I hate that the theorycrafting and testing takes place without me interacting with the super fresh metagame, seeing the cards for yourself, hearing the sound. All happens on stream instead of in my game.
"Just dont watch" is the same as saying "just dont netdeck". Other people will watch and will have a knowledge advantage. There are already the first decklists posted here.
So I totally agree that one of the most fun experiences (super fresh expansions) is watered down. I wish this would not happen.
It’s not that it kills hype, the irksome bit is that it fast tracks the exploration. Before the set is even launched so many decks have already been seen and playtested.
There is a small window in this game where people are actually being creative before every deck becomes a carbon copy of each other and dull, and these streams shorten that window.
Hate to break it to you, but decks are theorycrafted and playtested in emulators before the release of every expansion, and people look to the pros for decklists on day one. Showing some games on Twitch doesn't change that at all.
It does bother me that Blizzard is showing such blatant favoritism to its precious influencers, but all I have to do is not watch.
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It’s not that it kills hype, the irksome bit is that it fast tracks the exploration. Before the set is even launched so many decks have already been seen and playtested.
There is a small window in this game where people are actually being creative before every deck becomes a carbon copy of each other and dull, and these streams shorten that window.
Hate to break it to you, but decks are theorycrafted and playtested in emulators before the release of every expansion, and people look to the pros for decklists on day one. Showing some games on Twitch doesn't change that at all.
It does bother me that Blizzard is showing such blatant favoritism to its precious influencers, but all I have to do is not watch.
It might be true, but you cant possible claim that emulators have the same reach as youtube videos with combos, sounds, animation. The barrier now is 0, while I would never download an emulator and test myself. And I did not need to in the past cause 98% were just like me and started from scratch with opening the boosters.
It’s not that it kills hype, the irksome bit is that it fast tracks the exploration. Before the set is even launched so many decks have already been seen and playtested.
There is a small window in this game where people are actually being creative before every deck becomes a carbon copy of each other and dull, and these streams shorten that window.
Hate to break it to you, but decks are theorycrafted and playtested in emulators before the release of every expansion, and people look to the pros for decklists on day one. Showing some games on Twitch doesn't change that at all.
It does bother me that Blizzard is showing such blatant favoritism to its precious influencers, but all I have to do is not watch.
It might be true, but you cant possible claim that emulators have the same reach as youtube videos with combos, sounds, animation. The barrier is 0, but I would never download an emulator and test myself. And I did not nees to in the past cause 98% were just like me and started from scratch with openinh the boosters.
Loomineyes has a history of being disingenuous with very simple points, shouldn't be surprised most people are interested in arguementative polemics than the actual issue. On topic, these streams effectively destroy any experimentation most players will or would do. Quite frankly, most people are stupid, if you give them the option of no thinking they will take it. Blizzard and Activision are FULLY AWARE OF THIS, it's called business strategy. Some people really need to get with it, this is how things work.
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I don't understand. Are you mad because Blizzard is promoting their game during an expansion coming up soon? Because you aren't forced to watch the videos, don't watch them if they "ruin the hype."
Yes, for me it is definitely killing the hype. New expansions are about discovery. By the time I will get to play, I will know all the cards and likely decks, after watching many hours of streams. It would be much better if everyone had access on the same day, so we could all start deck building together.
It’s not that it kills hype, the irksome bit is that it fast tracks the exploration. Before the set is even launched so many decks have already been seen and playtested.
There is a small window in this game where people are actually being creative before every deck becomes a carbon copy of each other and dull, and these streams shorten that window.
Hate to break it to you, but decks are theorycrafted and playtested in emulators before the release of every expansion, and people look to the pros for decklists on day one. Showing some games on Twitch doesn't change that at all.
It does bother me that Blizzard is showing such blatant favoritism to its precious influencers, but all I have to do is not watch.
It might be true, but you cant possible claim that emulators have the same reach as youtube videos with combos, sounds, animation. The barrier is 0, but I would never download an emulator and test myself. And I did not nees to in the past cause 98% were just like me and started from scratch with openinh the boosters.
