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You asked why nobody responded to this comment of yours. It's mostly because you're once again creating your own facts to further your weak case.
"Everyone who is ranked 5 and below has every card unlocked." Hyperbole much?
Maybe some of these rank 5 people play for free and they've disenchanted almost everything to create their one favourite deck. More than a few people have climbed to legendary off brand new accounts, without spending a dime, and they did it within a week.
To answer your other question. I have nearly every card in the collection. I lack only two legendaries (Millhouse Manastorm and Tinkmaster Overspark). I have two of every non-legendary. I bought 120 packs early on, but haven't spent a dime since January. I continue to play because there will be more cards to collect. I like collecting. I also continue to play because the game is fun as hell and it continues to remain challenging.
Like I said previously. This game is not pay-to-win, it is only pay-to-get-a-headstart.
Poetic.
Its kinda like saying if you have legendaries you must be like rank 5 and higher. Its simply silly to think. I have a few legendaries and still struggle to rank up. Legendaries dont WIN you the game they help but I have been beaten down by no legendarie decks, simply because the person I was playing - plays better then I do. So I find this topic silly. Getting every card in the game for $35 is ridiculous and NO decent TCG game is like that. If you don't like having to put a bit of money in then don't and go play something else. If you are really dedicated to the game you dont need money but if you cant be as dedicated as someone like trump then spend a bit of money.
While I do agree that this game is F2P and you can get decent decks after a certain amount of time, I do not agree with people saying that Legendaries do not WIN you games at all. Having a staple Legendary is a huge boost to your win rate. In fact, some decks solely rely on that single Legendary as a main win condition (Leeroy - Miracle Rouge). Without them, your win condition is cut-off by a lot. So many times I've seen the game seem to be out of reach for a player but with a topdecked Legendary, he could turn the game around and win in the end. If you have Legendaries and still lose then that's your problem but in the hand of good players they are just devastating.
Hi John. Or Tony. Or Rob. Whatever your name is. I'm so very sorry that I didn't reply to your post the instant you posted it. I was actually at a funeral this afternoon. But I'm home now, so I can attend to the more important things in life, such as responding to your post.
First of all, these "everyone that has every card unlocked" you speak of. They're a tiny minority. And they're a tiny minority that are truly hooked and dedicated to this game. Yes, you would get some people that loved the game so much that they kept playing hard even with no cards to collect, no reason to win gold, etc. I confess I used a superlative when I said "everyone" would get bored and quit.
But how do you think those guys got hooked? Do you think they played a game, went "huh, this is pretty fun", and dropped hundreds of dollars on packs to get all the cards? I don't. I think they played, and liked it, and dropped a few bucks on packs, and got some more packs with gold and arena victories, and enjoyed it even more, and got hardcore into thinking about decks and cards they would need, and spent more money, and so on and so on.
That cycle would never have started if it was just a matter of dropping the price of a game and getting everything handed to you.
I don't believe that very many of these people (who are, as I said, a tiny minority anyway) would have gotten hooked on the game the way they did without the collectible aspect.
There are more than twenty years of history behind this style of game. I remember the Magic: The Gathering craze first sweeping through my circle of friends in 1994 (and I see from Wikipedia that it was first published a year prior to that). And of course trading cards in general date back more than a hundred years. People love collecting these things. You really, really need to think about how much of the appeal of this game you would rip away if you removed the collecting aspect.
You say that you won 1000 games of Hearthstone. I don't know if that's true or if it's a wild exaggeration, but assuming it is true - in the process of getting those 1000 wins, you must have collected a lot of gold. Thousands just from the wins. I would assume thousands more from daily quests. You must have opened a lot of packs with that gold, or completed a lot of arenas and opened the treasure chests.
Tell me, honestly, with your hand on your heart - didn't you enjoy seeing what cards you got to add to your collection?
Things are very simple actually!
Well, of course you are not supposed to play for a month and have all the cards, there are people that started this game many months ago, it is very natural that they will have more cards and probably more competitive decks. That makes this game free to play. If someone has started playing since closed beta, even open beta by now he would probably have many cards and legendaries to play.
Just enjoy this game!
You are the first honest person to actually respond to this thread in a frank and straightforward manner. I do realize that I am basically in a den of lions talking about what's wrong with lions, this being on "HearthPwn" and all, an ultra niche hardcore minority of the overall consumer base.
