Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in? Ladder Casual Arena Brawl Even Mix
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play? Prove how good I am / can be Build collection Accumulate gold/dust Pure Fun Not sure anymore
Seniority: How long have you been playing? Since the early days 6-12 Months in 6 months or less
Frequency: How often to you play? More than 2 hours a day 1-2 hours a day At least once every other day Couple times a week
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now? Balanced and Fun Too hard for noobs / F2Ps Too random for skilled players Competitive Meta too stale Game modes too limited/flawed
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game? On edge and usually salty Ok, but doesn't take a lot to set me off Fine except for rare circumstances Totally laid back
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in? Ladder
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play? Pure Fun
Seniority: How long have you been playing? Since the early days (Day 1 of Open BETA).
Frequency: How often to you play? 1-2 hours a day
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now? Too hard for F2Ps and new players in general.
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game? On edge when I start to loose. Laid back when I am winning. "God damn it!" When I lost. "Get rekt!" When I win.
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I didn't have a signature so Flux added one for me.
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in? Ladder (used to be arena, still have more arena wins than ladder wins)
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play? Pure Fun (though I play to get as high as I can, having fun is the main reason. I will make sure to do my dailies at least every 3 days even in a busy period, so that's partially obtaining gold/dust I suppose)
Seniority: How long have you been playing? Since the early days
Frequency: How often to you play? 1-2 hours a day
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now? Balanced and Fun
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game? Totally laid back
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in? Arena
I ladder to rank 10 each season and play 10-20 Brawls per week but my passion is mostly for Arena, although this has waned with the proliferation of Draft-Assist utilities helping the weaker players.
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play? Accumulate gold/dust
I have a strong collection, lacking very few noteworthy legends, and intend to keep it that way as further expansions are released.
Seniority: How long have you been playing? Since the early days
Season 2 for me.
Frequency: How often to you play? 1-2 hours a day
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now? Too hard for noobs / F2Ps Too random for skilled players Competitive Meta too stale Game modes too limited/flawed
All of the above! I would like to see nerfs and buffs being far more common (it is easy in an online game and certain cards need nerfing or buffing badly).
I would also love more play modes. 2v2 is my biggest wish by tournament mode and pauper mode would both be welcome additions.
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game? Totally laid back
Tournament mode might induce more stress in me but I've never been on the cusp of legend and losing on 11-2 in Arena is just not worth getting upset about. Ropers will rope but they won't spoil my fun.
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in? Arena (most of the time i play arena, ranked usually only for quests).
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play? Pure Fun (yup, im bored in ranked, i just do quests there or play decks i have fun with, but mostly i play arena, i enjoy that most).
Seniority: How long have you been playing? Since the early days (since free beta).
Frequency: How often to you play? At least once every other day (not so much lately, but at least quests and stuff).
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now? Actually i wouldnt describe the game with none of the options given. Sure all of them are a bit true, but not enought that i would characterize the game as such.
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game? Fine except for rare circumstances (i used to get mad easilly, but im calmer now :)).
Looks like this is running out of steam so I calculated some totals:
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in? 55% Ladder 14% Casual 17% Arena 2% Brawl 12% Even Mix
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play? 19% Prove how good I am / can be 36% Build collection 4% Accumulate gold/dust 32% Pure Fun 9% Not sure anymore
Seniority: How long have you been playing? 64% Since the early days 28% 6-12 Months in 8% 6 months or less
Frequency: How often to you play? 13% More than 2 hours a day 50% 1-2 hours a day 29% At least once every other day 8% Couple times a week
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now? 28% Balanced and Fun 13% Too hard for noobs / F2Ps 20% Too random for skilled players 15% Competitive Meta too stale 25% Game modes too limited/flawed
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game? 8% On edge and usually salty 18% Ok, but doesn't take a lot to set me off 61% Fine except for rare circumstances 13% Totally laid back
So I stepped back to think about the answers and what I expected. Honestly I expected a certain kind of profile to stand out: Ladder-Prove how good-early days-2+ hours a day-too random-often salty. Happy to see this wasn't the case. Perhaps those types don't tend to answer these posts, but I optimistically believe I was just off base.
The next most interesting thing to me is the current opinion of the game. The answers were pretty even, and it seems as though solutions to some of those could come at the expense of others. I appreciate the challenge Blizzard has to address all those, it must be like pushing down bubbles in wallpaper. With some perspective I think the challenge is on us too, to realize we just can't have everything all at once, look at what's there and find the fun. Enough of my soapbox, anyone have any thoughts to add?
This would be great in a poll. There are lots of free online sites for that, and it would be interesting to see the results in total.
Any suggestions for the best ones out there that are free? Sorry to be lazy, but I suspect someone knows off the top of their head good free multi-question survey sites.
