In the old days, hearthpwn was almost the only site where people can netdeck. If you want to share your deck, you need something to host your deck list, and hearthpwn was the most convenient site to use. The advantage disappeared when Blizzard enabled in-game deck code. You don't need to upload the entire deck to some third-party site; when a friend asks for a deck list, you give them a code; if you want to share your deck, you post the deck code on reddit.
But still, there was one advantage exclusive to hearthpwn: filtering decks with my own collection. Now that hsreplay.net allow uploading your own card collection, this only remaining advantage disappeared. Hsreplay can filter by collection AND by deck winrate in the same time; I don't see how hearthpwn can do better in terms of netdecking.
If people browse news and discuss on reddit, netdeck on hsreplay, watch streams on twitch and videos on youtube - what else could this site provide? I'm really concerned that users of the site may go away gradually if there's nothing EXCLUSIVE TO HEARTHPWN they can find here. The fan creation competition is one thing, but it only attracts a small number of people. This site needs some high-quality contents.
EDIT: I just realized that you mods know the Chinese site iyingdi, so I'll take it as an example. Iyingdi is similar to hearthpwn: it provides everything related to hearthstone - news, netdeck (with guide), database, forum, stream, etc. There are actually a lot of Chinese site with these functions, but what iyingdi has exclusively is high-quality contents. Editors at the site read all submitted deck guides. They only pass the good guides and authors get paid for it (100RMB, approximately 15 US dollar). You can also write other guides (arena guide for instance) and send it to the editors; you'll be paid accordingly. In this way, the front page of iyingdi is always a gather of high-quality contents that is exclusive to the site. I don't know how iyingdi makes money, but guides at iyingdi are entirely free and they don't even have a premium option. I think you mods are acquainted with Bennidge at iyingdi. He can explain how the site works for you. What I see is that iyingdi provides much better Hearthstone-related contents. If they can do it, why can't hearthpwn?
I think you put to much into this change, yah it is an advantage, but I think those who netdeck already uses a range of sites to find decks, and to have your collection on the site you still need to run the tracker. What HSreplay lacks is a community, and you mention reddit as an alternative but I do not think that it is for everyone. People comes to Hearthpwn for a myriad of different reasons, and it think part of it is it being the collection of all the things you mention. Thats is whats sets it apart. Also the way of Hearthpwn have decks is a lot different than HSreplay. Not everyone is interested in the purely numerical stats of HSreplay compared to the more explanative guides here.
Fun topic! Some mods were discussing this on a separate chat actually.
Just my personal thoughts, as a user of HearthPwn. Like what some others mentioned above, HearthPwn is pretty jack-of-all-trades, where this site kind of has it all gathered in one place. In the list of places you mentioned, you will have to go to multiple different sites to use those features. Granted, some of them do have better features - I like HSReplay's card data tracker personally, and I often use VS for meta analysis/netdecking. Even for the weekly card design competitions, there's r/CustomHearthstone which does host its own custom card competitions.
Some things that I can think that's still quite unique to HearthPwn are data-mining of patch details, competition coverage and timely coverage of news articles consolidated in one place, which is something that is still very scattered in r/Hearthstone. In addition to that, as for forums-wise, I still prefer HearthPwn's forum system compared to r/Hearthstone, for the fact that I recognize more people and their comments as opposed to a select few on Reddit simply because there's really too many people there...
So, personally for me, I think HearthPwn will still stick around, as for reasons like I mentioned about the forums. Granted, this forum is always open for practical suggestions for improvements towards HearthPwn, although I honestly can't think of any additional features to be added at the top of my head.
People don't want to use multiple sites and Reddit has a strong association with something that only 'internet people' use. This site is more for the masses, a convenience store.
Another question is if this thread will just disappear.
nowadays hearthpwn is only good for 80g quest trade. it's full of upvoted meme and troll decks now in hearthpwn. if not for the 80g quest, i guess it's goodbye for hearthpwn.
hearthpwn has the best forum software... better than official forums. Also, they cover news, looks better than official channel currently. For decks, it's only better for meme decks. So while hsreplay does some things way better, I still use this website sometimes to share opinions and get news.
Hearthpwn seems to have a much larger variety of decks than HSreplay due to HSReplay showing only the popular decks (treshhold of certain amount of matches and 10 separate pilots before the deck is displayed).
