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Mhmm, I 100% agree with what Reynad said.
My first thoughts were - why should I shuffle all of the minions (mine included) into the opponent's deck; I would just delay the game and lose to fatigue, if I'm in a control vs control MU. But then I watched Reynad's video, where he mentioned the small critters you can shuffle into your opponent's deck and they, trying to fish for burn or for something useful, will draw them instead.
So the question is - how to build a deck with this card properly? It's obviously bad vs value decks (Jade, Raza or just control priest, N'Zoth etc), but it has the potential to screw your opponent, who plays an aggro, mid-range or even a combo deck. You just dilute their decks. I'm not a priest player, but I would love to explore the possibilities with this spell, as this is certainly a great challenge for the deck-builder.
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Reading some comments, I would like to mention two things:
- Although I also considered the support in QR, I don't really think, that this deck will kick off and become extremely popular. Why? Because a) the nerf still impacts the pace regarding the completion of this quest and most importantly b) the weakness of this deck was the aggro MU. And what's the meta atm? Granted, things will change, the new set will freshen the decks, but nevertheless the weakness remains.
- Why do you people mention tempo rogue? That's the worst deck you would want to put her in. It's not just playing Bonemares and Vilespine Slayers and hoping, they will stick until you get to play her. In order to get the value out of her, you need to keep her in your deck and this is the opposite of what tempo rogue tries to do. You want to be aggressive as much as possible, you want to apply pressure and then to finish off your opponent with Leeroy Jenkins or other form of Cold Blood burst. A 3 2/2 minion, although I also think she's quite powerful, is not what Kelerogue needs.
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Nice try, but as we all know the card transforms into the upgraded version. It doesn't leave your hand, replaced by the better one afterwards.
But dunno what the warlock spellstone will look like. I'm also pretty excited to find out.
Some of you mentioned the self damage, others the discard. I may add two more suggestions:
- destroy 2 (or X) friendly minions
- destroy a mana crystal
Rewards? Some good demon bodies, which will compensate the tempo loss. Like I said, it's just a thought.
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Inb4 almost a reverse Inkmaster Solia.
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Dammit. I thought this looked more like a demon (before the reveal, only looking at its face). I still hope warlock gets some nice demons this expansion.
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- Ice Walker - good at stopping big minions and you don't need to use extra resources to do it continuously, after all you only use your HP. But this stops only one minion at a time and against a zerg board or against spell oriented decks this would feel like a bad draw.
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Do I see demon(s)?
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So I want to ask something:
I think that this card has a power level greater than other previously released secrets. Right now I'm thinking of the polymorph one, of the mana bind, maybe vaporize. So my question would be - do you guys think, that this card will find a home in popular decks? Am I correct to state, that tempo (or burn) mage would use this instead of mirror image. Because think about it - against aggro decks you rarely get something good from this secret, you could at least concentrate on dealing damage to the opponent's face and racing him down. Explosive runes may be counterable, but I think this also contributes to the main strategy of the deck - maybe not that much regarding the tempo aspect, but like I said, more in pressuring the opponent. Because let's face it - control decks also try to minimize the value you will get from mirror; normally I, playing controllock, try to give my secret mage opponents a mistress of mixtures, a worthless 1/3 demon taunt or a doomsayer.
What I'm saying is - is that when you are paying 3 mana price for a spell, you don't lose the effect, which you paid for. You will either kill/damage a big minion or you will play the aggressive (burn) role, and you will rush down your opponent. So am I right of wrong for thinking like this?
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Don't know how to evaluate it. On the first glance it looks really promising, but I think it needs to be play-tested a lot. My initial thoughts are making a value elemental mage, but like I said, it needs to be tested to see how good or bad will it perform.