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Apr 6, 2017
Adurin posted a message on Arena Card Ranking Tier Lists by Class!! (Updated: 12/8/2016)

This thread will be going some drastic changes now that, Arena has become "standardized" just as normal/ranked play has. It will be re-released once the current sets are re-tuned along side with the Un'goro set release and data collection. So stay tuned for updates.
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Feb 3, 2017
Adurin posted a message on Arena Card Ranking Tier Lists by Class!! (Updated: 12/8/2016)

Quote from SvizacCRO >>

I'm surprised that Grimestreet Outfitter is ranked so low. It's a game winning card. Whenever my opponents had it on turn 2, I lost.

The issue with that card is that its very polarizing, sometimes if they have full minions and a good curve and you dont they auto win. Sometimes they have all minions but not such a great curve and you do and you win most of the time if played properly. Theres a ton of factors and a arena meta driven by tempo/curvestone usualy the +1/+1 is just not enough if your opponent out tempos you from t2 or even t1 and onwards.
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Dec 7, 2016
Adurin posted a message on Arena Card Ranking Tier Lists by Class!! (Updated: 12/8/2016)

The Gadgetzan Update should be released fairly soon, currently resolving some technical issues which is slowing the process I hope to have it resolved by later to day and send out the update sometime after that tonight or early tomorrow.

I apologize for the delay but working diligently to get it to the community as quickly as I can..., Thank you.
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Jul 24, 2016
Adurin posted a message on Arena Card Ranking Tier Lists by Class!! (Updated: 12/8/2016)

Quote from TheHiddenNinja >>

In your druid list, in the 'epic' section, under 'S' rank, you have put 'Big Wisps', which is an uncollectible card. Also, the 'wisps of the old gods' choose one card is a 'D'rank card. Does this mean that these Wisps of the Old Gods are good? Please fix; you can't draft big wisps in any deck.

Thats actually a mistake on my part. "Token" cards aren't supposed to be in the ranking lists at all, every now and then one slips through do to the volume of cards in the tooltip and the fact that tokens show up as "cards" in it. Good news is the tooltip has been updated so I can filter out tokens so that wont be happening again. I'm currently working on an update right now for the entire set of hearthstone, meaning Basic - Whispers of the Old Gods. After i address a current issue in the tooltip, everything that was missing will appear in lists, to not mention a ton of cards are getting re ranked across the entirety of the collection for Arena. So bare with me a bit, in a few hours I'll be posting the update if all is well.
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Jul 16, 2016
Adurin posted a message on Adurin's Stream

Will begin live streaming soon.

Second round of Overwatch Competitive Play.

Make sure to stop by if not busy to see some epic plays and fails.

As always if you enjoy the stream give channel a follow, or post a quick message on it, I appreciate any and all your support.

https://www.twitch.tv/adurinx
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Jul 1, 2016
Adurin posted a message on Adurin's Stream

After yesterday's Hearthstone postponement due to bad weather I'm back at it again!

Live Streaming Now.

With Overwatch Competitive Play release it is time jump to it. #GitGood or DieTrying.

https://www.twitch.tv/adurinx
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Jun 29, 2016
Adurin posted a message on Adurin's Stream

Live Streaming Now.

Today I'll be covering this week's Tavern Brawl, and later on for the first time on stream Arena Runs!

Come join the fun!

https://www.twitch.tv/adurinx
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Jun 25, 2016
Adurin posted a message on Adurin's Stream

Taking some time off from Hearthstone and doing some Overwatch streaming.

Come join the Mayhem on stream!

https://www.twitch.tv/adurinx
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Jun 24, 2016
Adurin posted a message on Adurin's Stream

The Quest for Legend will begin soon.

Come join me in the struggles of Ranked Ladder as I try to climb up that chain!

https://www.twitch.tv/adurinx
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Jun 22, 2016
Adurin posted a message on Adurin's Stream

Live now

I'll be doing a stream session covering this week's Tavern Brawl.

