This is good. I mean, for those of you who are still outraged, what the fuck were you expecting? Were you seriously expecting them to throw their business plans under the bus and say ''yea, we did it because of China lol'' don't be fucking naive. Given the circumstances, even if the apology was sloppy written, they did the best that they could in a given situation:
- The player still broke the rules so a ban is still in order but cutting it to 6 months seems quite fair
- The casters who had goaded him into saying it are no longer fired, they got their livelihoods back and they are suspended for 6 months
- The winner got to keep his hard earned money
In no reality is this not fair.
No, I wouldn't have recommended them to say they did it because of China, that would have put them in another huge trouble, but the amount of bullshit written around what it seems to be their vision: "to bring the world together through epic entertainment" made me lost the few faith I had in them. Blizzard's president insists they are still commited to their values (Think Globally, Lead Responsibly, and especially, Every Voice Matters) which is 100% false, and instead of avoiding the topic, because their values are too idealistic, impractical and above all else completly unrealistic for what a video game company these days can do without starting a media war with very little chance of winning (at least for good) that could seriously affect all involved professionaly and personally, he tried to demostrate at Blizzard they are just a bunch of very nice people full of values in a poor manner while trying to confuse the audience with constant incosistencies.
These people will continue lying blatantly to people even in the face of armageddon, without any sign of remorse and without any clear change of attitude towards the future. These people are nothing else than a bunch of terrible liars full of fear that constantly understimate others and treat all of them like idiots.
Ok, what would you have done in his place?
Hehe, just give me some time to write what I would have said instead, this is going to be a lot of fun!!! :D :D :D
Hey, as long as your keep in realistic and backed up with arguments take your time and go wild :P
Ok, I have finished. :) I used the original one as a reference, but this one is much shorter and much more concise (although I admit it can be improved). Here we go:
Dear Community,
We at Blizzard are fully sorry for the subsquent events to the Hearthstone Grandmasters tournament this past weekend. On Monday, we made the decision to take action against the professional Hearthstone player and tournament winner Wai Chung, also known as blitzchung, and towards the two shoutcasters, Virtual and Mr. Yee, after Chung shared his position and views about what's happening in Hong Kong on our official braodcast channel.
Thanks to you, we changed our minds and realized there was injustice in our actions, considering the punishment was too harsh. That said, we still believe some kind of action towards them is appropiate, because our platform is not made for political propaganda. The reason is simple: we are just a video game company, and while we, just like most people out there, want everyone's point of view to be listened and respected, we can't allow our corporation image to suffer this kind of damage, but especially, we can't put at risk our employees professional career for being stuck to political activities in which they are not involved.
We now believe that blitzchung should receive his prizing and suspending him for six months is more fair. With regards to the casters, remember their purpose is to keep the event focused on the tournament, which didn't happen here, and so, we are setting their suspension to six months as well, instead of completely firing them from the company.
In the future, we will probably be more severe if a similar situation takes places, mostly because our employees all around the world are our first priority and we can't allow them to feel or being harmed by third party actions.
Thank you for your patience with us as always, we appreciate all of you a lot. You make us grow day by day both professionally and personally and that is invaluable. Again, thanks for everything, we hope you find our actions and the reasons behind them completely fair and reasonable.
Sincerely,
Sherman1986 President of Blizzard Entertainment
XD XD XD
As someone who has worked with PR before I feel obligated to tell you that maybe you've missed your calling with video game development xD
Hehe, I'm studying video game development at University right now and I'm going to release a 3D Tower Defense for mobile very soon. I'm very excited because people in general, especially teenagers, like it a lot. I showed it in a recent exhibition organized by the University and the City Government and a lot of people had the chance to play it, giving me a lot of positive feedback. :D :D :D
I'm ready and willing to bet with you that this will die out post Blizzcon. With new WoW exp, HS set, OW 2 (supposedly, not counting on it) and D4 I doubt that any of the outraged people that you're seeing now will care anymore and many of them who have ''uninstalled and left'' will be back in a heartbeat.
Ok, I have finished. :) I used the original one as a reference, but this one is much shorter and much more concise (although I admit it can be improved). Here we go:
Dear Community,
SN1P SN4P
Sincerely,
Sherman1986 President of Blizzard Entertainment
XD XD XD
Later at Blizzard HQ...
Mister President, a call from China for you...
Sherman: Ok let’s hear what they have to say .
