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Rank 19 deck. Front page of Hearthpwn. Sounds about right.

I hate the direction Hearthstone has taken Rogue. "Steal spells"? That's not even a thing for rogue in World of Warcraft.

Rogue is about combo attacks, and bleeding out the enemy. Attacking from stealth, from the shadows. Destroying things. 

Where is Slice and Dice? Ambush? Shadow dance? Shadow strike? Marked for Death? Rupture? Garrote.. 

I know the developers think they are making a cute "Whimsical" game for all ages.. Warcraft is very whimsical, but its also a shade of every characteristic you can think of! There is nothing Whimsical about a ruthless, assassin who kills lol. 

So please, end this spell stealing garbage and make rogue great again. Hard removals, heavy dmg burst, combos combos.

Lack of card draw, too RNG with Reno concept, and the fact that when your hero turns to Rag (8HP) , said hero will probs die next turn via late game finishes.

Also this deck couldn't handle most aggro currently let alone what's to come.

Obviously everyone and their mother thought up the "Majo + Awaken the Makers" when the Un'Goro video came out. You just threw together a half ass reno deck and called it your theory

Such is the nature of Hearthpwn.com

It's not a viable deck, esp in wild format.

Comparing MTG with Hearthstone?

That's like comparing Go Fish to Poker.

MTG has been around for decades, has way more mechanics and fluctuations during gameplay then HS. 

One can survive from their opponent "taking another turn after this one", in MTG, because most likely, the largest minion is a 6/6 or under on the battlefield, and it's easier to slow aggro in MTG.

Hearthstone and MTG are very different. That's why their will never be "take another turn after this one" type cards. If there ever is, peace HS. 

Have fun in standard :/

Every class has it's annoying mechanic. 

Get over it, and play the one bothering you so much.

You may find a new found-respect.

Thanks for correcting, of my misunderstanding.

When i typed that, i also had in mind the new meta that will emerge with the new expansion. There will be different synergy in cards old and new, combos, strategies.. hopefully as a new expansion those combos and new cards are more powerful then earlier prints.

The point though, the meta will change for sure, but how, no one can say for sure. Will the older-classics be as viable as current? I'm excited to find out!

Cheers

Holy shit are you kidding me?  Rogue is my favorite class for exactly the OPPOSITE reason.  Even though its strongest iteration right now revolves around MIracle Rogue, I think the class has some of the most interesting and unique cards. 

Shadowcaster - Probably the #1 reason I love Rogue!  I don't care if it's not competitive, I will play the shit out of Brann + double Shadowcaster all day.  This card allows for really interesting combos.

SI:7 Agent - probably the strongest 2-drop in the game ;)

Unearthed Raptor - no other card can do this, and its a solid 3 drop. 

Shaku, the Collector, Undercity Huckster, Burgle, Ethereal Peddler - maybe not competitively viable yet but these cards are extremely fun, and this mechanic is unique to Rogue (I thought you said Rogue was boring??)

Backstab, Preparation, Shadow Strike, etc etc - some of the coolest and most flexible spells in the game. 

I truly don't know how you can consider this class boring.

T1 Innervate, Innervate, Southsea Deckhand into Patches, Barnes into Y'Shaarj into Deathwing.

Attack for 1.

T2 Coin, Savage Roar

Attack for 31.

Best I could come up with in Standard, without relying on opponents playing cards like Millhouse.

What are some fast lethals possible in HS?  I remember shaman had fast lethals with whirling zapomatic back in the day.

That said just got a turn 3 lethal vs pirate warrior (feelsgoodman,) this may perhaps be the perfect draw for rogue to t3 lethal come this expansion.

"INSANELY TERRIBLE PLAYER."

Then don't use it?
Personally I'm just gonna call it Whispers.

I'll be that guy.  You've merged Kolento's deck with the other recently popular deck "Evil Elise Priest".  At some point, you can just say, "I teched some cards out of *insert previously popular deck* and I think it works better."  I know that all decks are basically tweaked versions of other decks, it just gets annoying to see 3 of the same deck on the Priest front page.  That said, I'll try this hybrid deck.

