That was an oversight on my part. This adventure added many tokens and Golden Monkey is one said token that you cant draft. I'll be sure to check the entire tier list to see if any other oversights were made.
In a few minutes I'll be updating the lists to fix some of the LoE mistakes that were made went I first released the rankings. As always if there are any mistakes that I might have missed from the LoE portion or in general feel free to let me know.
Also, I've been working on doing a complete run through of the entire list from Classic - LoE for some time now. I originally had a bit of an overhaul for entire thread scheduled to be released some time next month. However with the announcement of the Standard & Wild Mode along with new expansion and a rework of some of the basic/classic cards I feel its best to hold on for both of these things to be implemented before proceeding with the overhaul.
So stay tuned, and as always keep giving feedback, suggestions, and thoughts. Goes along way to helping this list be better, after all this list is for the community.
It all comes down to preference and luck in a draft to be fair. However; Paladin, Mage, Rogue still remain in the top tier from the looks of it. Shamans has become quite strong now due to the quality of cards released for the class in current expand. The power creep boost is not as noticeable in other classes as with Shaman. Still a bit early to tell seeing as only been a week+.
I don't usually look at tier lists, but looking at these almost makes me feel like I'm playing a whole different game. I wonder how many players really actually benefit from tier lists and how many players do worse after looking at tier lists due to a clash in playstyle. Seriously so many cards with a 3 tier difference from how I would classify them. My opinion already clashes with HearthArena's opinion from time to time, but some of these are much further off.
I don't want to say the tier lists are necessarily wrong, but it would involve playing so incredibly different from how I'd normally play that I wonder if most players actually fall under such a playstyle. An interesting read nonetheless.
I don't want to say the tier lists are necessarily wrong, but it would involve playing so incredibly different from how I'd normally play that I wonder if most players actually fall under such a playstyle. An interesting read nonetheless.
I could go on with this but there seems to be something fundamentally wrong about the evaluation of cards in these tierlists or am I overlooking something here? Newbies should better rely on Heartharena or The Lightforge - tierlists instead (sometimes I also disagree with some of the evaluations there but at least the evaluations are a lot more consistent than the hearthpwn lists).
There are a couple of mistakes in every tier lists. Some of which you pointed out. I'm working on releasing a fix to address all the wrong rankings, after all with so many cards to ranks there bound to be some wrongfully ranked cards specially after each new expansion.
Also keep in mind Rankings on these site and other similar sites like it base their ranks upon Face Value; Mana Cost, Effects, Stats, Consistency, Etc. So sites differ upon evaluations.
As for HearthArena you can't really justly compare it to a static tier list. Because a static list just gives you generic ranking or value as stand alone cards, sites like HA which has a "Static Value" but then changes said values according to how your draft is progressing, what you have or don't have do a ton of work in the background you're not aware off. It alone tells you how you're curving out, how not having taunts, silence, or any form of removal might make a difference once one of those elements is offered to you in a draft. Or how as you draft it tells you whether your current deck fits a type of archetype: Attrition, Value, Tempo, Mid-Range and so on. It does all the work for you and all you have to do is for the most part follow it and pick as it says.
These tier list serve more like a general tool to give you an idea of the strength of the card as stand alone, and as you draft your experience knowledge or lack thereof does the rest. Its up to you to ask why this card is S or F, whether this static ranking value changes according to what I currently need. Because at the end of the day it's ultimately your decision.
Like I've said there are a great deal of inconsistencies and wrong rankings, me and the other Arena mod are working on fixing these issues as soon as we can.
In your druid list, in the 'epic' section, under 'S' rank, you have put 'Big Wisps', which is an uncollectible card. Also, the 'wisps of the old gods' choose one card is a 'D'rank card. Does this mean that these Wisps of the Old Gods are good? Please fix; you can't draft big wisps in any deck.