China: Our beloved Leader Mr Xi wants to thank you personally for your fabulous and great Statement. Please just follow the four friendly looking Gentlemen, who should roughly arrive in exactly 60 seconds, to their Van.
Sherman: Well, that went better than expected. Enough time to open the window.
China: Our beloved Leader Mr Xi wants to thank you personally for your fabulous and great Statement. Please just follow the four friendly looking Gentlemen, who should roughly arrive in exactly 60 seconds, to their Van.
Haha, are you implying they would want to kill me? Why? I didn't say anything that could bother them, especially when I made very clear next time the punishment will probably be more severe (which is a nice way to say: "none of you dare to f...k up things again or you will suffer the consequences"). XD XD XD
China: Our beloved Leader Mr Xi wants to thank you personally for your fabulous and great Statement. Please just follow the four friendly looking Gentlemen, who should roughly arrive in exactly 60 seconds, to their Van.
Haha, are you implying they would want to kill me? Why? I didn't say anything that could bother them, especially when I made very clear next time the punishment will probably be more severe (which is a nice way to say: "none of you dare to f...k up things again or you will suffer the consequences"). XD XD XD
I know, but i guess I just tried to make you smile.
(Although it would have been more humorous if you went a bit more ham on China)
China: Our beloved Leader Mr Xi wants to thank you personally for your fabulous and great Statement. Please just follow the four friendly looking Gentlemen, who should roughly arrive in exactly 60 seconds, to their Van.
Haha, are you implying they would want to kill me? Why? I didn't say anything that could bother them, especially when I made very clear next time the punishment will probably be more severe (which is a nice way to say: "none of you dare to f...k up things again or you will suffer the consequences"). XD XD XD
I know, but i guess I just tried to make you smile.
Hahaha, yeah, you made me laugh, don't worry. I'm glad I didn't decide to go mad and attack you with let's say a bit of sarcasm :P, as I would have have done in the past. Supressing certain impulses I'm very used to costs a lot, but you can be totally sure I'm trying and learning. :P :P :P
I'm ready and willing to bet with you that this will die out post Blizzcon. With new WoW exp, HS set, OW 2 (supposedly, not counting on it) and D4 I doubt that any of the outraged people that you're seeing now will care anymore and many of them who have ''uninstalled and left'' will be back in a heartbeat.
I've always argued that the game community, Hearthstone's in particular is reprehensible and vulgar. You're right. You've just confirmed it. Blizzard just have to throw some candy and they'll forget their outrage in an instant. Vulgar means here: without principle, no ethical framework.
There's a difference though. Hong Kong youngsters have my respect in their persistent protest against tyranny. They are very much trying to involve the West. So whilst you and your vulgar kind drool over the next expansion, these kids will keep haunting Blizzard. Rebels with a cause.
You've made your point. So allow me not to respond to your vulgarity anymore.
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I've always argued that the game community, Hearthstone's in particular is reprehensible and vulgar. You're right. You've just confirmed it. Blizzard just have to throw some candy and they'll forget their outrage in an instant. Vulgar means here: without principle, no ethical framework.
Hooghout, why do you keep adding fuel to the fire? Give us a break, please. Really, there is no reason to attack the community all the time, especially when we have nothing to do with the problems you have had or have in real life. It's like you're projecting all the hate you have towards some people you know or you knew into us. :(
I've always argued that the game community, Hearthstone's in particular is reprehensible and vulgar. You're right. You've just confirmed it. Blizzard just have to throw some candy and they'll forget their outrage in an instant. Vulgar means here: without principle, no ethical framework.
Hooghout, why do you keep adding fuel to the fire? Give us a break, please. Really, there is no reason to attack the community all the time, especially when we have nothing to do with the problems you have had or have in real life. It's like you're projecting all the hate you have towards some people you know or you knew into us. :(
Because, like you've said, he is projecting. Hooghout is an idiot who has been doing nothing but raging at the devs and the community since forever. I mean, Sherman, can you really blame him? You yourself told me that you're studying video game development and that you mean to accomplish something in that field. Now imagine that you've decided to be a burden in life and studied something as useless as philosophy. Trust me, you too would have been pissed at everyone around you and grasped at any straw to act superior to everybody else. Hooghout is an insecure, sad little man with delusions of grandeur. That is all there is to the story.
