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Alas, no word about unnerfing my dear Yogg :/

Never forget, this used to be the atrocious quality of Q&As. 

Blizzard has come a long way, I have to admit :P

Quote from Livtraser >>

People will defend anything, even Big Priest.

Don't worry OP, if Blizzard decided to nerf Bomb Warrior, Token Druid or anything else, all these apologists would congratulate Blizzard on the nerfs regardless. It's cyclical.

People will cry over anything, even their own fun decks.

Don't worry crybabies, if Blizzard decided to nerf every thing we asked for, we can still find new things to whine over, its stupid.

Right. I hope we don't see you praising Blizzard when the nerf hammer lands, regardless of what it hits :)

People will defend anything, even Big Priest.

Don't worry OP, if Blizzard decided to nerf Bomb Warrior, Token Druid or anything else, all these apologists would congratulate Blizzard on the nerfs regardless. It's cyclical.

Quote from Haussenfuss >>

Like every other game, a sizeable portion of the HS player-base has been hoping the game will fail. If you hop onto the LoL forums, or the Dota forums, you'll notice that those games are also "dead" 

 I can't tell about Dota, but LoL has been in a state of decline for a while now (20% of the player-base was gone in 2018, after years of straight growth). Why wouldn't it be reasonable to call it dying? When does it become reasonable to call it dying? Is it only dying if it goes into a state of no-return? Must it be a terminal state? Is this about vocabulary? Would "decaying" or "declining" make the statement truer?

Well, Sherman, I'm waiting for your thorough opinion on the first episode :P

Quote from OldenGolden >>

You may be surprised to discover this, but there were, are, and always will be folks like you ready to call every expansion terrible after the first week or less. Just one of those things we all have to put up with in life, like the knee-jerk nerfers or the ones who need to write a long paragraph to tell hundreds of people that they're quitting the game. You even threw in some insults to the game designers, in order to keep the cliché going.

It's time for the community to step up and start demanding more from our whiners and complainers.

This comment aged as finely as the Year of the Raven.

Quote from Hooghout >>

What is the verdict of the quality of card design in the last 8 months according to the OP? Not that good. So now he's happy. A year from now what will be the verdict of this exp? I'm sure 8 months ago people where happy with the meta then. 

 

You've hit the nail on the head here. People defended Witchwood when there were complaints that it did very little. People defended BDP when it did nothing to the meta once more. Even in Rastakhan's Rumble, people stepped forward to defend it from criticism. And then the amnesiac hypocrisy kicks in and everyone admits last year was terrible, that now rotations will improve things.

Take a look at this thread: https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/216553-can-we-just-say-it-already

The third comment gets a ton of support, and yet none of the upvoters have started a thread now to defend the Year of the Raven. In fact, quite a few of them would probably agree now that the Year of the Raven sucked. Because it is safe to show negativity towards the past. Things can never be bad in the present, though, that's just negativity!

Big Priest is undefendable. There is no way to weasel the deck out of criticism, even with the L2P excuse, which is new even by HS standards.

Every other deck can be teched against. Here's the difference: if I put a Dirty Rat or 2 in my deck, I am good to go with proper timing against combo decks. If I put in MC Tech and board clears, I will probably have a chance against aggro. The point of techs is that including them boosts your winrate against a certain match-up.

To beat Big Priest through deckbuilding, you need a literal whole deck built for it, and not just any deck. It needs to be Shaman or Mage, and fuck you if you play anything else. You must summon at least 3 different minions (which means 2 Saronite Taskmasters still won't work)  for them to have a chance of ruining Eternal Servitude, you must have a Hex/Poly by turn 4 to prevent Barnes BS, and another transform by turn 6. You MUST never ever kill a Ragnaros or you will lose regardless. And you must get 2 huge board clears ready for the spellstones, because even if you somehow polymorph 4 minions of theirs, it will only count as 1 sheep in the ressurrection pool for reasons that are unfathomable to anyone with half a brain cell.

Say what you want about Mechathun and Odd Pally and whatever else you want, but it takes a severe amount of hypocrisy to tell people to "play better" against Big Priest.

Quote from CrusaderRO >>

We need some "op, you're a moron" posters on the forum. Their job would be to go and post in every thread that asks for nerfs (or simply complains about some decks/cards) during the first two weeks of any expansion.

It's the only way to make them feel like crap and stop posting nonsense. If most of their threads would be filled with "op, you're a moron" posts, maybe they'll become afraid of posting and start thinking more.

Unfortunately this "community" is fueled by this game's target audience. Probably because they beg their parents to buy the bundles for them and such.