HSReplay is good for getting decks for ranking up, but if I actually want to find wacky decks and have fun, I prefer hearthpwn.
The feature is something we've been wanting to do for a very, VERY long time. There was some effort made to get it working well without taking the site down late last year in one of our dev's off-time. It's not completely working at this stage though and we're trying to shift some gears to see if we can have someone move onto it for however long its going to take to get it out there for everyone.
Provided we come up with a solution that isn't going to take the site down with it, we'll get the feature out there.
I don't have an ETA though so do keep that in mind. There's a lot of cogs we're going to have to align to make it a reality.
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As far as filtering by win-rates goes, it's coming soon. It's another feature we've wanted to do for a long time and a lot of different people have worked on it to make it a reality. I don't have our launch date but you'll see it real soon. Data is all provided by Innkeeper so hopefully we can get even more people running it to make the results that much better.
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Paying people for content is a legal nightmare when you're crossing borders. I can't talk much about it but what I can say is it's a hell of a lot easier when you're dealing with a single country (China). I think we get enough good quality content as-is and people that do provide it are either here out of pure passion or use the platform to help further their own Hearthstone careers which is okay with us provided they follow our rules :D
I do think we can do a better job at promoting good content people are writing here. I honestly need to try and find some more mod power to help out on this end, I think there's people interested out there. I simply can't HearthPwn 24/7 and other things sometimes take priority.
Another question is if this thread will just disappear.
Nah, it's legitimate feedback :D Threads rarely get deleted on the site feedback forums, I usually only lock ones that don't belong here. The only deletions I can think of are troll threads.
Hearthpwn seems to have a much larger variety of decks than HSreplay due to HSReplay showing only the popular decks (treshhold of certain amount of matches and 10 separate pilots before the deck is displayed).
HSReplay is good for getting decks for ranking up, but if I actually want to find wacky decks and have fun, I prefer hearthpwn.
You're not entirely taking advantage of the HSReplay tools then because you can view 'Decks', pick out a class, filter Standard or Wild, sort by win percentage and see all the most relevant decks being played on the meta. I've stumbled on several really good variations of meta decks and anti-meta decks in this way. There still exists that threshold of games played, but then at least you know the deck creator isn't full of crap concerning their win rates (or lack thereof of game played).
I never come here for decks. I come here for news, spotlights and to read forums.
Same as this guy I haven't been using Hearthpwn decks for about 2 years now , I come here daily to see the news or sometimes read these topics altough most are useless and full of stupid things like this topic.
As for Reddit , I never used it in my life and don't know anyone that does really.....
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In the old days, hearthpwn was almost the only site where people can netdeck. If you want to share your deck, you need something to host your deck list, and hearthpwn was the most convenient site to use. The advantage disappeared when Blizzard enabled in-game deck code. You don't need to upload the entire deck to some third-party site; when a friend asks for a deck list, you give them a code; if you want to share your deck, you post the deck code on reddit.
But still, there was one advantage exclusive to hearthpwn: filtering decks with my own collection. Now that hsreplay.net allow uploading your own card collection, this only remaining advantage disappeared. Hsreplay can filter by collection AND by deck winrate in the same time; I don't see how hearthpwn can do better in terms of netdecking.
If people browse news and discuss on reddit, netdeck on hsreplay, watch streams on twitch and videos on youtube - what else could this site provide? I'm really concerned that users of the site may go away gradually if there's nothing EXCLUSIVE TO HEARTHPWN they can find here. The fan creation competition is one thing, but it only attracts a small number of people. This site needs some high-quality contents.
EDIT: I just realized that you mods know the Chinese site iyingdi, so I'll take it as an example. Iyingdi is similar to hearthpwn: it provides everything related to hearthstone - news, netdeck (with guide), database, forum, stream, etc. There are actually a lot of Chinese site with these functions, but what iyingdi has exclusively is high-quality contents. Editors at the site read all submitted deck guides. They only pass the good guides and authors get paid for it (100RMB, approximately 15 US dollar). You can also write other guides (arena guide for instance) and send it to the editors; you'll be paid accordingly. In this way, the front page of iyingdi is always a gather of high-quality contents that is exclusive to the site. I don't know how iyingdi makes money, but guides at iyingdi are entirely free and they don't even have a premium option. I think you mods are acquainted with Bennidge at iyingdi. He can explain how the site works for you. What I see is that iyingdi provides much better Hearthstone-related contents. If they can do it, why can't hearthpwn?
