Hey guys, so I recently decided to go for 9/9 golden portraits since some of them are really cool. I was wondering if someone who has done it before could share with me his lists since my games tend to drag a lot. I currently 'farm' at around rank 17 EU. And I decided to pick warlock as my first! Any deck suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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"You betrayed our people to forge your fragile alliances and I will take great pleasure in tearing them apart."
The key for portrait grinding is quick games. Waste as little time as possible each turn, play an aggressive deck (be it aggro or tempo), and if it's clear by turn 6 or 7 that your opponent is going to dig in their heels and play defensively, just concede and go to the next match.
2 wins and 3 concedes with a quick deck in 10 minutes is still better than 1 win with a control deck in 10 minutes, because when you're doing this ranks are pretty meaningless. Plus, free wins for people you concede to!
I've tried to do it one class at a time, but I get so burnt out playing that one class over and over, that I switched to a handful of classes simultaneously, and try to get a few wins each day with each. The progress feels is slower, but I don't get bored as quickly.
For Warlock, something like this should do the trick. I'd swap out the Loatheb because it doesn't contribute to quick games, for a second Power Overwhelming or Ironbeak Owl.
For warlock zoo, obviously, fast wins = profit, since you're farming, you need to get them fast, so using handlock would be time-consuming, and so would be demonlock
The old Zoo got weaker, but you still can build an old version of it and snowball out of control. In any case, i suggest additions like Void Terror, Sea Giant, Sylvanas and of course, the new Imp Boss.
@iMPose thanks for the decklist that you provided ! Will definitely try it out.
@Teskeyben I was doing that initially but after a day full of games in the ladder I wasn't satisfied at all with the win/time ratio, I want something faster and that's why I think I'm going to opt for this boring farm.
Also another question, is my current rank good for farming ? Should I go lower ? or it will be filled with other farmers ? The only reason that I haven't already went lower is because I don't want to 'farm' new players and discourage them.
Also another question, is my current rank good for farming ? Should I go lower ? or it will be filled with other farmers ? The only reason that I haven't already went lower is because I don't want to 'farm' new players and discourage them.
There are lots of farmers around 19 or 20, so I'd stay around 17 or 18. Later in the season, you'll be able to see clear differences. Early in the season, everyone's kind of jumbled together.
From my experience with my f2p-account on NA, there are tons of farmers in rk19/18. Whenever I see that, I rope them... Way to teach manners.
Remember that for every few games they win, they have to concede a few to keep from climbing ranks. So they give out as many free wins to opponents as they win themselves, if not more (because of bonus stars from win streaks).
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From my experience with my f2p-account on NA, there are tons of farmers in rk19/18. Whenever I see that, I rope them... Way to teach manners.
Remember that for every few games they win, they have to concede a few to keep from climbing ranks. So they give out as many free wins to opponents as they win themselves, if not more (because of bonus stars from win streaks).
Well, what if I (and I believe every player with limited access to cards) plays the game to play the game? Gold portrait farmers do the following to me: They give free wins to me, bumping me up while they waste the queuing time. Thanks a lot for making me wait another matching processe. After that, I end up in higher ranks where I have to deal with Sylvanas on 6, Boom on 7 and Ragnaros on 8. Seriously, even my f2p-deck (2 weeks into playing!) is good enough to deal with 1-2 top-tier legendaries (mostly because the people playing lower ranks with those cards suck at playing), but not that many. Eventually I play games until turn 10 just to be crushed by the final Sneed's or something like that.
That happens until I'm back at the levels where I belong and where I meet the wanting-to-win farmers who crush me with fine-tuned meta decks until I'm back at 20. Then I may play 1-2 games against people with limited resources and it all begins again. Thanks very much for making around half of my games complete bullsh**. Winning without playing is as little fun as losing without having a chance because someone wants to have a golden portrait for his/her ego. So yeah, whenever I realize that my opponent is farming (playing up-to-date meta decks with legendaries around rank 20-18) I rope them hard: You have to draw the line somewhere and people destroying the gaming experience for others just because they are too bad at the game to get a worthless optical gimmick while following normal gameplay is way beyond my line.
From my experience with my f2p-account on NA, there are tons of farmers in rk19/18. Whenever I see that, I rope them... Way to teach manners.
Remember that for every few games they win, they have to concede a few to keep from climbing ranks. So they give out as many free wins to opponents as they win themselves, if not more (because of bonus stars from win streaks).