That's not the point.
What I'm saying is that decks will be posted on Hearthpwn and on reddit and all over the place, and people who don't care about or aren't good at deckbuilding are going to go there, as they have with every past expansion.
You are absolutely incorrect if you think 98 percent of anyone has ever built their own decks. The majority of Hearthstone players are simply not capable of it.
The good news is that even the decks from the experts will not be refined at all, even with this tiny head start. There is plenty of room for experimentation.
The meta being solved too quickly is just a factor of the success of the game and the vast numbers that play it. I hope they make it a staple of the game that they go back and buff lacklustre cards from the previous expansion once the new meta starts to get stale. That was a truly great idea from Team5 and it should happen every expansion.
Yeah buffing older expansions is good imo, but lets bring the one example. Did the boomsday buff bring diversity, or just crack the meta? I dont think so it was that impact. Btw streaming pre release is not the problem. The launch will be a New thing too and we have to figure out the decks. The problem is when ppl just blindly listen to streamers and for example hsreplay while other ppl qqing that every body playing meta decks. Many times the meta is just a hype, lets break it together.
It’s not that it kills hype, the irksome bit is that it fast tracks the exploration. Before the set is even launched so many decks have already been seen and playtested.
There is a small window in this game where people are actually being creative before every deck becomes a carbon copy of each other and dull, and these streams shorten that window.
Hate to break it to you, but decks are theorycrafted and playtested in emulators before the release of every expansion, and people look to the pros for decklists on day one. Showing some games on Twitch doesn't change that at all.
It does bother me that Blizzard is showing such blatant favoritism to its precious influencers, but all I have to do is not watch.
It might be true, but you cant possible claim that emulators have the same reach as youtube videos with combos, sounds, animation. The barrier is 0, but I would never download an emulator and test myself. And I did not nees to in the past cause 98% were just like me and started from scratch with openinh the boosters.
That's not the point.
What I'm saying is that decks will be posted on Hearthpwn and on reddit and all over the place, and people who don't care about or aren't good at deckbuilding are going to go there, as they have with every past expansion.
You are absolutely incorrect if you think 98 percent of anyone has ever built their own decks. The majority of Hearthstone players are simply not capable of it.
The good news is that even the decks from the experts will not be refined at all, even with this tiny head start. There is plenty of room for experimentation.
That’s true, if that gets you excited: “refining decks”. Not me, but I’m more of a casual player. The first few weeks of discovery, after a new expansion, are the best. Then things get dull. So, the pre-release streams have reduced the excitement of release day significantly.
They kill it a bit for me. I really love experiencing everything new, the day of the release. So I just avoid Hearthstone videos until the expansion drops.
Anyone else thinks, that all those youtube videos from people which got early access to the new expansion, completly ruin the hype?
I personally watched every video of 2-3 hearthstone youtubers, but for now i will avoid them till 6.8,
Why is blizzard doing this?
So literal troll post. Joins today. Makes 1 thread with 1 post. It's negative. Never responds. Never posts anything else.
Why am i a troll If im just new to the forum? I read every single comment, and it seems like the community is also very splitted in their opinions towards those videos and streams.
As some other mentioned it earlier this is the Problem i have:
HS with the new Expansion will be a lot of new fun! But just for a limited Time. And i feel like If im watching the gameplay right now the time till its getting boring and everything is seen is obviously shorter.
This is no flame-thread at all, i was just curious If im the only one thinking like this :)
Well it sucks knowing that because there's no way to open the packs early for me personally, I know I'll only be able to play hearthstone for only a couple of matches for the first week until it's saturday again. I'd really love it if I could at least open the packs or play a couple of matches.
A tavern brawl which would let you play with the decks of the final reveal livestream or something would seem so much fun to me right now.
I hate that the theorycrafting and testing takes place without me interacting with the super fresh metagame, seeing the cards for yourself, hearing the sound. All happens on stream instead of in my game.
