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 I'm glad to see that hearthpwn is still as petty and toxic as ever. Keep it real circle-jerkers in your blatent jealously of a successful hearthstone content creator, it's perfectly in line with the reputation y'all have here.

 I like Regis (150 thousand subscribers) and Kibler (390 thousand) and Trump (769 thousand) but not Zeddy (55 thousand).

Before he switched to making battlegrounds vids my favourite HS YouTuber was Kripparian (900 thousand). 

Hopefully you weren't referring to me specifically but I don't think the jealousy explanation really makes sense, as Zeddy's one of the less successful content creators. And let's face it, he doesn't seem to enjoy his job that much. If I was going to be jealous of any of them it'd be Kibler, I mean have you seen that guy?

 I'm clearly referring to all the people commenting on the first page of this forum, I'd take this oppportunity to go read the first page, then read my comment again. Also your logic that "oh he only has 55 thousand subs, how could anyone be jealous of that", he has success genius, jealous people will always take issue with other's success.  Finally, I find it hilarious that you dismiss the toxicity of the hearthpwn forum community, I was a dedicated poster here for years, just couldn't take the awful takes and blatently bigotry. There's a reason these forums are basically just reddit with even shittier formatting.

 I'm glad to see that hearthpwn is still as petty and toxic as ever. Keep it real circle-jerkers in your blatent jealously of a successful hearthstone content creator, it's perfectly in line with the reputation y'all have here.

Wild is broken beyond repair, that being said the new rogue burgle stuff will make a fun concede deck.  People need to stop pretending Wild is in a playable state and level their expectations to reality.

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I'll wait for the conclusion of the lawsuit. There are definitely 2 sides of this story, and things which are perceived as discrimination can be something else when looking at the whole picture.

I am not saying Blizzard is 100% innocent either, but I do not like how people and companies are judged by the public as soon as a lawsuit is filed and some times even as an investigation STARTS.

 It's your choice to remain willfully ignorant of what the investigation was or not, but pretending like it's as reasonable to assume innocence is simply dishonest.  I'm seeing this so much from this community lately and it's not surprising, but just sad.  I cannot fathom why someone would rather be a corporate bootlicker than show some fucking empathy for human beings.

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Hey Genius, the Salem Witch trials had many years of evidence that the people burned were witches. If you're going to try to pretend your smarter than others, at least do so with a quick proof read and sanity check -- after all they were "trials".  But much like Twitter mob allegations they were made by people with agendas against others.  History isn't scared to repeat itself, which is why we created a justice system, but that doesn't matter to you apparently.

 Literally all evidence to prove witches were witches is false.  This is objective.  That was the point.  You missed the point.

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This community is an embarrassment.  I've read some of the most ignorant comments on this subject imaginable, it's what I've come to expect from y'all but this took it to another level.  Card reveals > people's lives -Hearthpwn community.  

 Accusations are not proof, just because things are alleged to have happened does not mean they did.  The fact that the state is taking the case and not some lawyer looking for a fat payout is weird, could very well mean the case is weak.  But until the court has ruled on the matter, these actions are nonsensical.  Not to mention they don't even accomplish their apparent goal.

 If you want to deny the accusations in their totality, go for it.  That's the kind of "logic" I expect from this morally bankrupt community.  You're not paying attention to reality buds, just your own biases.

 Innocent until proven guilty is the law.  If you think trial by emotional knee jerk reactions is good I urge you to study puritan trials and let me know how fair you think those were.  Spare me your moral high ground nonsense, this is the real world, and in the real world the presumption of innocence is what separates us from the people who burned "witches" at the stake.

 Hey Genius, the salem witch trials, and all trials of that nature, were UNFOUNDED IN ANY EVIDENCE! That's what defined him.  Is that true for this.  Did the State of California not undergo a 2 year investigation?  So your comparison is completely wrong, I wasted my time reading it.  If you think these are just allegations you're hopeless, much like what seems to be the majority of y'all commenting on this at Hearthpwn.  I've been using this place since 2017, but the last year I just stopped cause of y'all, and now I feel so vindicated that was right, seeing all these incredibly moronic takes and lack of understand of reality.  The look is reflective of the community y'all have cultivated.

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This community is an embarrassment.  I've read some of the most ignorant comments on this subject imaginable, it's what I've come to expect from y'all but this took it to another level.  Card reveals > people's lives -Hearthpwn community.  