Well, what if I (and I believe every player with limited access to cards) plays the game to play the game? Gold portrait farmers do the following to me: They give free wins to me, bumping me up while they waste the queuing time. Thanks a lot for making me wait another matching processe. After that, I end up in higher ranks where I have to deal with Sylvanas on 6, Boom on 7 and Ragnaros on 8. Seriously, even my f2p-deck (2 weeks into playing!) is good enough to deal with 1-2 top-tier legendaries (mostly because the people playing lower ranks with those cards suck at playing), but not that many. Eventually I play games until turn 10 just to be crushed by the final Sneed's or something like that.
That happens until I'm back at the levels where I belong and where I meet the wanting-to-win farmers who crush me with fine-tuned meta decks until I'm back at 20. Then I may play 1-2 games against people with limited resources and it all begins again. Thanks very much for making around half of my games complete bullsh**. Winning without playing is as little fun as losing without having a chance because someone wants to have a golden portrait for his/her ego. So yeah, whenever I realize that my opponent is farming (playing up-to-date meta decks with legendaries around rank 20-18) I rope them hard: You have to draw the line somewhere and people destroying the gaming experience for others just because they are too bad at the game to get a worthless optical gimmick while following normal gameplay is way beyond my line.
Way to take a stand, I suppose. If nothing else you're principled.
People behave this way (farming) because of an incentive Blizzard put in the game, not because they are scumbags. They can earn this awesome thing by winning 500 ranked games with a class! Most people don't have time to earn those normally, so what's the quickest way to get them?
Blizzard could easily change the requirements for the golden portraits to something like "win 200 games with a class at rank 10 or higher." Instantly, people would quit farming rank 20 and start farming rank 10, leaving ranks 11+ for everyone else to play.
That's the same reason people play Face Hunter, Zoo, and Mech Mage, because wins/time is the only thing incentivized. How you get those wins has no stipulation, so people play the most efficient deck they can. Most people don't have time to play long games to get Legend, so they choose quick ones.
Bigger picture, raging against the behavior of the players is directing your anger at the effect, rather than the cause, which is Blizzard's reward structure.
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People behave this way (farming) because of an incentive Blizzard put in the game, not because they are scumbags. They can earn this awesome thing by winning 500 ranked games with a class! Most people don't have time to earn those normally, so what's the quickest way to get them?
First thanks for your response and I don't think we'll get to common ground here, but the paragraph I cited is the crucial point for that, I think: Hearthstone is a game. You generally (unless you are really good, but then you don't farm for golden portraits at lvl20) cannot gain anything except fun from it. Admittedly, some people might get fun from having golden potraits, but generally they're useless gimmicks. So you're ruining your fun (as mentioned above, farming is not fun) and the fun of others to win a useless gimick that looks cool. And even that is not entirely true, since I always laugh my ass of when I encounter any golden portrait below rank 10 after half of the season: They normally just play terribly because they wasted game time to farm noobs for their shiny appearance.
So basically, yes, they are scumbags: They don't think of themselves that way, but hey, no one wakes up and says to him-/herself: Well, today I'm gonna be an asshole. They think they have their reasons and Blizzard is to blame, but those are just excuses for valueing an optical gimmick higher than playing the game and letting others play half of the price for you since you ruin other people's games. That's one definition of scumbag, whether they think it is or not.
Edit: And it's not remotely comparable with playing face hunter or mech mage. Aggro classes form the baseline of every competitive game: If you don't beat the aggro, your deck is slow and sometimes you cannot afford slowness. Sure, I don't get why people play face hunter in casual since playing to win ranks I can get, but playing that hard to win when there is nothing more to gain is quite strange, but I always assume they got one of the dailies. :) Also, at least you quickly now who wins... As a good limited card number player you often look good against farmers until turn 7 and then are bombarded with top tier legendaries...
Isn't farming boring? What are you going to do once you get this awesome thing? Just sit on it?
Beating up on noobs is just lame. Sure you have an incentive to do it the fastest way, but why not take that quick aggro deck and actually play it through ranked. Not only will you face a genuine challenge, you'll also learn a thing or two about good play, match-ups and card strengths and weaknesses. Sure you'll lose a few more, but the fun per game will be so much more satisfying.
I wonder what game conditioned you to accept such a mindless grind as real gameplay? You say you don't have the time to earn this reward normally, but there you are sitting around wasting your time curb-stomping people who can't fight back. Doesn't that strike you as a contradiction in terms?
Isn't farming boring? What are you going to do once you get this awesome thing? Just sit on it?
Beating up on noobs is just lame. Sure you have an incentive to do it the fastest way, but why not take that quick aggro deck and actually play it through ranked. Not only will you face a genuine challenge, you'll also learn a thing or two about good play, match-ups and card strengths and weaknesses. Sure you'll lose a few more, but the fun per game will be so much more satisfying.