"Just dont watch" is the same as saying "just dont netdeck". Other people will watch and will have a knowledge advantage. There are already the first decklists posted here.
So I totally agree that one of the most fun experiences (super fresh expansions) is watered down. I wish this would not happen.
Occasionally gives helpful advice.
Hate to break it to you, but decks are theorycrafted and playtested in emulators before the release of every expansion, and people look to the pros for decklists on day one. Showing some games on Twitch doesn't change that at all.
It does bother me that Blizzard is showing such blatant favoritism to its precious influencers, but all I have to do is not watch.
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
So literal troll post. Joins today. Makes 1 thread with 1 post. It's negative. Never responds. Never posts anything else.
It might be true, but you cant possible claim that emulators have the same reach as youtube videos with combos, sounds, animation. The barrier now is 0, while I would never download an emulator and test myself. And I did not need to in the past cause 98% were just like me and started from scratch with opening the boosters.
Occasionally gives helpful advice.
Loomineyes has a history of being disingenuous with very simple points, shouldn't be surprised most people are interested in arguementative polemics than the actual issue. On topic, these streams effectively destroy any experimentation most players will or would do. Quite frankly, most people are stupid, if you give them the option of no thinking they will take it. Blizzard and Activision are FULLY AWARE OF THIS, it's called business strategy. Some people really need to get with it, this is how things work.
If you thought you knew what you think I know, then you'd know I knew you knew I know.
I don't understand. Are you mad because Blizzard is promoting their game during an expansion coming up soon? Because you aren't forced to watch the videos, don't watch them if they "ruin the hype."
Yes, for me it is definitely killing the hype. New expansions are about discovery. By the time I will get to play, I will know all the cards and likely decks, after watching many hours of streams. It would be much better if everyone had access on the same day, so we could all start deck building together.
That's not the point.
What I'm saying is that decks will be posted on Hearthpwn and on reddit and all over the place, and people who don't care about or aren't good at deckbuilding are going to go there, as they have with every past expansion.
You are absolutely incorrect if you think 98 percent of anyone has ever built their own decks. The majority of Hearthstone players are simply not capable of it.
The good news is that even the decks from the experts will not be refined at all, even with this tiny head start. There is plenty of room for experimentation.
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
Yeah buffing older expansions is good imo, but lets bring the one example. Did the boomsday buff bring diversity, or just crack the meta? I dont think so it was that impact. Btw streaming pre release is not the problem. The launch will be a New thing too and we have to figure out the decks. The problem is when ppl just blindly listen to streamers and for example hsreplay while other ppl qqing that every body playing meta decks. Many times the meta is just a hype, lets break it together.
That’s true, if that gets you excited: “refining decks”. Not me, but I’m more of a casual player. The first few weeks of discovery, after a new expansion, are the best. Then things get dull. So, the pre-release streams have reduced the excitement of release day significantly.
They kill it a bit for me. I really love experiencing everything new, the day of the release. So I just avoid Hearthstone videos until the expansion drops.
Why am i a troll If im just new to the forum? I read every single comment, and it seems like the community is also very splitted in their opinions towards those videos and streams.
As some other mentioned it earlier this is the Problem i have:
HS with the new Expansion will be a lot of new fun! But just for a limited Time. And i feel like If im watching the gameplay right now the time till its getting boring and everything is seen is obviously shorter.
This is no flame-thread at all, i was just curious If im the only one thinking like this :)
Well it sucks knowing that because there's no way to open the packs early for me personally, I know I'll only be able to play hearthstone for only a couple of matches for the first week until it's saturday again. I'd really love it if I could at least open the packs or play a couple of matches.
A tavern brawl which would let you play with the decks of the final reveal livestream or something would seem so much fun to me right now.
But nope, I'll have to wait for tuesday night.
Something that would hype me up to the max would be if they introduced the preexpansion brawl like they did back in the grandtournament.
i dont know..i preordered after watching those videos