I mean, look at his last post. I didn't say, at any point since joining this forum, that I aim to keep playing Blizzard games and forget about this after Blizzcon. My post history is public, make sure to check it if you don't believe me, yet resident clown here keeps pedaling his own bitter narrative. I can't imagine that anyone here takes anything that he says seriously anymore.
I've always argued that the game community, Hearthstone's in particular is reprehensible and vulgar. You're right. You've just confirmed it. Blizzard just have to throw some candy and they'll forget their outrage in an instant. Vulgar means here: without principle, no ethical framework.
Hooghout, why do you keep adding fuel to the fire? Give us a break, please. Really, there is no reason to attack the community all the time, especially when we have nothing to do with the problems you have had or have in real life. It's like you're projecting all the hate you have towards some people you know or you knew into us. :(
Because, like you've said, he is projecting. Hooghout is an idiot who has been doing nothing but raging at the devs and the community since forever. I mean, Sherman, can you really blame him? You yourself told me that you're studying video game development and that you mean to accomplish something in that field. Now imagine that you've decided to be a burden in life and studied something as useless as philosophy. Trust me, you too would have been pissed at everyone around you and grasped at any straw to act superior to everybody else. Hooghout is an insecure, sad little man with delusions of grandeur. That is all there is to the story.
I mean, look at his last post. I didn't say, at any point since joining this forum, that I aim to keep playing Blizzard games and forget about this after Blizzcon. My post history is public, make sure to check it if you don't believe me, yet resident clown here keeps pedaling his own bitter narrative. I can't imagine that anyone here takes anything that he says seriously anymore.
If that is true, maybe we should cease hostility towards Hooghout and others like him. Of course, I'm not saying we should let ourselves be trampled by these people, no, just that we must try to show we don't have any intention to really harm them, at least most of us. I'm pretty sure behind this keyboard warrior hides a good person, just because he always acts with anger and not malice, which are two totally different things. He is probably very afraid of people like us and he is not going to admit it, so I guess we are the ones who should take the first step. All of this may sound a bit stupid, but really, who the hell cares??? It's time to change how we deal with others in the forum, to make this a better place for everyone. :)
Aaaaaaaaaand there it is, the entire matter is pretty much dead both here and on reddit (where the largest portion of online community is). I didn't even last as long as the firings outrage. Oh, well...back to usual I guess
China: Our beloved Leader Mr Xi wants to thank you personally for your fabulous and great Statement. Please just follow the four friendly looking Gentlemen, who should roughly arrive in exactly 60 seconds, to their Van.
Haha, are you implying they would want to kill me? Why? I didn't say anything that could bother them, especially when I made very clear next time the punishment will probably be more severe (which is a nice way to say: "none of you dare to f...k up things again or you will suffer the consequences"). XD XD XD
And there I was reading that as the four gentlemen being of the "white coats" variety! Lol!
This thread is dead because the debate over whether it’s worth talking about is pretty much over, with only pretty much you here still active in arguing against it. This thread doesn’t serve the purpose that, say, Reddit does in continuing momentum to a large audience and providing news, updates, and pro HK memes. All the arguments for and against are pretty much spent here, so I’m pretty done with this thread as well.
On reddit I see around 8 “hot” posts from the last 24 hours about the issue, each with typically a few hundred comments. It’s not nearly as ubiquitous as before but I hope it stays alive. Also it’s almost certainly going to get a bump right before and during Blizzcon.
Aaaaaaaaaand there it is, the entire matter is pretty much dead both here and on reddit (where the largest portion of online community is). I didn't even last as long as the firings outrage. Oh, well...back to usual I guess
Also I want to mention that for the most part, people aren’t arguing that it will last. They argue that it should. Maybe those same people moved on too quickly and that’s a shame. I know you think it won’t last but I find it questionable that you would take it as a victory that it didn’t. A “I told you so” over the freedom of an oppressed population.
Aaaaaaaaaand there it is, the entire matter is pretty much dead both here and on reddit (where the largest portion of online community is). I didn't even last as long as the firings outrage. Oh, well...back to usual I guess
Also I want to mention that for the most part, people aren’t arguing that it will last. They argue that it should. Maybe those same people moved on too quickly and that’s a shame. I know you think it won’t last but I find it questionable that you would take it as a victory that it didn’t. A “I told you so” over the freedom of an oppressed population.
I don't count this as a victory. Like I've mentioned before, I don't care for what is going on in China. I only cared for the hypocrisy of the outraged HS mob who were talking big game, deleting their accounts, taking it to Blizzard because now, all of a sudden, everyone cares for the freedom of others and it died out in less than a week. Like I've said, outrage monkeys.