I wonder what game conditioned you to accept such a mindless grind as real gameplay? You say you don't have the time to earn this reward normally, but there you are sitting around wasting your time curb-stomping people who can't fight back. Doesn't that strike you as a contradiction in terms?
Its an achievement. It is not like the game ends then. In my case once i reach a full golden set I am surely going to opt in to arena much more frequently than right now.
Once I met a "farmer" on the asia server. I was playing druid (mostly basic cards, with some Naxx) and my opponent was a paladin. He was playing chargers (wolfrider, bluegill warrior, etc) and weapons. All he did was playing minions/weapons and only went to the face. When I played my belcher, he was still clicking on the face, when he realized it's not working, he traded into the belcher in the worst possible way. He sacrificed more then he needed and wanted to go to the face again. The slime blocked his way so he traded another minion. It was evident that he was not playing attention at all, probably did something else, but it was still a shocking experience. I mean he had golden wolfriders, so he had level 60 warrior at the minimum, but I did not really understand why he did that. I mean I play for fun and he was clearly not having fun, he just did a mindless grind where he did not even pay attention. You can call it an achievement to get golden heros that way, as it takes a lot of time to reach it, but to be honest, I could never do that.
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Hey guys, so I recently decided to go for 9/9 golden portraits since some of them are really cool. I was wondering if someone who has done it before could share with me his lists since my games tend to drag a lot. I currently 'farm' at around rank 17 EU. And I decided to pick warlock as my first! Any deck suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
"You betrayed our people to forge your fragile alliances and I will take great pleasure in tearing them apart."
The key for portrait grinding is quick games. Waste as little time as possible each turn, play an aggressive deck (be it aggro or tempo), and if it's clear by turn 6 or 7 that your opponent is going to dig in their heels and play defensively, just concede and go to the next match.
2 wins and 3 concedes with a quick deck in 10 minutes is still better than 1 win with a control deck in 10 minutes, because when you're doing this ranks are pretty meaningless. Plus, free wins for people you concede to!
I've tried to do it one class at a time, but I get so burnt out playing that one class over and over, that I switched to a handful of classes simultaneously, and try to get a few wins each day with each. The progress feels is slower, but I don't get bored as quickly.
Good luck!
For Warlock, something like this should do the trick. I'd swap out the Loatheb because it doesn't contribute to quick games, for a second Power Overwhelming or Ironbeak Owl.
Feel free to add me if you play on NA! iMPose#1429
Play Zoo.
If you're going for all 9, no offense, but I would just play the game as you normally would. Grinding wins is boring.
For warlock zoo, obviously, fast wins = profit, since you're farming, you need to get them fast, so using handlock would be time-consuming, and so would be demonlock
mfw his Yogg steals my win
The old Zoo got weaker, but you still can build an old version of it and snowball out of control. In any case, i suggest additions like Void Terror, Sea Giant, Sylvanas and of course, the new Imp Boss.
Just play a lot of ranked? roughly 9000 games provided you have a .500 win/loss ratio
Thanks for all the fast responses guys !
@iMPose thanks for the decklist that you provided ! Will definitely try it out.
@Teskeyben I was doing that initially but after a day full of games in the ladder I wasn't satisfied at all with the win/time ratio, I want something faster and that's why I think I'm going to opt for this boring farm.
Also another question, is my current rank good for farming ? Should I go lower ? or it will be filled with other farmers ? The only reason that I haven't already went lower is because I don't want to 'farm' new players and discourage them.
"You betrayed our people to forge your fragile alliances and I will take great pleasure in tearing them apart."
From my experience with my f2p-account on NA, there are tons of farmers in rk19/18. Whenever I see that, I rope them... Way to teach manners.
There are lots of farmers around 19 or 20, so I'd stay around 17 or 18. Later in the season, you'll be able to see clear differences. Early in the season, everyone's kind of jumbled together.
Remember that for every few games they win, they have to concede a few to keep from climbing ranks. So they give out as many free wins to opponents as they win themselves, if not more (because of bonus stars from win streaks).
Feel free to add me if you play on NA! iMPose#1429
Well, what if I (and I believe every player with limited access to cards) plays the game to play the game? Gold portrait farmers do the following to me: They give free wins to me, bumping me up while they waste the queuing time. Thanks a lot for making me wait another matching processe. After that, I end up in higher ranks where I have to deal with Sylvanas on 6, Boom on 7 and Ragnaros on 8. Seriously, even my f2p-deck (2 weeks into playing!) is good enough to deal with 1-2 top-tier legendaries (mostly because the people playing lower ranks with those cards suck at playing), but not that many. Eventually I play games until turn 10 just to be crushed by the final Sneed's or something like that.
