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Quote from Denza >>

They really gave just 3 packs from Ashes of Outlands. What a joke. And I don't care about the other 3. 

 Yeah! Gimme the entire expansion for FREE! Blizz Scum!

 

Cheap ass punks giving us Demon Hunter Set when they coulda made us pay through the nose for a new class. ThIs GaMe iS TrAsH!

 Yea, it's not like you can't dust your Wild collection and have the whole set.  

I will consume packs very soon.  

You are not prepared!    Sacrificial Pact

Quote from Mansfield92 >>

I feel like I have to react to this. From my perspective I can no longer have fun on ladder. For past months I almost didn't play ladder, I was just focusing on BG. But when I tried this stupid new ladder system, I only face people with Legend cardbacks, full golden decks, golden heroes. I didn't play that much last year, yet I face emoting tryhards now. Can someone explain? I mean I play Hearthstone since 2014 and I have so far 2 golden heroes and King Anduin. I have same bad experience in Standard and Wild. I don't think keeping the winrate of everyone to 50% is a good move. I mean this system makes sense on like bronze / silver, but then it should be just the rank and not some stupid MMR. 

Seems like new players are more important that players playing for 5+ years... Thanks Blizzard

 If you've been playing for 5+ years and can't win a game, I don't think that's Blizzard's fault.  Sounds like you only like playing when you're winning.  Here's a thought, maybe the cards you're using or the decks you're playing aren't good, or there could be one other reason.  

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If i'm playing aggro, I always concede against quest priest and CW and did in previous meta too, but since I ran into them quite a bit today I changed to midrange. Priest is being played a lot at the moment, which might be due to the new changes to the basic set.

 Thing is you should be beating these decks on a good draw.  CW and Quest Priest can get a bad draw against aggro and lose hard.  Even if you spend 3 turns to see if you can keep a board or go face I think it's worth it to play for 5 minutes.  

You could have a 70% winrate but only getting about 60% because you're auto losing before you even see your first few cards.   

You're not really saving that much time by auto losing.  I'd like to see the numbers.  

 I think I have a solid 20% against res priest with face hunter, while with midrange it's a close match up, CW is quite rare, but with Dr.Boom unerfed I just don't like my chances. You are right though maybe I should see the first turns how the match plays out since there is always a small chance that they have a bad draw.

EDIT: and i despise res priest as a deck so I would just rather not play against it with anything, let alone with a deck that needs really good RNG to beat it.

 Would you rather play against scam mage/rogue and think you have better chances?  Maybe you're just not playing at the higher ranks, because these decks are Pure Cancer.   

Quote from Toralan >>

If i'm playing aggro, I always concede against quest priest and CW and did in previous meta too, but since I ran into them quite a bit today I changed to midrange. Priest is being played a lot at the moment, which might be due to the new changes to the basic set.

 Thing is you should be beating these decks on a good draw.  CW and Quest Priest can get a bad draw against aggro and lose hard.  Even if you spend 3 turns to see if you can keep a board or go face I think it's worth it to play for 5 minutes.  

You could have a 70% winrate but only getting about 60% because you're auto losing before you even see your first few cards.   

You're not really saving that much time by auto losing.  I'd like to see the numbers.  

Thing is that you have no real solid evidence to prove one way or the other.  Wait a couple days until they start doing Theorycraft streams again. 

Everything you said goes out the window.  

You come back and start a new Thread or looking at cards talking about Nerfs.  One deck rises above the others and everyone cries out how the new state of the Meta is PriestStone etc...  

Then everyone starts playing that deck and Threads go on and on about 50% of games are Priest.   

Then someone builds a counter deck and everyone starts to agree that deck is not really that good.   

Then the meta starts to settle after a few weeks and new decks and archetypes come out.  

You said you're good at the game, yet you don't seem to understand this happens every 4 months at release.   You can go back and count the threads that started out just like yours.  

To respond to your card reviews -  

- Dormant minions are interesting and will need some play testing.  

- I like Discard Lock

- I like Murloc Paladin (Swarm Decks)

- Druid has 2 Tier 1 decks that gain support.  It doesn't need another.  

- Lots of people will be playing Priest / Demon Hunter.  

- Expansions will have Filler Cards.  (Shocking)

Thank you for the Clarification.  

I don't see them in the card list.  

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Quote from mistermath314 >>

I don't understand why people hate Leeroy Jenkins so much :P 

Ye, you can combo with him... in ONE CLASS (Rogue)

Fireball does the same amount of burst damage, ignores taunt, costs 1 less mana, and can also be used in combos (see Exodia Mage),

Kor'kron Elite is currently the most overstatted charge minion (until the next expansion, when demon hunter comes out)

Reckless Rocketeer might do 1 less damage and cost 1 more mana, but it doesn't summon two 1/1 whelps

Arcanite Reaper does 10 damage for 5 mana, easily outclassing Leeroy Jenkins as a finisher

 

So in conclusion, I plead you to stop jumping on the "hate leeroy" bandwagon. There are far more powerful finishers and far more powerful aggro cards.

The only card you didn't mention that wasn't a class card is Reckless Rocketeer.   

The others are class cards.  

Leeroy is the most oppressive non-class aggro card in the game.  It's the most popular finisher.   

It also limits design space.  Good luck with Reckless Rocketeer.

The only card you didn't mention that wasn't a class card is Reckless Rocketeer.   

The others are class cards.  

Leeroy is the most oppressive non-class aggro card in the game.  It's the most popular finisher.   

It also limits design space.  Good luck with Reckless Rocketeer.

8 out of my last 10 games have been Embiggen Druid.  

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Quote from OldenGolden >>

I think these things go through phases, and I think a lot of people are finding the popular decks frustrating and difficult to interact with. Also, I know that as a casual player, those decks are just as popular there as they are on ladder, so it's more difficult to find a place to enjoy yourself if Galakrond Shamans and Rogues or Face Hunters aren't your thing. 

Throw in some obnoxious emoting and some roping, and people get enraged. To me, it's understandable - generally, I find, the people that complain about toxic communities and whatnot are the same ones who fuel that fire by queueing up a shaman in casual, waiting on turn 1 until the rope's nearly gone, then playing the Vir'naal battlecry quest.

 I think roping does have a lot to do with rage.  The two go hand in hand.  

OP do you find yourself roping more often than not?