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in? Ladder Brawl
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play? Not sure anymore
Seniority: How long have you been playing? Since the early days
Frequency: How often to you play? At least once every other day
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now? Too random for skilled players Competitive Meta too stale Game modes too limited/flawed
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game? Fine except for rare circumstances
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in? Ladder Casual Arena Brawl Even Mix
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play? Prove how good I am / can be Build collection Accumulate gold/dust Pure Fun Not sure anymore
Seniority: How long have you been playing? Since the early days 6-12 Months in 6 months or less
Frequency: How often to you play? More than 2 hours a day 1-2 hours a day At least once every other day Couple times a week
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now? Balanced and Fun Too hard for noobs / F2Ps Too random for skilled players Competitive Meta too stale Game modes too limited/flawed
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game? On edge and usually salty Ok, but doesn't take a lot to set me off Fine except for rare circumstances Totally laid back
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in? Ladder- Historically have played a lot of arena as well, but have found it to be more stale/grindy of late, would rather just try out constructed decks on ladder for fun. Casual Arena Brawl Even Mix
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play? Prove how good I am / can be Build collection- Currently working on crafting golden versions of my main decks. However, did grind to legend a couple months back to prove I could do it. Accumulate gold/dust Pure Fun Not sure anymore
Seniority: How long have you been playing? Since the early days- Downloaded it the first or second day the Mac client became available for Open Beta. 6-12 Months in 6 months or less
Frequency: How often to you play? More than 2 hours a day 1-2 hours a day At least once every other day- Usually to clear quests all in one go on days off from work. Couple times a week
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now? Balanced and Fun Too hard for noobs / F2Ps Too random for skilled players Competitive Meta too stale- Facing Patron and Christmas Pally every game is frustrating, wish some of the lesser played classes were also viable. Game modes too limited/flawed
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game? On edge and usually salty Ok, but doesn't take a lot to set me off- Doesn't feel like there is any environment to play fun decks without running into super tryhard, Tier 1 decks all the time. Fine except for rare circumstances Totally laid back
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in? Arena (Best place for progression, and I always have decks in mind to craft up)
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play? Build collection (this is true for now, but you need another option: Deck building. Some folks like to make new decks)
Seniority: How long have you been playing? Since the early days
Frequency: How often to you play? 1-2 hours a day
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now? Competitive Meta too stale
(Tournament meta too stuck in combo mode with control counters. It actually needs more speed. Reverse issue for Ranked)
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game? Totally laid back
(mostly only get slightly miffed when a deck I make fails, but that's it. )
Pulling this one out of the mothballs and answering it for myself again. Can't believe it's been almost a year -- a lot has changed. What say you?
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in? Ladder Casual Arena Brawl Even Mix (still)
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play? Prove how good I am / can be Build collection Accumulate gold/dust (was build collection, but now its built up well enough) Pure Fun Not sure anymore
Seniority: How long have you been playing? Since the early days 6-12 Months in (more than 12 months but not since the early days) 6 months or less
Frequency: How often to you play? More than 2 hours a day 1-2 hours a day At least once every other day (still) Couple times a week
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now? Balanced and Fun Too hard for noobs / F2Ps Too random for skilled players Competitive Meta too stale Game modes too limited/flawed (still overwhelmingly this)
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game? On edge and usually salty Ok, but doesn't take a lot to set me off (not quite as bad as before, but not quite the answer below) Fine except for rare circumstances Totally laid back
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in? Brawl
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play? Build collection
Seniority: How long have you been playing? Since the early days
Frequency: How often to you play? Couple times a week
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now? Balanced and Fun
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game? Totally laid back
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I am my being, one in that, only onto there before, inch by inch and strive a mile, as none other can do unto. Though I don’t lead the climb, I hold tight, gayly wondrous and catlike, a vessel, a god, an insignificant speck. Truly a remarkable creation of this random existence.
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Ladder
Casual
Arena
Brawl
Even Mix
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Prove how good I am / can be
Build collection
Accumulate gold/dust
Pure Fun
Not sure anymore
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
Since the early days
6-12 Months in
6 months or less
Frequency: How often to you play?
More than 2 hours a day
1-2 hours a day
At least once every other day
Couple times a week
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Balanced and Fun
Too hard for noobs / F2Ps
Too random for skilled players
Competitive Meta too stale
Game modes too limited/flawed
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
On edge and usually salty
Ok, but doesn't take a lot to set me off
Fine except for rare circumstances
Totally laid back
Battletag - AndrewGVN#1607 (Play mostly on NA.)
Twitter - @Andrew_GVN
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My favorite card - Warsong Commander Kappa
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Ladder (and "fun" Brawls)
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Prove how good I am / can be
Build collection
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
Since the early days
Frequency: How often to you play?