 Here are a few stale, sanctimonious replies that people have used to shield the game from criticism since the dawn of time:

• [Salt Thread]
• Git gud
• OP plays X class and is salty
• X is important for the game (don't forget to go completely silent when it gets nerfed)
• Im glAD BlIZZ doEsNt LIstEN tO thiS coMmuNitY
• Accusing OP of playing homebrew decks (only those lose games, right?)
• Telling OP to switch to Wild/Standard
• Assuming OP has no tech cards whatsoever (even if he does, it's not enough. 2/3rds of your deck must be tech cards before you can complain)
• gAEm iS dYinG sIncE bEtA 
• Telling OP to wait for the next expansion
• Telling OP it's too early into the current expansion (time these last two carefully and you have a cheap defense 100% of the time! How rad is that?)

You might be shocked to learn this, but using the same replies every time actually weakens your point. You'll rack up support from people who agree with you and get little more than a glance from the opposition.

Seriously man? Don't you people have never enough?

Quote from Morkimus >>

Okay, first things first. That jab at democracy where everyone laughs at Sam's suggestion was pretty funny.

 Here's a better version of that scene. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bqvljv/i_fixed_the_worst_scene_in_episode_6/

****

It's the day after and it's starting to hit me a little harder.  I really liked Dany and her story is quite tragic.  Emilia Clarke, thank you for such a beautiful performance and portrayal of my queen. 

Wild is Blizzard's redheaded stepchild. The sooner you realize this, the better. Hope for nothing, at least that way you won't be disappointed.

Time to celebrate and start the Night off with the Game Of Thrones song 'Castamere', a firey fucking song by Portraits.
Enjoy! Music video planning to accompany it tonight at 3AM! (UK)

The solo content has been free for the last 5 expansions, and now it's paid content, of course people are going to be upset, we've been spoiled with Adventures for the past 2 years. I think a lot of people are channeling their frustration wrong, especially some F2P players who are experiencing solo-adventure fomo. These players also are being told it's kind of overpay when using gold, which must frustrate them even more.

To the F2P players who won't be playing this but want to, I say just wait it out. Hardly anyone will be talking about this adventure in a month from now and the fomo won't be as bad. Or the F2P players can just buy 1 wing for 700g, don't worry about buying the whole thing, just enjoy playing 2 wings with Shaman/Hunter/Mage.

R + L = J Doesn't matter

Bran is the TER Doesn't matter

Night King/white walkers are the real threat Doesn't matter

Bran can do cool warg shit Doesn't matter

Dany set out to break the wheel Doesn't matter, history repeats itself

The wall is destroyed, Castle Black serves no purpose, Nights Watch is no longer necessary Doesn't matter

Arya is No One Doesn't matter

Qaith Doesn't matter

Bron wanted the Lannister brothers dead Doesn't matter

Greyworm commands the Unsullied in Dany's name, wants revenge on Jon Doesn't matter, fuck it lets go to Naath

Melisandre/Lord of Light/Shadow baby magic Doesn't matter

I wish the Night King won.  

edit: Why was Tormund and the wildlings hanging out at Castle Black?  Were they ALL just waiting for Jon?  

I in no way want to shit on people who enjoyed the show.  I have never begrudged someone their moments of escapism, and I will say that there were some shots that, as long as I consider them as illustrations to the better story of the books, will live on as great moment of television.

Having said that, it's hard to care about the glory of the first four seasons when the end undermines so much of that groundwork.

It's like the whole R + L = J plot line.  Obviously, this was guessed for years before they gave it to us at the end of season . . . six, I think.  It's a wonderful plot moment, not because that particular fact that Jon's father was Rhaegar is such a huge deal in and of itself, but because of all the crazy ramifications for the rest of the story.  Rhaegar's marriage to Lianna caused Daenerys to be where she was.  It caused the precursor conflict of the whole story.  It caused Jaime to be dishonored and bitter, even though he acted in an honorable fashion.  It's a spectacular moment of reveal.

Now, in the books, this is presumably going to happen because Rhaegar believed in the prophecy of the Prince who was Promised.  He's not some dick who wanted to peace out on his wife; he believed that his actions were necessary for the survival of the kingdom.  But, looking at the TV series, the Rhaegar/Lianna line has ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING ON THE CURRENT EVENTS.

Think about it.  Jon was King in the North before his lineage was revealed.  What did the fact that he was the rightful heir effect?  He could have killed Dany without it.  He didn't kill the Night King or even fight the Night King, so clearly the whole prophecy thing was irrelevant to the story.  What did it serve?

