Quote from erzascarlet420 »To all the hunter in this thread: you might have so low image of yourself in the mirror for polluting the ladder, and of course, GGWP to all the golden huntard heros, you are just too smart for rest of ladder.
It's Headed for Legend. Not a salty post. Go away. Hunter is fine to play on the ladder. You, on the other hand, have a problem dealing with this extremely balanced class.
SMOrc every turn
much balanced much skill
To be honest hunter is the easiest class in the game
That's your opinion.
In fact, Hunter has seen a good amount of nerfs to make it quite a balance class. Your opinion may be that Hunter is ''easy'' but I do have the feeling that you are not a skillful player to display this kind of thought on a forum. Believing that Hunter is all about ''hitting the face every turn'' is quite foolish. Even Face Hunter requires more skills then this display of the actual deck. But I guess you are comfortable in your illusional world. I'll leave you there.
That's not his opinion, that's a fact. Everyone knows it, but there are the people who lie to themselves because they don't want to be ashamed for playing it. The problem is not with hunter. It's with this abusive playerpool who just want to reach high ranks without any skill.
I agree that Hunter takes some skill and not totally skill-less. The people who recklessly plays hunter will win but max out at rank 7 or 8 and not get past it because of their repetitive misplays. A skill face hunter player will take it to Legend.
Also want to point out an article on Tempostorm that address the skill of hunter.
Key points:
- Hunter's game ends in less turns so every turn is critical and the best plays have to be made or lose.
- Hunter is very linear, attack and be aggressive. But opponent (using control deck or midrange) playing against hunter is also very linear, defend and survive. Not much choices on both sides.
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I'm here actually to recover from salt due to the motherfugging Thief
Anduin should be jailed or rehabilitated I swear that freaking klepto
Twilight Drake a 4/10? Shrink+Cabal baby
Sludge Belcher? Shadow Goodness, thanks for the Slime
second Sludge Belcher? Shrink+Cabal number 2 cuz why not?
Taunt up a Thaurissan so you won't die and set up for the next turn lethal? MIND CONTROL LETHAL101 BM WITH LIGHT SHALL BURN YOU AND LESSER HEAL TO FACE MLG SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY PROPHET VELEN ANIMATION ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED
BRING YOUR OWN STUFF AND DONT TAKE MINE YOU SUN ON A BEACH
/rant
Yeah Mill is pretty annoying too, especially when you burn more than 2 cards in a row.
Freeze is not really that annoying IMO unless it came from Frost Elemental in arena because they summon a 5/5 that you can't deal with. Besides, silencing a frozen minion for the lethal is so satisfying
Combos are not even annoying in the slightest, because they need a lot of stuff to execute combos, and disruption is always the key to fight them off
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Millhouse Manastorm is a solid choice in this Zoo-heavy meta because they rarely run spells, and the 4/4 body trades really well with Imp Gang Boss and even Nerubian. However, if you're facing too much Tempo Mage, you could craft Lorewalker Cho instead. Instant GG if you craft both and place them on the board by Turn 4. I could also recommend Nozdormu if you are facing many Control decks and Combo decks like Patron Warrior and Oil Rogue. Hemet Nesingwary is also a decent choice, especially because everyone and their mothers are running Haunted Creeper. This card becomes insane in removing big threats if paired with Tinkmaster Overspark.
And in case you haven't noticed that I was kidding in the last paragraph (hopefully you did), I actually recommend Dr. Boom because his board presence puts a lot of pressure against all deck archetypes. Sylvanas Windrunner is good in control-ish decks, (especially your Priest deck), but she's kinda slow in the current meta, so I'd recommend the Doctor first.
And I envy you for your Tirion Fordring (best legendary in the game IMO)
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I just opened Malygos yesterday and immediately jumped on to this idea of Maly-lock, and so far it's been great
I just had a few problems: one, I haven't completed BRM, so I don't have Corruptors. Are they necessary? I rarely have a dragon in hand before Malygos so I don't know.
