[TGT] Seraph's Dragon Shaman (inc. Video Guide!)
- Last updated Sep 11, 2015 (TGT Launch)
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Wild
- 13 Minions
- 17 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Unknown
- Crafting Cost: 8940
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 9/9/2015 (TGT Launch)
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Region:
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Total Deck Rating
2046
Intro
Where Totem Shaman has so far failed to deliver, a number of new neutral and class cards in TGT have made Dragon Shaman viable to the extent that I feel this deck is the most viable Shaman deck currently. The main caveat is that it has a very high skill cap, dicing with death, requiring a fair bit of spell power math and making spectacular tempo swings. The result is a challenging but very fun, rewarding and competitive deck.
The deck uses Healing Wave and Twilight Guardians to stall into the midgame, before a pivotal turn in which you simultaneously clear the opponent's board with AoE, heal to full or near full health, drop minions and clear your overload the same or following turn.
From that point onward you are facing decks that are usually running out of steam while you drop powerful late game minions like Ysera and Malygos, and against control decks you have all the strong class cards that Shaman has had since launch that make it a great match up against decks like Control Warrior.
This is not a SMOrc deck, it has a pretty high skill cap as you need to get a feel for how low you can drop your HP before making your big tempo swings, how to manage your overload and how to mitigate RNG. You play very close to the wire and if you don't get it exactly right then you'll appear to crash and burn. However the difficulty in playing this deck is also part of what makes it so much fun! Once you have mastered it you can swing games your opponent thought were easy wins for them into spectacular wins for yourself!
Matchups
This deck is strong against Control Warrior, Patron Warrior, Control Paladin, Handlock. It is strong against Face Hunter and Secret Paladin if you draw your AoE and Healing Wave. It is less good against Power of the Wild Druid and Dragon Priest as they tend to buff their minions out of AoE range. It is about 50/50 vs. Combo Druid and very dependent on draws.
Strategy
vs. Aggro/Midrange
Against aggro decks you want to mulligan hard for your AoE, ideally Lightning Storm, and Healing Wave. Burn like Lightning Bolt and Earth Shock can also be useful. You can and should keep Twilight Guardian in your opening hand.
Against midrange, mulligan ideally for Elemental Destruction,Hex, Healing Wave and Twilight Guardian.
Against both of these decks your strategy is to bait out over-commitment from the opponent, stalling with taunts, controlling the board as necessary to survive using burn and Blackwing Corruptors/Fire Elementals, in order to orchestrate a swing turn in which you clear their board with Lightning Storm or Elemental Destruction, play minions such as reduced cost Volcanic Drake, heal using Healing Wave and clear your overload with Lava Shock, which may be used to pick off any remaining minion eg. the second half of a Piloted Shredder.
This turn can cost as little as 6 mana or more likely 8, so you goal until then is to stall the game until this point using your many control tools in order that you can orchestrate a complete tempo swing where you face an opponent who thought they were inevitably winning, now with board, card and health advantage.
Charged Hammer allows you to pick off straggling aggro minions for the rest of the game, useful against Secret Paladin and Face Hunter, and Lightning Jolt can help clear out midrange minions that survive AoE.
vs. Control
Against control decks your AoE is less likely to be so useful, however control Shaman has always been strong against other control decks thanks to cards like Hex and burn spells. Your win condition is to outvalue your opponent over the long game and still do what you can to bait out multiple minions that you can clear in a single turn.
Win Conditions
You have two win conditions against all archetypes. Primarily this is to simply outvalue your opponent over the long game, the second is to discount the mana cost of your burn spells for use with Malygos. One tick from Emperor Thaurissan onMalygos, Lightning Bolt, Frost Shock and Lava Shock allows you to deal 21 damage through taunt on turn 9.
Important Principles
This is a deck that if not played exactly right will crash and burn, but is very strong when you are experienced in the following principles:
Life Total
In the early game, particularly against aggro decks, your goal is to bait out as much over-extension from the opponent as possible before clearing their board and healing. It can be tempting to AoE too early to protect your health, for example against a Paladin who has played a Knife Juggler and Minibot but before the Muster you know is coming. If a Juggler hits you twice, a Minibot once and Muster deals 4 damage to your face you've still only taken 12 damage, and against an aggro deck Healing Wave will basically always heal you for 14. You should instead focus on popping the divine shield, baiting out more minions then clearing them in one go before casting Healing Wave.