I hope you realize that the 6-8 people who continually try to pound this thread into the dirt would never agree with the sentiments you just expressed. No matter how blatantly true, they will NEVER EVER admit to what you just said. Which blows my mind.
@Dallasy
For your information, this game is so popular because it is free to play, if it wasn't then you wouldn't play it now
Didn't you know? If there is just ONE DOCUMENTED EXAMPLE of someone with a base deck beating someone with legendaries the theory ILLEGITIMATE AND INVALID.
Did you know that you can go to youtube RIGHT NOW and see a knife juggler EASILY counter Leeroy??? It's on youtube. Again, it can be done. So you are WRONG and none of what you said has any validity.
*sarcasm*
It's hyperbole to say there is a large group of people who have been playing for over 8 months and have spent a fair chunk of change have every card in the game? really? That is a far fetched exaggerated statement?
Lets talk about just these people instead of your usual tactic of trying to find a crack in the semantics of the claim(YOU CANT SAY EVERYONE!!! AND YOU CANT ASSUME!!!!).
Why are they still playing if the only motivation for this game is to open new packs? This thread has claimed the game would die within a month without the motivation of opening new packs because this is a collectible card game. You could NEVER charge a base fee of $35 for a 2d electronic card game that is played on an ipad, a game blizzard invested so little money into stealing pretty much every aspect from previous successful games. They are doing it again with their lame attempt at a copycat moba because startcraft 2 is dying and they are losing their e-sports street cred. Just like hearthstone, they skin it with warcraft and call it a day.
But I digress, the people who own every card still pour hundreds of hours into this game because of ranked. Ranked is the backbone of this game, not opening micro transacted digital cards. Ranked is why they log back in, not useless cards they already own which can never be traded or sold and are worthless the moment you uninstall the game.
speaking of free to play, i just drew a bloodmage thalnos in my 2nd daily pack. lol. of course i DE'd him and crafted TBK as i already had a thalnos. anyhow i think we can agree everything is obtainable over time and that's... really all that needs to be said :D glhf it's just a game.
Wait wait, it's possible to get legendaries without spending any money??And you don't need all legenderies to have fun and have MANY competitive decks? No really? Such good news for our OP, he must be thrilled to understand this basic fact about the game..
Hoped you enjoyed your time with netdeck zoo and huntard.
I have very much fun owning people with a Hunter deck that cost less than 1k dust and I don't even wanna brag about it.
Why do you always leave out the most glaring variable? Amount of Time.
What you are saying is no different then the following statement: You can work minimum wage and afford a Ferrari.
...Don't worry that it will take 35 years.
You conveniently fail to mention the hundreds of hours you need to play and win to meet the current average of 1 legendary per 20 decks. If that 1 legendary is a bum card(as the majority are) you just increased the time needed to play exponentially.
But congrats on the Thalnos pick, now sit back for the next 80 straight games and wait for your single next pack of commons that dust for about 40. Something tells me we won't be seeing you post about that though.
@OP
So you've won 1000+ games and you still don't have all the staple cards, truly impressive.
Hey now, don't burst his bubble, he claims to have 0(yes zero) legendaries buuut 1000 wins, logic is strong ok.
I recieved 3 legendaries all were trash and useless(nat pagle, Greenskin, and vancleef). I have zero because they were dusted.
To be even more accurate I have zero because I uninstalled the game.
:] Alexandra is a very good legendary toi have
Could be worse. Other games don't even give you an option for obtaining legendary type cards other than buying packs for money. It might not be easy or optimal, but at least you have the option. And ultimately you need to realize that this is in fact a money making venture for Blizzard. I have a job, I like HS, so I got no problem spending money on what I like, and if that puts me ahead of the "grinders"........ oh well. I'm happy. Blizzard's happy. That's how business works. Most of what I've read, is about grinding away for hours to get something for free. Be happy you have that option. Grinders certainly aren't making HS any money. Lastly, if a grinder is that put off about the time spent playing to get what they want. Why not instead of wasting hours and hours grinding, you guys go out and do something else that could earn you some real money to buy packs? I mean, if you're grinding that much already, you've already turned something fun into a job, right?
Just the .02 cents rambling around my old head.
You're just lucky. I agree that everything is obtainable over time, but in order to get at least 50% of the legendaries through F2P then it would takes hundreds of hours - or, if you just do dailies, at least a year. They make it so ridiculously hard to get legendaries through gold farming that you're practically required to pay if you want an above-average deck at a reasonable time.