Second, I don't have a BGH. I replaced one with Siphon Soul, but howabout the second? I currently run Dr. Boom and Sylvanas in my missing cards, but idk if they're good.
Thoughts? +1 on this great deck!
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Okay, long post ahead. And if anyone feels insulted, I apologize in advance.
First, shout-out to all moderators to please compile all the Hunter salt threads into one because it's everywhere on the site. It's becoming unhealthy for the website, especially for new players, because they see Hunter hate everywhere. Due to the conforming behavior of human nature, the biased dogma that playing the Hunter class takes no skill (more on this later, in case you're hovering on the Quote button ready to argue without reading the whole post) could poison the minds of novices to this game, and they'll develop unnecessary hatred for the class indirectly because of consulting this website. No, I am not questioning the site; actually, when I started playing Hearthstone last December, a friend who was playing since beta suggested for me to come here, and I absolutely adore every feature. But if the plague of abhorrence for a misunderstood class continues to spread among the threads, then it could be seriously derogatory for the community as a whole. The Salt thread, sadly, does not contain the Hunter hatred from spreading. I have seen anti-Hunter posts from the Crafting Guide thread to the Paladin secrets thread, and it really bothers me.
Next, to OP (and to others, but I address OP mainly in the next sentence). First, thank you for putting constructive in the title to attempt to make this thread as calm as possible (although obviously, it did not work). But furthermore, I want to address something that bothered me ever since I opened this thread: the generalization of Hunter. As another person pointed out, there are lots of Hunter archetypes in existence, and although only a few are competitive (I used competitive because I believe that every deck is viable as long as it has 30 cards in it). These decks play differently, and generalizing them is just plain wrong. As an example, try replacing the Hunter in the questions with Mage. First question: Do you find mage class annoying/boring to play against? Um, there's Tempo Mage, Freeze Mage, Mech Mage, et cetera. How am I going to answer this without thinking of just one archetype? And to the people who are about to point out that the Hunter archetypes are not as diverse as the Mage ones, then I agree to an extent that the gray area is wider, yet the archetypes still have definite qualities to compare.
Next, to answer the questions (I suggest that people who vote do this as well to make this thread more constructive)
1. I have stated that you can't generalize the class as a whole, but I still vote no. First, because I play Hearthstone for fun and it's fun to play against all nine classes. Second, relatively, playing against other decks could be more boring/annoying, but it also depends on what decks you are playing yourself. For example, have anyone tried playing against Control Warrior as Control Priest? Boring at the beginning, and depending whether you get to Shrink+Cabal the Ysera, it's going to be annoying to either one. I'm not saying that it's not fun (it actually is, especially in the Cabal the Ysera part), but I just don't get why aggro match-ups are unappreciated like this. Yeah, playing against Face Hunter could be annoying, but only if they get insane starts boosted with insane draws. Topdecking a Kill Command also makes me so salty the Dead Sea pales in comparison, yet it's RNG. Topdecking has always been part of any card game, and even non-Hunter classes could topdeck into something worthwhile. And for the record, annoying and boring are not synonyms, so it's hard to answer.
2. Yes, because there's one more class to choose from. And frankly, the competitive Hunter decks are fairly cheap, especially if you can afford to buy even just the adventures. More class = more variety = more interest = more players.
3. Not really, but I want a new AoE to make Control Hunter competitive. So far, we have no board clear except Explosive Trap. Explosive Shot and Multi-shot could count, but they're not really AoEs. The most efficient one people are using is Knife Juggler+Unleash the Hounds, but it's not really something that you would classify as AoE; it's more of a combo play that could possibly be an AoE, like Warsong Commander+Grim Patron. It also won't hurt to have some more Beast synergies and some Feign Death synergies. But to balance a card? Nope, the cards are perfectly balanced. Underpowered, if I'm being really critical, but let's avoid some more flames.