At least once every other day
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Balanced and Fun
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
Fine except for rare circumstances
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Ladder
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Pure Fun
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
Since the early days (Day 1 of Open BETA).
Frequency: How often to you play?
1-2 hours a day
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Too hard for F2Ps and new players in general.
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
On edge when I start to loose.
Laid back when I am winning.
"God damn it!" When I lost.
"Get rekt!" When I win.
I didn't have a signature so Flux added one for me.
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Ladder
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Prove how good I am / can be
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
6-12 Months in
Frequency: How often to you play?
More than 2 hours a day
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Too random for skilled players (but mostly balanced imo)
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
Fine except for rare circumstances
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Ladder
(used to be arena, still have more arena wins than ladder wins)
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Pure Fun
(though I play to get as high as I can, having fun is the main reason. I will make sure to do my dailies at least every 3 days even in a busy period, so that's partially obtaining gold/dust I suppose)
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
Since the early days
Frequency: How often to you play?
1-2 hours a day
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Balanced and Fun
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
Totally laid back
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Even Mix
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Prove how good I am / can be (I wanna be the very best... trolololo...)
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
6 months or less
Frequency: How often to you play?
1-2 hours a day (6-7 on weekends)
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Too hard for noobs / F2P
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
Totally laid back
"In this world some people born are like keys that move the world and exist having no connection to the social hierarchy established by man."
Feel free to PM me for help or advice.
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Arena
I ladder to rank 10 each season and play 10-20 Brawls per week but my passion is mostly for Arena, although this has waned with the proliferation of Draft-Assist utilities helping the weaker players.
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Accumulate gold/dust
I have a strong collection, lacking very few noteworthy legends, and intend to keep it that way as further expansions are released.
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
Since the early days
Season 2 for me.
Frequency: How often to you play?
1-2 hours a day
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Too hard for noobs / F2Ps
Too random for skilled players
Competitive Meta too stale
Game modes too limited/flawed
All of the above! I would like to see nerfs and buffs being far more common (it is easy in an online game and certain cards need nerfing or buffing badly).
I would also love more play modes. 2v2 is my biggest wish by tournament mode and pauper mode would both be welcome additions.
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
Totally laid back
Tournament mode might induce more stress in me but I've never been on the cusp of legend and losing on 11-2 in Arena is just not worth getting upset about. Ropers will rope but they won't spoil my fun.
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Arena (most of the time i play arena, ranked usually only for quests).
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Pure Fun (yup, im bored in ranked, i just do quests there or play decks i have fun with, but mostly i play arena, i enjoy that most).
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
Since the early days (since free beta).
Frequency: How often to you play?
At least once every other day (not so much lately, but at least quests and stuff).
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Actually i wouldnt describe the game with none of the options given. Sure all of them are a bit true, but not enought that i would characterize the game as such.
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
Fine except for rare circumstances (i used to get mad easilly, but im calmer now :)).
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Looks like this is running out of steam so I calculated some totals:
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
55% Ladder
14% Casual
17% Arena
2% Brawl
12% Even Mix
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
19% Prove how good I am / can be
36% Build collection
4% Accumulate gold/dust
32% Pure Fun
9% Not sure anymore
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
64% Since the early days
28% 6-12 Months in
8% 6 months or less
Frequency: How often to you play?
13% More than 2 hours a day
50% 1-2 hours a day
29% At least once every other day
8% Couple times a week
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
28% Balanced and Fun
13% Too hard for noobs / F2Ps
20% Too random for skilled players
15% Competitive Meta too stale
25% Game modes too limited/flawed
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
8% On edge and usually salty
18% Ok, but doesn't take a lot to set me off
61% Fine except for rare circumstances
13% Totally laid back
So I stepped back to think about the answers and what I expected. Honestly I expected a certain kind of profile to stand out: Ladder-Prove how good-early days-2+ hours a day-too random-often salty. Happy to see this wasn't the case. Perhaps those types don't tend to answer these posts, but I optimistically believe I was just off base.
The next most interesting thing to me is the current opinion of the game. The answers were pretty even, and it seems as though solutions to some of those could come at the expense of others. I appreciate the challenge Blizzard has to address all those, it must be like pushing down bubbles in wallpaper. With some perspective I think the challenge is on us too, to realize we just can't have everything all at once, look at what's there and find the fun. Enough of my soapbox, anyone have any thoughts to add?
Also, re:
Any suggestions for the best ones out there that are free? Sorry to be lazy, but I suspect someone knows off the top of their head good free multi-question survey sites.
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Ladder
Brawl
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Not sure anymore
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
Since the early days
Frequency: How often to you play?