On the other hand once you have had some success this way, you may feel tempted to push your life total too close to the edge. Always try to predict what your opponent is likely to be playing the next turn. Imagine you're at 18hp a Tempo Mage board may look to do only 10 damage next turn, you might think not even a Fireboat can kill you, but don't forget the 2 damage from a Flamewalker. If there's a possibility that you could die next turn to a card likely to be in hand then clear the board now, Elemental Destruction is no good when you're dead.
Right Removal, Right Time
It can be tempting to use Lava Shock in the early game to take out something like a Knife Juggler, but when you can afford to take 14+ damage in the first few turns provided you draw Healing Wave, that is much better saved for when it can get you value on your Overload.
Using the right removal at the right time, and mulligan for the right removal against different classes, is essential. Against a Druid you can expect a Darnassus Aspirant but you're not going to see a Mad Scientist, so keep Lightning Shock in your opening hand, and discard Earth Shock.
Choosing which burn to use and when and when to use your Hexes requires constantly thinking multiple turns ahead and calculating what you can do with spell power. If you don't do this and just fire away whenever you can then you will run out of steam.
Also, never forget the Malygos + Earth Shock combo again cards like Tirion and Sylvannas!
Preparing for AoE
A common question I've seen is what about Divine Shield and Deathrattle, doesn't that screw up your tempo switch? It does and that's why you want to use your other tools to ready the enemy board for AoE down the line, rather than focusing on removing potential face damage. For example if you're facing a Darnassus Aspirant, a Shredder and a Keeper of the Grove, calculate: can Savage Roar kill you? If not yet, then you don't need to use your Lightning Bolt on the Aspirant. Pop the Shredder so that the next turn you can take everything out in one go before healing back up.
Key Plays
Tempo Switch
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Malygos Finishers
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Card Discussion
Charged Hammer
Charged Hammer may be expensive but against aggro but being able to take the game slowly means that it can still be useful against aggro whilst turning your hero power into a more effective control tool as the game progresses.
Nexus-Champion Saraad
The cost of multiple board clears and direct target removal can sometimes be running low on cards even once you have gained tempo and board control. This is where cards likeYsera, and Inspire cards like Saraad come in useful. Spells tend to be control cards or finishers and so most will benefit a slow deck such as this, and can pair well withMalygos.
This is nevertheless a tech spot and can be replaced with other Inspire mana sinks, an additional Fire Elemental, Sludge Belcher or more early removal such as Stormforged Axe, and The Mistcaller depending on the meta.
Elemental Destruction
You don't run any early game minions in this deck so by the time the midgame comes around you should be able to effectively clear the enemy board without harming your own, and ideally recover your mana crystals with Lava Shock. If your can get value out of your Lava Shock, this is such a high value tempo swing it simply looks broken. If you don't have Lava Shock try to drop a minion following this spell. After using this, Volcanic Drake will often be very cheap or free and can be dropped then in most cases.
Depending on the meta you may run two of these, or substitute a Lightning Storm for an additional Elemental Destruction.
Volcanic Drake
Valuable as another Dragon activator and as a tempo play following a board clear, whether you run one or two is up to you but without running two Lightning Storm and two Elemental Destruction it is less likely to be worth it as a two of.
Stormforged Axe
Failing to draw Healing Wave, Twilight Guardians and your AoE can result in some games being uncontrollable against all in aggro decks. If you are facing many of these, a single Stormforged Axe can increase your potential to hold off the early game before your big tempo swings later on.
Chromaggus
If you don't have Nexus-Champion Saraad or Ysera, Chromaggus is a possible replacement. I favour the former two because the first provides a sink for your excess mana in the late game and the latter gives you overpowered cards, but your deck is full of strong control cards that are pretty broken when duplicated so this guy is a very reasonable alternative to either.
Very excited to see how this deck plays! Elemental Destruction is a card I've been eyeing since TGT came out and looks like it could be very powerful if used correctly. Love the creativity shown here! New deck types and off meta strategies are too much fun.
Also, brilliant right up and guide. It looks good and is both well thought out, and easy to read. Thumbs up!
I like the idea of this deck. It's really magnificent. I have played some matches and I have been shocked after recognizing how are good new cards. Respect for bravery because you're not afraid to test something new, something incredible, which are grow out of meta.
would alexaridria work instead of mayglos?