4. It ruins the game in the sense that players hate it and they spread the hatred to their online communities. So, no.
(Disclaimer: I'm going to talk mainly about Face Hunter next in here.) Next point (and probably the most sensitive one) is the belief that aggro decks require less skill. I must say that I wholeheartedly agree. Surprised? Well, I have played both Face Hunter and Oil Rogue, and I must say that I make less misplays in Face Hunter because I have a definite goal, unlike Oil Rogue where I have to think about everything because one misplay might cost me the game. Yes, aggro decks are more forgiving of misplays than other decks, especially combo decks like Oil Rogue and Patron Warrior, but it's not as skill-less as people assume because as an aggro player, you always have to count the damage potential you have his turn, next turn, next next turn, and if the game is not yet over, the turn after that. I lost many Face Hunter games before because I played Creeper instead of Hero Power, causing me to be two damage off lethal next turn. Computing for your damage output every turn is a unique skill that Face Hunter requires (and Oil Rogue too, but their way is different) because they absolutely have no ways to snowball in board control. So to call it completely skill-less is moot. And you also have to think whether your opponent might have a board clear and removals and everything, just like any deck.
And the fact that they don't trade? Um, that's the point of the deck. Trading will almost always be unfavorable because it makes them lose steam. Face Hunter will of course trade with Knife Juggler or Flamewaker or Mechwarper because these cards could snowball out of control, or provide such a huge advantage in the damage race. Besides, their win condition is to distract you by putting in threat after threat and you have to react and react. And if you don't, you're dead. Does that sound familiar? Oh yes, Control Warrior has almost the same win condition, but instead of small minions, they instead use huge ones. It might be weak, but the connection is there. The difference is Control Warrior sustains first before threatening later. Face Hunter threatens now, and if you're still alive, sustain later.
And no interaction? They force you to make the trading if you don't want to lose. That's interaction. Besides, once you stabilize a little bit, Face Hunter would definitely trade as part of their "sustain till topdeck" mode, which is their desperation back-up plan. If you're mad that you're dead before you can react, then they had an amazing start unlike you, so just accept that RNG wasn't in your favor during that match. If you claim to play against a lot of Face Hunters, then you would see that some of these players have a turn 1 Abusive to turn 2 Hero Power to turn 3 Kill Command your Knife Juggler. It's RNG.
And last issue: the name-calling. "Cancer" Hunter, "Ebola" Paladin, Mech Mage-"tards". Will you people please stop doing that because it's not good at all? I had a grandfather who had cancer and it's not funny. Ebola is actually a serious issue and casually joking about that is very insensitive. Just, don't.
And here ends my two cents and two hours. I hope we can discuss this healthily in this constructive thread.
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yep, grom provides an alternate finisher for Grim Patron decks especially in control matchups. Good luck with making your CW then =))
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From being a maximum of 8/9, you turned it into a maximum 8/8. However, because it's damaged, the current health, which does not exceed the maximum, stays the same.
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A rational explanation to the turn 1 rope Chow is the possibility that the player disconnected or is lagging terribly. Please bear with us who have low bandwidths and/or crashing devices. Whenever this happens, I apologize to the opposing player to indicate that the roping was not intended.
The turn 3 rope into naked SI:7 is really valid because you have to think about whether you should play it naked, or pass the turn to get the value out of it later. I sometimes do this especially if I'm facing a control deck, and because I'm new to Oil Rogue, I have to consider every decision carefully and reconsider them after the game.
And Face Hunter haters, wrong thread
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I just hope that these new hero portraits (and possibly new hero powers) would be available for F2P players and not just purchasable using real money
HYPEEEE
and i'm calling Maraad or Liadrin for Paladin
then Medivh for Mage or Warlock (more likely the latter)
OR WILFRED FIZZLEBANG "Trifling gnome, your arrogance will be your undoing!"
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