At least once every other day
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Too random for skilled players
Competitive Meta too stale
Game modes too limited/flawed
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
Fine except for rare circumstances
Meta changes the moment you switch your deck.
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Ladder
Casual
Arena
Brawl
Even Mix
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Prove how good I am / can be
Build collection
Accumulate gold/dust
Pure Fun
Not sure anymore
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
Since the early days
6-12 Months in
6 months or less
Frequency: How often to you play?
More than 2 hours a day
1-2 hours a day
At least once every other day
Couple times a week
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Balanced and Fun
Too hard for noobs / F2Ps
Too random for skilled players
Competitive Meta too stale
Game modes too limited/flawed
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
On edge and usually salty
Ok, but doesn't take a lot to set me off
Fine except for rare circumstances
Totally laid back
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Ladder- Historically have played a lot of arena as well, but have found it to be more stale/grindy of late, would rather just try out constructed decks on ladder for fun.
Casual
Arena
Brawl
Even Mix
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Prove how good I am / can be
Build collection- Currently working on crafting golden versions of my main decks. However, did grind to legend a couple months back to prove I could do it.
Accumulate gold/dust
Pure Fun
Not sure anymore
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
Since the early days- Downloaded it the first or second day the Mac client became available for Open Beta.
6-12 Months in
6 months or less
Frequency: How often to you play?
More than 2 hours a day
1-2 hours a day
At least once every other day- Usually to clear quests all in one go on days off from work.
Couple times a week
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Balanced and Fun
Too hard for noobs / F2Ps
Too random for skilled players
Competitive Meta too stale- Facing Patron and Christmas Pally every game is frustrating, wish some of the lesser played classes were also viable.
Game modes too limited/flawed
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
On edge and usually salty
Ok, but doesn't take a lot to set me off- Doesn't feel like there is any environment to play fun decks without running into super tryhard, Tier 1 decks all the time.
Fine except for rare circumstances
Totally laid back
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Ladder
Arena
Brawl
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
the addiction is real
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
6 months or less
Frequency: How often to you play?
1-2 hours a day
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Balanced and Fun
Competitive Meta too stale
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
Totally laid back
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Arena
(Best place for progression, and I always have decks in mind to craft up)
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Build collection
(this is true for now, but you need another option: Deck building. Some folks like to make new decks)
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
Since the early days
Frequency: How often to you play?
1-2 hours a day
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Competitive Meta too stale
(Tournament meta too stuck in combo mode with control counters. It actually needs more speed. Reverse issue for Ranked)
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
Totally laid back
(mostly only get slightly miffed when a deck I make fails, but that's it. )
One does not simply walk into Mordor,
unless they want to be the best they can be.
Pulling this one out of the mothballs and answering it for myself again. Can't believe it's been almost a year -- a lot has changed. What say you?
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Ladder
Casual
Arena
Brawl
Even Mix (still)
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Prove how good I am / can be
Build collection
Accumulate gold/dust (was build collection, but now its built up well enough)
Pure Fun
Not sure anymore
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
Since the early days
6-12 Months in (more than 12 months but not since the early days)
6 months or less
Frequency: How often to you play?
More than 2 hours a day
1-2 hours a day
At least once every other day (still)
Couple times a week
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Balanced and Fun
Too hard for noobs / F2Ps
Too random for skilled players
Competitive Meta too stale
Game modes too limited/flawed (still overwhelmingly this)
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
On edge and usually salty
Ok, but doesn't take a lot to set me off (not quite as bad as before, but not quite the answer below)
Fine except for rare circumstances
Totally laid back
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Ladder
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Pure Fun
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
6-12 Months in
Frequency: How often to you play?
1-2 hours a day
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Balanced and Fun
Game modes too limited/flawed
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
Fine except for rare circumstances
"We act as who we are, or as gentlemen"
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Ladder
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Pure Fun
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
6-12 Months in
Frequency: How often to you play?
1-2 hours a day
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Balanced and Fun
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
Fine except for rare circumstances
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Brawl
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Build collection
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
Since the early days
Frequency: How often to you play?
Couple times a week
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Balanced and Fun
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
Totally laid back
I am my being, one in that, only onto there before, inch by inch and strive a mile, as none other can do unto. Though I don’t lead the climb, I hold tight, gayly wondrous and catlike, a vessel, a god, an insignificant speck. Truly a remarkable creation of this random existence.
Play Mode: Which mode do you spend a clear majority of time in?
Brawl
Purpose: What is the single biggest reason you play?
Build collection
Seniority: How long have you been playing?
Since the early days
Frequency: How often to you play?
Couple times a week
State of Game: What is your most prevalent opinion of the game right now?
Too random for skilled players
Mood / Saltiness: How do you feel as you play each game?
Ok, but doesn't take a lot to set me off
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