Come join the fun that is Tavern Brawl Insanity #2!

https://www.twitch.tv/adurinx
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Jun 8, 2016
Adurin posted a message on Adurin's Stream

Hello guys & girls. This is a thread for my stream. I'll be posting a new post once per day whenever I go live with a new streaming session.

Posts will include streaming start time(EST) and what I'll be doing for that specific streaming session.

So be on the lookout for new posts when I do go live.

Hope to see ya there!
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Jun 5, 2016
Adurin posted a message on Arena Card Ranking Tier Lists by Class!! (Updated: 12/8/2016)

Quote from SvizacCRO >>

Shaman rare section is missing Master of Evolution

Thanks for letting me know I'll be fixing that in the next batch of rank tweakings.
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Jun 5, 2016
Adurin posted a message on Arena Card Ranking Tier Lists by Class!! (Updated: 12/8/2016)

Quote from Emanon >>

Quote from TianZi >>

I don't want to say the tier lists are necessarily wrong, but it would involve playing so incredibly different from how I'd normally play that I wonder if most players actually fall under such a playstyle. An interesting read nonetheless.

Well, unfortunately they are. I don't want to come across as offensive, but whoever created these tierlists does not seem to have a good understanding of arena at all. There are so many cards which are simply evaluated wrong. Looking at the Druid class alone, why are Burly Rockjaw Trogg, Clockwork Knight and Tinkertown Technician considered A-Rank while Bog Creeper, Haunted Creeper or Druid of the Saber are a B!? Or in the Rare category: Corrupted Healbot, Corrupted Seer and Emperor Cobra are D-Rank...those are in fact above average/very good cards and putting them in the same category as an Ancient Watcher is quite ridiculous.

I could go on with this but there seems to be something fundamentally wrong about the evaluation of cards in these tierlists or am I overlooking something here? Newbies should better rely on Heartharena or The Lightforge - tierlists instead (sometimes I also disagree with some of the evaluations there but at least the evaluations are a lot more consistent than the hearthpwn lists).

There are a couple of mistakes in every tier lists. Some of which you pointed out. I'm working on releasing a fix to address all the wrong rankings, after all with so many cards to ranks there bound to be some wrongfully ranked cards specially after each new expansion.

Also keep in mind Rankings on these site and other similar sites like it base their ranks upon Face Value; Mana Cost, Effects, Stats, Consistency, Etc. So sites differ upon evaluations.

As for HearthArena you can't really justly compare it to a static tier list. Because a static list just gives you generic ranking or value as stand alone cards, sites like HA which has a "Static Value" but then changes said values according to how your draft is progressing, what you have or don't have do a ton of work in the background you're not aware off. It alone tells you how you're curving out, how not having taunts, silence, or any form of removal might make a difference once one of those elements is offered to you in a draft. Or how as you draft it tells you whether your current deck fits a type of archetype: Attrition, Value, Tempo, Mid-Range and so on. It does all the work for you and all you have to do is for the most part follow it and pick as it says.

These tier list serve more like a general tool to give you an idea of the strength of the card as stand alone, and as you draft your experience knowledge or lack thereof does the rest. Its up to you to ask why this card is S or F, whether this static ranking value changes according to what I currently need. Because at the end of the day it's ultimately your decision.

Like I've said there are a great deal of inconsistencies and wrong rankings, me and the other Arena mod are working on fixing these issues as soon as we can.
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May 7, 2016
Adurin posted a message on Arena Card Ranking Tier Lists by Class!! (Updated: 12/8/2016)

Quote from barradepan >>

yes, sorry 4 the bad english xD

It all comes down to preference and luck in a draft to be fair. However; Paladin, Mage, Rogue still remain in the top tier from the looks of it. Shamans has become quite strong now due to the quality of cards released for the class in current expand. The power creep boost is not as noticeable in other classes as with Shaman. Still a bit early to tell seeing as only been a week+.
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May 3, 2016
Adurin posted a message on Arena Card Ranking Tier Lists by Class!! (Updated: 12/8/2016)

Quote from barradepan >>

How is the Class tier list after WotOG expansion?

You mean the top arena classes after WotOG Expand?
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