THERE IS NO GAME.
I think you put to much into this change, yah it is an advantage, but I think those who netdeck already uses a range of sites to find decks, and to have your collection on the site you still need to run the tracker. What HSreplay lacks is a community, and you mention reddit as an alternative but I do not think that it is for everyone. People comes to Hearthpwn for a myriad of different reasons, and it think part of it is it being the collection of all the things you mention. Thats is whats sets it apart.
Also the way of Hearthpwn have decks is a lot different than HSreplay. Not everyone is interested in the purely numerical stats of HSreplay compared to the more explanative guides here.
Fun topic! Some mods were discussing this on a separate chat actually.
Just my personal thoughts, as a user of HearthPwn. Like what some others mentioned above, HearthPwn is pretty jack-of-all-trades, where this site kind of has it all gathered in one place. In the list of places you mentioned, you will have to go to multiple different sites to use those features. Granted, some of them do have better features - I like HSReplay's card data tracker personally, and I often use VS for meta analysis/netdecking. Even for the weekly card design competitions, there's r/CustomHearthstone which does host its own custom card competitions.
Some things that I can think that's still quite unique to HearthPwn are data-mining of patch details, competition coverage and timely coverage of news articles consolidated in one place, which is something that is still very scattered in r/Hearthstone. In addition to that, as for forums-wise, I still prefer HearthPwn's forum system compared to r/Hearthstone, for the fact that I recognize more people and their comments as opposed to a select few on Reddit simply because there's really too many people there...
So, personally for me, I think HearthPwn will still stick around, as for reasons like I mentioned about the forums. Granted, this forum is always open for practical suggestions for improvements towards HearthPwn, although I honestly can't think of any additional features to be added at the top of my head.
People don't want to use multiple sites and Reddit has a strong association with something that only 'internet people' use. This site is more for the masses, a convenience store.
Another question is if this thread will just disappear.
Free to try and find a game, dealing cards for sorrow, cards for pain.
nowadays hearthpwn is only good for 80g quest trade. it's full of upvoted meme and troll decks now in hearthpwn. if not for the 80g quest, i guess it's goodbye for hearthpwn.
hearthpwn has the best forum software... better than official forums. Also, they cover news, looks better than official channel currently. For decks, it's only better for meme decks. So while hsreplay does some things way better, I still use this website sometimes to share opinions and get news.
I just wish I could keep my hearthpwn collection updated on Mac.
Hearthpwn seems to have a much larger variety of decks than HSreplay due to HSReplay showing only the popular decks (treshhold of certain amount of matches and 10 separate pilots before the deck is displayed).
HSReplay is good for getting decks for ranking up, but if I actually want to find wacky decks and have fun, I prefer hearthpwn.
The feature is something we've been wanting to do for a very, VERY long time. There was some effort made to get it working well without taking the site down late last year in one of our dev's off-time. It's not completely working at this stage though and we're trying to shift some gears to see if we can have someone move onto it for however long its going to take to get it out there for everyone.
Provided we come up with a solution that isn't going to take the site down with it, we'll get the feature out there.
I don't have an ETA though so do keep that in mind. There's a lot of cogs we're going to have to align to make it a reality.
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As far as filtering by win-rates goes, it's coming soon. It's another feature we've wanted to do for a long time and a lot of different people have worked on it to make it a reality. I don't have our launch date but you'll see it real soon. Data is all provided by Innkeeper so hopefully we can get even more people running it to make the results that much better.
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Paying people for content is a legal nightmare when you're crossing borders. I can't talk much about it but what I can say is it's a hell of a lot easier when you're dealing with a single country (China). I think we get enough good quality content as-is and people that do provide it are either here out of pure passion or use the platform to help further their own Hearthstone careers which is okay with us provided they follow our rules :D
I do think we can do a better job at promoting good content people are writing here. I honestly need to try and find some more mod power to help out on this end, I think there's people interested out there. I simply can't HearthPwn 24/7 and other things sometimes take priority.
I never come here for decks. I come here for news, spotlights and to read forums.