It's a very different card, but yes, it could work. It puts more of your focus on beating your opponent down through taunts. If you drop Malygos, then the two Lightning Bolts are possibly not the best use of the deck slots. Part of their value is their ability to combo with Malygos for 16 face damage. Nefarian would be another large dragon to consider, if you find that Alexstrasza is too often not optimal, given your opponent's health or yours.
Well the issue i have with the deck is a small one. 'i don't like malygos in this deck to begin with. I think this deck is far better as a control deck where having malygos issues it more to the side of a combo deck. Double lightning bolt is imperative regardless it's your only form of early removal. It's hard to keep a lightning bolt in hand vs tempo decks you need to remove things and do it quickly. If this deck had a little more burn so you didn't have to use it for control of the board i'd support malygos more. However the deck feels like it's better at massive swing turns and locking down the board rather than bursting people to death.
Rank 4 currently, haven't made a push for legend yet but 6-0 right now, the deck more than works. Have you even tried it? Maybe if you do you will be less surprised that people are laddering with it.
Like I said the videos weren't the best example but they were two examples of beating two popular classes, one aggro one combo. If you read what I've written you will see what I have found in regards to mulligans and aggro.
It is better to read briefly then try yourself and just remember that the deck takes some time to master.
Also I'm not sure what luck you are referring to. Drawing Healing Wave? There is about 80% chance of drawing it by the time I did vs the Hunter. If you look at any game of Hearthstone you can say that every single card drawn is either lucky or unlucky.
I dont know, but I often think too that malygos deck's can't work that good on ladder. I have a Malyrogue too and it is really nice, a friend reached legend with it, but I always think "Malygos is a fun deck, not competitive!", but actually they are. I dont know why...
You wrote an entire guide based on winning 6 matches with a deck? People are going to be understandably confused. When people ask winrates they are looking for something around 80 or 100:p You can literally go 6-0 with any deck
I lost to this deck, but it was definetly not because of the deck, it was complete RNG. The deck was hardly incosistent, but with 12 cards left in my deck I had a 50% chance to draw lethal,, means 6 card could have killed the enemy. until I had 7 cards left i haven't drawn any of this cards (f.e. Al'akir, even a Rockbiter Weapon, was playing Midrange shaman, too). Means almost had lethal the whole way, even though my enemy won BOTH Joust for Healing wave and healed for 42 fucking damage with two Healbots (not exactly this deck though, but the same idea). Means I did 65 damage the whole game and if he had lost one Healing Wave Joust he would have been ripped apart.
Where did I say that I have only won 6 matches?
Where did I give any win rates for this deck?
Go look through your responses. Dude, you are super sensitive
I mentioned only that I had been on a win streak at rank 4 as an indication that the deck is effective for laddering. I don't even think the semantics of that need explaining, it's self evident.
Bare in my that deck building and guide writing is a time consuming process, and consider the difference between constructive feedback based on experience with the deck, and what you posted. Feel free to post the former.
Agreed. It's 1 of those decks that are hard to play, but once you get over the high skill cap, it wins beautifully. It's like freeze mage in that sense. Freeze Mage was a hard deck to play but once you got the hang of it, each win is satisfying. In the beginning, you will get your ass kicked since you're not sure of the combos and what not. That's what happened to me, but then I got used to it.
No, I really don't need to. I was commenting on you being a dick to people. I don't need to try this deck to point that out. And after your shit attitude I doubt I'd try your deck even if it didn't look like hot garbage. Nobody owes you shit.
yeah nice troll deck. thats about it. loatheb or anything else ruins this deck. nice to see a new take on shaman, but its not consistent enough.
yeah nice troll post. thats about it. experience or anything else ruins this post. nice to see a new take on shitposting, but it's not accurate enough.
Lol Guess you'd call freeze mage a troll deck since Loatheb can lock them out of entire turns right?
I only have one ED. What is a good replacement?
Hard to replace ED, it's probably the most important card in the deck alongside Healing Wave. I feel reluctant to suggest an alternative because board clears serve a specific purpose and ED provides a board clear larger than both Lightning Storm and Chillmaw, so there isn't really a like for like replacement.
Some have claimed success running a Charged Hammer in place of a missing ED, using Lightning Jolt to soften targets for removal with Lightning Storm.