Thats actually a mistake on my part. "Token" cards aren't supposed to be in the ranking lists at all, every now and then one slips through do to the volume of cards in the tooltip and the fact that tokens show up as "cards" in it. Good news is the tooltip has been updated so I can filter out tokens so that wont be happening again. I'm currently working on an update right now for the entire set of hearthstone, meaning Basic - Whispers of the Old Gods. After i address a current issue in the tooltip, everything that was missing will appear in lists, to not mention a ton of cards are getting re ranked across the entirety of the collection for Arena. So bare with me a bit, in a few hours I'll be posting the update if all is well.
Mc tech is only good vs paladin shaman or opponents that doesn't play around it. I would rate it B at best. Since it should 9 times out of 10 be 3/3 for 3 unless you fight bad opponents.
I don't know if that's 100% true, sometimes you have a higher chance to win by ignoring playing around MCtech. I think it depends on board position and cards advantage. Although agaisnt mage it comes up less because you may already be playing around flamestrike.
The Gadgetzan Update should be released fairly soon, currently resolving some technical issues which is slowing the process I hope to have it resolved by later to day and send out the update sometime after that tonight or early tomorrow.
I apologize for the delay but working diligently to get it to the community as quickly as I can..., Thank you.
Although agaisnt mage it comes up less because you may already be playing around flamestrike.'
I agree for mage Mind Control Tech is not good for mage, since most players will try to not put on board many minions. Tho you wrote "against" mage
Right, I wasn't thinking about wheter it was good for mage actually though the implications of what I was saying do indicate MC tech is less good for mage. I was actually protesting the original assertion by Mundu that someone is a "bad" player if they don't play around MCtech... I was basically saying it depends on the matchup and situation... if the tempo loss of playing around MCtech is going to lose you the game it's much better to play into MCtech - esp as it's more likely that they don't have it. And actually assert that it's generally a bad play to play around MC tech just for the sake of playing around it... It's only a good play if you can still win and play around it.
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Is there tier list updated with LoE cards?
The LoE Adventure cards will be added later today. Making last minute rank adjustments before releasing them.
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Fjola Lightbane is Rank D the same as Elise Starseeker?
Spider Tank is 3 cost 3/4 and is Rank S in every class, I wouldn't count on mech synergies so highly.
Reno Jackson Rank S in Warrior?
Why is Golden Monkey in the list? can you draft it?
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In a few minutes I'll be updating the lists to fix some of the LoE mistakes that were made went I first released the rankings. As always if there are any mistakes that I might have missed from the LoE portion or in general feel free to let me know.
Also, I've been working on doing a complete run through of the entire list from Classic - LoE for some time now. I originally had a bit of an overhaul for entire thread scheduled to be released some time next month. However with the announcement of the Standard & Wild Mode along with new expansion and a rework of some of the basic/classic cards I feel its best to hold on for both of these things to be implemented before proceeding with the overhaul.
So stay tuned, and as always keep giving feedback, suggestions, and thoughts. Goes along way to helping this list be better, after all this list is for the community.
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I don't usually look at tier lists, but looking at these almost makes me feel like I'm playing a whole different game. I wonder how many players really actually benefit from tier lists and how many players do worse after looking at tier lists due to a clash in playstyle. Seriously so many cards with a 3 tier difference from how I would classify them. My opinion already clashes with HearthArena's opinion from time to time, but some of these are much further off.
I don't want to say the tier lists are necessarily wrong, but it would involve playing so incredibly different from how I'd normally play that I wonder if most players actually fall under such a playstyle. An interesting read nonetheless.
For Druid, I believe that Eydis Darkbane and Fjola Lightbane should be in the same tier.
Shaman rare section is missing Master of Evolution
Also keep in mind Rankings on these site and other similar sites like it base their ranks upon Face Value; Mana Cost, Effects, Stats, Consistency, Etc. So sites differ upon evaluations.
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You don't have Mark of Y'Shaarj in the Druid tier list. No big deal, just FYI.
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love it thanks for the help !!!
The Gadgetzan Update should be released fairly soon, currently resolving some technical issues which is slowing the process I hope to have it resolved by later to day and send out the update sometime after that tonight or early tomorrow.
I apologize for the delay but working diligently to get it to the community as quickly as I can..., Thank you.
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