 Accusations are not proof, just because things are alleged to have happened does not mean they did.  The fact that the state is taking the case and not some lawyer looking for a fat payout is weird, could very well mean the case is weak.  But until the court has ruled on the matter, these actions are nonsensical.  Not to mention they don't even accomplish their apparent goal.

 If you want to deny the accusations in their totality, go for it.  That's the kind of "logic" I expect from this morally bankrupt community.  You're not paying attention to reality buds, just your own biases.

This community is an embarrassment.  I've read some of the most ignorant comments on this subject imaginable, it's what I've come to expect from y'all but this took it to another level.  Card reveals > people's lives -Hearthpwn community.  

The same thing happened with MTG last year, look up Lurrus Companion Vintage ban.  They either don't playtest anywhere near enough, or they are simply ambivalent to what changes these OP cards will make on their respective formats.

You have to ask yourself two questions: do you trust Team 5? Do you trust Team 5 to strike an appropriate balance?

Whatever bias you possess will factor into your answer, but I'll state this: in an expansion about Old Gods, only 1 of the Old Gods is 'kinda' playable.  That's not cynicism.

Hope there's some good opinions out there on this matter still lurking around hearthpwn.

No floppy taco's for me thanks.

1/4 isn't even that bad, and in the late game it's arguably one of the strongest cards a Rogue deck can have outside Galakrond shit.  They did the Miscreant nerf, marginal without destroying the card.

Rogue has a hard time staying on top, due to some hard counters, including Demon Hunter.  It's 1 day after the nerfs, and DH is still stupid strong, as a Rogue main if you think we'll be on top till the next expansion you're dreaming buds.

Still a strong deck though, easy Tier 2.

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Just fucking dust it bro, don't listen to these other people who say things like what a year and see what happens. Dust that shit and get yourself a legendary that isn't complete crap. Do it, don't be a wuss

 lol calling someone a "wus" for collecting a card. this as a card game where you collect cards.  its a part of the point. also playing cards games isnt super crazy manly and butch in the first place so calling someone a wus when WE ARE ALL already doing a nerdy thing is really funny.

 Don't be a wuss means don't listen to the people saying keep a useless card cause "thats how the game works" is pretty good advice.  If you want to keep it fine, but it's unplayable trash and there are plenty of legendaries that are not.  The game is meant to be fun, good luck having fun with that turd except in the greediest of decks, in which case you have better greedy things to do.

tl;dr bad card, dust it, get somethign better.  Anyone saying keep it isn't being realistic with how bad the card is.

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Again, I really think you need to look at this in the context of the other Primes:

Msshi'fin: Nobody's playing this. Druid either goes Big or Spell. Msshi'fin doesn't fit in with either.

Zixor: Is awesome! ...When you get him from an Exotic Mountseller. No Hunter decks are running Exotic Mountseller.

Solarian: What does Highlander Mage do that Spell Mage can't? Not much. In fact, I don't even like seeing this card generated in Spell Mage because I always get worried about it turning off my Apexis Blast... (providing the Albatross didn't do that already)

Murgurgle: Well hey, it's an auto-include in any Paladin deck! ...Paladin blows chunks right now and can't compete on the aggro or control side. 

Reliquary of Souls: In theory a good card, kind of a meme in practice. It just doesn't fit into any viable Priest deck. And you don't want to res it, honestly.

Akama: Not terrible, but Stealth Rogue is outclassed by Galakrond Rogue. And Galakrond Rogue can run better cards than this. So, again, doesn't see much play because it's outclassed.

Ebonlocke: Sure, he's a Quest Warlock staple. Quest Warlock sucks and is vastly inferior to Galakrond Warlock, the deck of choice right now.

Kargath: In the same boat as Murgurgle. Sure, he goes into every Warrior deck. Warrior ain't doing much better than Paladin. Sure, they have decks, at least in theory, but I didn't see a single Warrior deck on the most recent tier list I've seen. And mind you, Pure and Libram Paladin made Tier 4. Before any Warrior deck. Somehow!

Vashj: Has a theorycraft OTK deck that doesn't actually work in practice.

...So, again, why are we only singling out Vashj here? "A theorycraft deck that doesn't actually work" is how I could sum up pretty much any other one of the Prime cards.

 Akama as a card has a 54 percent winrate, and is seeing play in various Rogue decks; I think your "evaluations" are just guesses, but were fun to read at least. 

My estimation is Vashj will see play eventually, but it is certainly not now, most classes can't keep up with the current meta, and Shaman just had an arm cut off.  Play Shaman for fun, and hope for better days.