In fact, now that we know the ending, I guess Rhaegar was a dick who just tore a kingdom apart for no reason.

Furthermore, just from a medieval history point of view, the Bran the Broken thing was patently absurd.  The kid can't have children.  He can't lead armies.  The whole bullshit about "who tells the best stories" was an attempt at high art writing that fell woefully short, and did a huge disservice to Tyrion's character.  And when Bran dies, or has to grow into a tree, or whatever the fuck, we get a whole new round of killing  and intrigue to figure out who serves as the next king.

I understand that not every plot thread can pay off as some hugely relevant issue.  We lost Quaithe and never figured out anything about her, for example, and while I wished that were not so, I can understand why she sort of fell by the wayside.  Another HUGE one for me was the heavily-implied supernatural nature of Roose Bolton.  It's more prominent in the books, but they had an opportunity to make the Boltons some kind of ally to the Others, or perhaps their own entity, but no.  Nothing there.  Fine, if that's what they want to do, at least we got the Battle of the Bastards.

It is patently fucking ridiculous, however, that they did not pay off three of the most central plot lines through the entire series:

1.  Jon is the progeny of Rhaegar and Lianna.

2.  Littlefinger started the events of Ned Stark's demise and paved the way for a takeover by Daenerys.

3.  Bran and the Three-Eyed Raven

Jon's lineage doesn't matter, because he's not Azor Ahai.  None of that mattered in the least to the resolution of the story.

Littlefinger dies unceremoniously after fucking around doing stupid stuff he was way too smart to do.  I guess that plot line ended with, "well, that guy did a lot of horrible shit for power, but he got his".  Cool . . . I guess.

Bran was hands down the biggest waste of screen time in the show.  Aside from verifying that Littlefinger was, in fact, bad, Bran's powers amount to nothing.  Furthermore, we got no context as to why the Night King cares about him in particular.  We get no exploration of any number of mysteries about the history of Westeros through his flashbacks.  And we don't get the obvious fact pointed out that any number of people would be ready to put a dagger thru Bran's heart for allowing the events of episode 5 to occur without trying to intervene.  The idea that anyone would accept him as king knowing that he exhibits no care at all for the responsibility his powers incur is beyond the pale of suspension of disbelief.

Even if you assume that the seasons had to be truncated (which they didn't), the amount of screen time devoted to Brann is tragic.  We couldn't pay any attention to Dorne's intended story line, but we got the "Hold the Door!" seen, so it's all good.  We couldn't find out anything about the long-foreshadowed relevant lineage of Bronn, but we got Arya side boob, so it's cool.

Someone above basically said that we should enjoy the parts of the journey that were quality.  The problem is that memories can be recontextualized as events unfold.  I remember spending hours talking with my wife about what might happen next season.  Those were good times . . . then.  Now it just seems an insane waste of time.

The real tragedy is that there are new, ambitious fantasy projects in the works for TV and cinema.  And as much as I would like to be excited, I just can't bring myself to invest that sort of attention.  If GoT can't bring it home after such an amazing build-up, what else can?

Quote from Junus10000>>

It only seems unfair to me that Jon had the balls to do what had to be done, and yet he is punished for it, only because Gray Worm, a nobody, insists on it. To hell with Gray Worm, man. 

I'm a Ramsay Bolton fan but I still feel sorry for Jon Snow's fate, even a gross death would have been thousands of times better for him. :( F...K stupid Grey Worm and the f...king Unsullied!!! >:-( 

Quote from GerritDeMan >>

I was just reminded by a post on r/Freefolk that the only purpose of the horse that Arya rode away on at the end of episode 5 was to make it look cool. Once again they show us that they don't care at all about logic as long as it makes a scene look good.

https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bqpfk2/earns_my_vote_for_the_most_useless_character_award/

Arya sort of forgot she rode out of KL.

Arya sort of forgot about killing a queen and her faceless powers.

Bran sort of forgot about being the Three Eyed Raven.

Bran sort of forgot about the previous scene ("I don't want it") when he said, "Why do you think I came all this way?"

John sort of forgot to mention the Nights Watch isn't a thing anymore.  

D&D sort of forgot about how time and travel works.  

Seriously feel like they checked out a long time ago and just played mad libs with the script for season 8. 

Quote from RavenSunHP >>

A tv series is supposed to entertain, yes, but through NARRATION (of something with some substance).

That's because they forgot that, and focused everything on sheer entertainment, that we got to this point...

They focused everything on stupid CGI. To be more precise, on the f...king dragons, that is all...