That happens until I'm back at the levels where I belong and where I meet the wanting-to-win farmers who crush me with fine-tuned meta decks until I'm back at 20. Then I may play 1-2 games against people with limited resources and it all begins again. Thanks very much for making around half of my games complete bullsh**. Winning without playing is as little fun as losing without having a chance because someone wants to have a golden portrait for his/her ego. So yeah, whenever I realize that my opponent is farming (playing up-to-date meta decks with legendaries around rank 20-18) I rope them hard: You have to draw the line somewhere and people destroying the gaming experience for others just because they are too bad at the game to get a worthless optical gimmick while following normal gameplay is way beyond my line.
Way to take a stand, I suppose. If nothing else you're principled.
People behave this way (farming) because of an incentive Blizzard put in the game, not because they are scumbags. They can earn this awesome thing by winning 500 ranked games with a class! Most people don't have time to earn those normally, so what's the quickest way to get them?
Blizzard could easily change the requirements for the golden portraits to something like "win 200 games with a class at rank 10 or higher." Instantly, people would quit farming rank 20 and start farming rank 10, leaving ranks 11+ for everyone else to play.
That's the same reason people play Face Hunter, Zoo, and Mech Mage, because wins/time is the only thing incentivized. How you get those wins has no stipulation, so people play the most efficient deck they can. Most people don't have time to play long games to get Legend, so they choose quick ones.
Bigger picture, raging against the behavior of the players is directing your anger at the effect, rather than the cause, which is Blizzard's reward structure.
Feel free to add me if you play on NA! iMPose#1429
First thanks for your response and I don't think we'll get to common ground here, but the paragraph I cited is the crucial point for that, I think: Hearthstone is a game. You generally (unless you are really good, but then you don't farm for golden portraits at lvl20) cannot gain anything except fun from it. Admittedly, some people might get fun from having golden potraits, but generally they're useless gimmicks. So you're ruining your fun (as mentioned above, farming is not fun) and the fun of others to win a useless gimick that looks cool. And even that is not entirely true, since I always laugh my ass of when I encounter any golden portrait below rank 10 after half of the season: They normally just play terribly because they wasted game time to farm noobs for their shiny appearance.
So basically, yes, they are scumbags: They don't think of themselves that way, but hey, no one wakes up and says to him-/herself: Well, today I'm gonna be an asshole. They think they have their reasons and Blizzard is to blame, but those are just excuses for valueing an optical gimmick higher than playing the game and letting others play half of the price for you since you ruin other people's games. That's one definition of scumbag, whether they think it is or not.
Edit: And it's not remotely comparable with playing face hunter or mech mage. Aggro classes form the baseline of every competitive game: If you don't beat the aggro, your deck is slow and sometimes you cannot afford slowness. Sure, I don't get why people play face hunter in casual since playing to win ranks I can get, but playing that hard to win when there is nothing more to gain is quite strange, but I always assume they got one of the dailies. :) Also, at least you quickly now who wins... As a good limited card number player you often look good against farmers until turn 7 and then are bombarded with top tier legendaries...
Agree to disagree, then. :-)
Good luck to you.
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I think so! Good luck to you too!
every class: play aggro decks at lower ranks
Isn't farming boring? What are you going to do once you get this awesome thing? Just sit on it?
Beating up on noobs is just lame. Sure you have an incentive to do it the fastest way, but why not take that quick aggro deck and actually play it through ranked. Not only will you face a genuine challenge, you'll also learn a thing or two about good play, match-ups and card strengths and weaknesses. Sure you'll lose a few more, but the fun per game will be so much more satisfying.
I wonder what game conditioned you to accept such a mindless grind as real gameplay? You say you don't have the time to earn this reward normally, but there you are sitting around wasting your time curb-stomping people who can't fight back. Doesn't that strike you as a contradiction in terms?
Its an achievement. It is not like the game ends then. In my case once i reach a full golden set I am surely going to opt in to arena much more frequently than right now.
Once I met a "farmer" on the asia server. I was playing druid (mostly basic cards, with some Naxx) and my opponent was a paladin. He was playing chargers (wolfrider, bluegill warrior, etc) and weapons. All he did was playing minions/weapons and only went to the face. When I played my belcher, he was still clicking on the face, when he realized it's not working, he traded into the belcher in the worst possible way. He sacrificed more then he needed and wanted to go to the face again. The slime blocked his way so he traded another minion. It was evident that he was not playing attention at all, probably did something else, but it was still a shocking experience. I mean he had golden wolfriders, so he had level 60 warrior at the minimum, but I did not really understand why he did that. I mean I play for fun and he was clearly not having fun, he just did a mindless grind where he did not even pay attention. You can call it an achievement to get golden heros that way, as it takes a lot of time to reach it, but to be honest, I could never do that.