Kolento's
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/431403-s23-kolento-2-legend-elise-priest

Evil Elise Priest:
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/434581-evil-elise-priest-new

Kripp suggested just "damaging a minion" with 7 or more health.

Like, "deal 5 damage to a minion with 7 or more health"

This way, it is still powerful as it would still kill 7/4s and 7/5s, but it would not kill 8/5+ health like giants in one shot.

I say, nerf the stats, like a (5) mana 3/3 like Ram Wrangler would be better, or even a (4) mana 2/2 would be okay. If not removed, a 4/2 can do some damage or get in a good trade. No need for it to have 4 power being that the effect is so good.

Also, I would like to have a 1 time only thing. After that we do know that a format like this exists. So my decision has all the information avalaible. This change is unheard of and while I agree that they only full refund on balance changes, this fits this category as well. They change how the game and the expansion system works dramatically!

I really don't get the "OMG Wild Mode will be batshit broken" whining that has taken over the Internet. Everyone, calm the fuck down. Now.

Wild mode will be exactly like the Hearthstone you currently play, just with a bigger card pool. There are a bit under 750 cards now. Every year, up to 250 cards will get added to that pool. Standard will stay around 750 cards, but by the end of 2018, Wild will be somewhere near twice the size at 1500 cards. Those are simple facts.

However, there are a few factors that keep the crazy in check:

- Your deck can only ever include 30 cards. So really, all you need to be competitive is 30 cards in your collection, as long as those 30 cards form a tier 1 deck. Now, you may want more cards because a big collection is fun, but to climb to top 1 legend, 30 cards is what you need.

- No matter how many cards there are, no matter the format, there will always be stronger and weaker decks. Standard will have a Top 20 of competitive decks, Wild will have a Top 20 of competitive decks. Hell, each tavern brawl will have its own collection of Top 20 decks.

- That ranking is relative. The Wild decks will be stronger in comparison to standard, because they draw from a bigger card pool, but they will not be stronger in comparison to each other.

- As with any MtG-like TCG, there will still be a balance of Aggro, Midrange, Control and Combo. There will be no single dominant deck in Wild. Because of the above, every deck will have a natural counter.

- Even if there is a batshit broken combo that ruins standard, this will be less relevant in wild, because (1) the bigger card pool will mean more options to counter that combo. The combo will also have to be more batshit broken to dominate Wild because it will have to beat stronger decks. A deck that has a good win rate against Secret Pally, Midrange Druid and Zoo as they are now is likely to be strong and adaptable enough to compete with most Wild meta decks for the next two years.

- Dimnishing marginal returns. The more cards there already are, the more likely a new card will just replicate something that another card already does. The effect of every new expansion will be like Naxx for Standard (big impact), but like TGT for Wild (half a dozen relevant cards). Because cards get dumped into a smaller pool for standard, they are quite likely to shake up the meta, whereas in Wild, they need to really create a new devastating synergy or combo to really shake things up. More likely, Wild will be pretty stable, with only a small fraction of each new expansion earning a permanent spot in the meta. The difference will be small at first, but it will get more noticeable as the Wild card pool grows.

If you are reading this right now, most likely Wild is the mode for you. Why? Because you have been playing Hearthstone (more or less) from the start, and you have the relevant Naxx and GvG cards. As the game progresses, you'll keep up with your collection so you'll always have enough cards to compete in Wild.

So if Wild is so great, what's standard for? Two groups.

- The Top 100 competitive players. Those who care about Blizzcon points. You think you can be the next Firebat? Play the hell out of standard. For e-sports, it makes sense to have a smaller, controlled card pool, because it's easier on casual viewers, commentators, and the players themselves. It will also naturally rotate out cards that turned out to be too "e-sports" for e-sports. Expect fewer cards like Ram Wrangler going forward.

- New players. You may not notice it, but games like Hearthstone have a huge player turnover. A new player who starts in 2016 will only have to collect the smaller card pool that is relevant for current standard. This is important. If HS doesn't have a mechanism like that, it will slowly bleed out as older players leave and new players get overwhelmed and stop. Having a standard ladder is a good thing. It just doesn't have to be relevant to you.