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Yes, the numbers I posted above are assuming you dust each and every card you earn from buying adventures. Adventures can only be purchased once. If you are okay with dusting those cards, the order to buy is LOE, Karazhan, Naxx, BRM, then regular expansion packs (best dust/USD value to least)
Cards do not need to be duplicates in order to dust them. On PC, you can go to your collection, right click on any card and disenchant it for the same amount of dust you'd get for using "disenchant extra cards" button. A lot of people dust weak/boring cards in order to craft what they like. It's not good in the long term, but that's one popular style of collection management they use
For the above reason, if you want to buy expansion packs, you should buy ones that you have the least of. This way, you have a greater chance of opening new and useful cards, while you still have the choice of dusting anything you don't like. You can even try buying some MSG packs in case you get lucky and open golden Kazakus or Raza normally
One last thing ... I like fancy meme cards as much as the next guy (Golden Archbishop Benedictus is still in my collection from a craft in the Razakus days) but in my opinion, "boring" cards are necessary in order to facilitate (drawing, surviving, keeping up on tempo, etc) the playing of fun cards and interactions more consistently. Even some of the non-legendary cards from adventures can be useful
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This is disgustingly lazy design. Deal 5 to the opponent shouldn't be a thing because priest doesn't go face? Let's make it heal and target your own face instead!
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Wow, for just 5 more mana, I can now run a 3rd copy of savage roar that deals 2 less damage in my token druid! The value! /s
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If you're looking to spend money, the best value is generally to wait for pre-purchases and limited time bundles (like the master bundle and Toki's bundle that are currently running). They are almost always the best deal when compared to buying packs normally
Keep buying these long enough, and you'll eventually be able to "break even" with the expansion cycle (have enough dust/gold to have a reasonable number of non-golden meta decks at all times). Once you do that, only buying pre-purchases + daily quests are more than enough to keep you afloat
If you do not want to wait for the sales bundles and only care about dust, then here are the quick mafs on the best dust/USD value :
Keep in mind that this is all assuming that you'll dust everything you'll open. As you can see, buying and dusting the adventures are the best bang for your buck. However, note that adventure cards can only be obtained through crafting or doing the adventure the first time. Once you dust your purchased cards, you won't ever be granted them again. This can severely cripple your ability to play in wild, so I do not recommend it personally, especially if you are dusting them to make other wild cards
On the bright side, you don't need to worry about already having some of the adventure cards. If you have a golden Brann and buy LOE, you'll end up with one golden Brann and a plain one that you can dust at your leisure. If you have a Thaurissan and buy BRM, you'll end up with two Thaurissans
For expansions, the 60-pack orders are the best deal as far as regular purchases go. The bigger the bundle, the better the value. If you have not purchased any of the wild packs with money since they implemented the "first 10 packs opened of any expansion guarantees a legendary" system, you can buy them first for your guaranteed legendaries
Also, just so you know, Raza, DK Anduin and Baron Rivendare see literally no play in competitive wild decks. Reno is only played in renolock, which is very low tier. Are you sure you want to dust playable, competitive wild cards from adventures to craft meme wild cards that no one is playing? This decision could be very bad for your collection health in the long term
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Dude, I just explained to you why "gain" doesn't work and gave you 3 different wording cases that do work. Was it too long for you to read or what?
Also if you don't believe us about the raptor, it's not hard to go test it out yourself LUL
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If you want to change the base card (an 8 mana 8/5 with a battlecry) globally during a game, you'll need more specific wording, not just "copy". Globally changing or buffing base cards during a game is an extremely rare mechanic and has historically only appeared in jade golems and C'thun. These are big, expansion-defining mechanics with tons of support cards that buff in specific ways to ensure they don't break the game. To put this on a random neutral legendary makes no sense and puts the meta balance at risk for no good reason. Hypothetically, you can achieve this effect by making the battlecry something like, "<Gain effects blah, blah, blah> ... Give all future Da Undatakahs the same deathrattles, wherever they are."
Also, the difference between faceless and Undatakah is not "copy", but transform. Faceless transforms itself into a new minion, leaving behind no traces of its previous form, much like a shaman can transform away deathrattles with hex. For another way to make this work, the battlecry would need to be similar to "transform into a 8/5 <token name> with the deathrattle effects of 3 friendly minions that died this game." This way, when it dies, it will summon the new 8/5 token (which comes with the deathrattles) that was generated instead of the base Undatakah minion, which lacks the text to save buffs between instances
I think you've been playing way too much with Immortal Prelate. Immortal Prelate's deathrattle reads, "Shuffle this minion into your deck, it keeps any enchantments." If an Undatakah dies with this text, it will keep the deathrattles because they are enchantments (AKA, a buff). The keeping buffs part is an extremely unusual mechanic and what makes Immortal Prelate unique. Keeping buffs is not what happens normally when you summon something and Prelate is the exception to the rule
So instead of changing Undatakah, you could alternatively make villain's deathrattle could read "If this minion has 4 or more attack, resummon this with all its enchantments" (like Prelate). which would also be incredibly broken
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This logic always triggers me so much. "Why don't you buy fun game modes? Why don't you play fun decks?"
Having fun is exactly what I'm doing; I just don't find the things you mention fun personally. Is it really so wrong to save the money for future packs so I can have my fun in constructed?
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It doesn't matter if Cyclone mage is actually good or not. As long as players think it's good and play it on ladder a lot, more players are going to play decks that counter it
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That's funny, because I switched to mainly using OOC for the same reason. I have nothing against the new mods/owners of HP because they aren't Curse but the site itself is full of bugs and looks terrible. I can't even upvote decks and comments here with Chrome. On my brand new laptop. I've got friends asking me to upvote some decks every so often and it's (the site, not the friends) absolutely infuriating that I need to open this site on Edge to do so
The edit post function doesn't work every second time and quoting people in comments section is still broken. Maybe OOC doesn't have many functions but at least they've promised to add them rather than starting off with existing functions and leaving them around to rot
The way I see it, one is full of bugs from years of bad development practices and the other is too young to have any lol
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I don't know the guy either, but if a video is bad, you downvote it. If everyone were to "just ignore" things they don't like, then what would the point of the downvote button be?
"I'm going to play a card" is not educational and "10 mana cards aren't useful with 7 mana" isn't exactly rocket science. HS isn't a small indie game lacking in community content. It would be much better for new players to watch someone else
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I'll do it for you then, though I don't agree with calling people pathetic
What Curse did to Flux was a dick move. I get it. But the new owners aren't Curse and they haven't done anything other than purchase a site with a bad reputation due to its previous owners. I feel that they're getting a lot more hate than they deserve
There's no reason to leave hearthpwn other than personal convenience (you don't want to use it and OOC both). Curse couldn't care less if hearthpwn gets less traffic now; they don't own the site anymore... in fact, less traffic probably reassures them that they made the right choice in shafting the site
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I'm guessing this isn't a front page article due to the whole hearthpwn changing hands thing. Posting here so you guys are informed :)
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When I say "we", I mean the whole community; not "me" :)
With Hearthpwn staying open, a lot of folks will probably not bother checking out the other site. It could have been a clean transition
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I hope the new owners put some people on making the site not a steaming pile of spaghetti code
I'm actually kind of sad we're not transitioning to outof.cards now because it actually runs smoothly and there are so many site issues with hearthpwn that make it unpleasant to browse
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It's pretty damn annoying since it seems to re-break itself every so often and you need to open up every deck you have in the collection to make them playable again
Also, if you let it "autofill" your completely fine deck from the play menu (rather than the collection), it will actually remove your cards and put random crap in there