difficult Match ups
Midrange Hunter and Control Warrior.
Against Control Warrior, you will need to sub in Harrison for their gorehowl and maybe doomcaller. This will make the deck weak against other archetypes (shamans) so I don't recommend it unless you are facing a lot of warrior.
Midrange Hunter has always been a bad match up for Control warriors. At least there's only one call of the wild these days.
Substitutions
Revenge or Barron Geddon can be subbed by Harrison Jones
If you have questions/comments, write it below and I'll try to answer them.
With enough likes or +
- I'll create a more thorough discussion about playing the deck and against classes.
- Post more replays
- Discussion about tech cards
- Video game play or discussion
Also, as you noticed, this is not a super unique deck list as C'Thun warrior have been around.
Thanks for stopping by.
Players hitting Legend with this deck. Let me know if I miss someone (msg me).
1) matimana
2) futhead_ezah82290
3) ocktvan
4) luskyerz
5) futhead_MORELAS
6) ACIDTorak
Can't get out of rank 18 with this...gets totally trashed by the 4th paladin warrior I encounter. Possibly due to bad draws as well (had Cthun in starting hand every time), but I just run out of solutions by the end. Any advice maybe?
Can't really help much if you consistently have bad draws.
You can try my new list below for a better curve and faster archetype. it's dragon warrior.
Hey Guys,
I would like to share the deck I've been playing the past few days from rank 5 to 3. It has a good win rate and doing exceptionally well against Shamans as I like to crush them. Check it out for a change in pace and comment/question there. Thanks!
Any replacements for Baron Geddon?
Also, Harrison is essencial? Maybe a becokner is worth to activate shieldbearer and vek'lor
What do you think?
you will need either baron or harrison for a consistent chance of beating Shamans. you can replace either one with beckoner or acoltye of pain.
Thanks!
Every card in the deck have a specific role and swapping certain cards out will affect different match ups. This deck was originally created to crush the meta (mostly shaman) and it wasn't meant to beat CW mirrors, although I have a positive win rate against them. If you take out both worshippers but doesn't replace them with c'thun activators, you won't consistently be able to activate your shieldbearer and twin emperor. Also, your substitution will make the deck weaker to a lot of other match ups that are more popular in the meta. The deck can't do it all. No deck can beat aggro, midrange, and control consistently. Shaman is the closest to it.
Hey uhm, read the info and you said revenge could be replaced by harrison jones, he's already in the deck? did I just understand you wrong? if not, what would be a replacement for him, don't feel like grinding 3 more wings just for 1 card. looks like a solid deck, and after playing against totem shaman for freaking 12 matches in a row it has begun to get kinda annoying. thanks in advance!
harrison was the replacement in the original deck before i added him permanently. You can sub revenge for acolyte of pain or beckoner of evil.
is there a reason why I can't see this deck in my favorites list even though I "hearted" it?
I'm not sure. I didn't even know there's a heart button. Try asking or messaging a mod.
absolute super garbage - no late game at all. Elise is mandatory in such decks. unplayable on EU sorry
Yet, I beat other control warriors who played elise in their deck. Even Fibonacci lost to me in a control warrior match. Do you even understand what this deck is trying to accomplish and the match ups? You go around different decks on hearthpwn saying the same thing that they're unplayable. How about you work more on your skill and stop blaming decks.
any subs for crazed worshipper? Only card im personally missing!
beckoner of evil
I have such a bad rng that i can't play this deck.. lost 4 in a row because of my card draw Kappa
I only play when i have good rng. kappa :)
What about Gorehowl and bash?
bash is more for the classic control warrior. gorehowl doesn't get as much value unless it's against a control match up. Also too late of a card against aggro or midrange. You're taking more damage from gore howl when your opponent is already racing to kill you.
Win streak from rank 10 to 5 using secret deck with 11 straight wins. overall 19-2 from rank 11 to 5. Some of the wins were more about capitalizing from opponent's misplays rather than the deck itself. You can't imagine how many misplays i encounter from my opponent even at single digit ranks this time of the month.
Everyone misplays and there's plenty of room to grow and learn. Don't think you're playing perfectly and that your lost is 100% due to rng or the deck.