Props to those who actually went through with their promises and provided evidence of deleting their accounts and collections as a sign of protest. Also props to those who are working on showing their support of HK at Blizzcon (as long as they don't harass anyone).To everyone else, see you all in December lol
Aaaaaaaaaand there it is, the entire matter is pretty much dead both here and on reddit (where the largest portion of online community is). I didn't even last as long as the firings outrage. Oh, well...back to usual I guess
Also I want to mention that for the most part, people aren’t arguing that it will last. They argue that it should. Maybe those same people moved on too quickly and that’s a shame. I know you think it won’t last but I find it questionable that you would take it as a victory that it didn’t. A “I told you so” over the freedom of an oppressed population.
I don't count this as a victory. Like I've mentioned before, I don't care for what is going on in China. I only cared for the hypocrisy of the outraged HS mob who were talking big game, deleting their accounts, taking it to Blizzard because now, all of a sudden, everyone cares for the freedom of others and it died out in less than a week. Like I've said, outrage monkeys.
Props to those who actually went through with their promises and provided evidence of deleting their accounts and collections as a sign of protest. Also props to those who are working on showing their support of HK at Blizzcon (as long as they don't harass anyone).To everyone else, see you all in December lol
Personally, I'm just waiting for Blizzcon and see what happens there (I wanna know what else Blizzard has to say about the topic). I didn't reinstall Hearthstone yet, neither the Battle.net launcher. ;)
Aaaaaaaaaand there it is, the entire matter is pretty much dead both here and on reddit (where the largest portion of online community is). I didn't even last as long as the firings outrage. Oh, well...back to usual I guess
Well, the community (all around the world) forced Blizzard to reconsider their actions and even when this company's speech about it was very poor, blitzchung accepted the new terms, which are completely reasonable (at least from my point of view). ;) It can be said our labor ended there, because our protest was listened, and it was against Blizzard, not China.
Nothing will happen at Blizzcon. Armchair activists are too lazy to get off their butts, and internet trolls don't come out during sunlight. This topic so dead.
In Out of Cards (the "new" Hearthstone forum), Fluxflashor decided to make fun of China's president Xi Jinping by automatically putting at the bottom of each thread a picture of Winnie the Pooh (because people have been comparing them), which is really dumb if you ask me. As I have said the protest was against Blizzard, not China, but it is more easy for some people to resort to silly insults and encourage stupidity I guess... -.-
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Hehe, I'm studying video game development at University right now and I'm going to release a 3D Tower Defense for mobile very soon. I'm very excited because people in general, especially teenagers, like it a lot. I showed it in a recent exhibition organized by the University and the City Government and a lot of people had the chance to play it, giving me a lot of positive feedback. :D :D :D
Do you think this is over by reducing punishment for Blitzchung? This will continue well after Blizzcon.
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I'm ready and willing to bet with you that this will die out post Blizzcon. With new WoW exp, HS set, OW 2 (supposedly, not counting on it) and D4 I doubt that any of the outraged people that you're seeing now will care anymore and many of them who have ''uninstalled and left'' will be back in a heartbeat.
Later at Blizzard HQ...
Mister President, a call from China for you...
Sherman: Ok let’s hear what they have to say .
China: Our beloved Leader Mr Xi wants to thank you personally for your fabulous and great Statement. Please just follow the four friendly looking Gentlemen, who should roughly arrive in exactly 60 seconds, to their Van.
Sherman: Well, that went better than expected. Enough time to open the window.
Haha, are you implying they would want to kill me? Why? I didn't say anything that could bother them, especially when I made very clear next time the punishment will probably be more severe (which is a nice way to say: "none of you dare to f...k up things again or you will suffer the consequences"). XD XD XD
I know, but i guess I just tried to make you smile.
(Although it would have been more humorous if you went a bit more ham on China)
Hahaha, yeah, you made me laugh, don't worry. I'm glad I didn't decide to go mad and attack you with let's say a bit of sarcasm :P, as I would have have done in the past. Supressing certain impulses I'm very used to costs a lot, but you can be totally sure I'm trying and learning. :P :P :P
I've always argued that the game community, Hearthstone's in particular is reprehensible and vulgar. You're right. You've just confirmed it. Blizzard just have to throw some candy and they'll forget their outrage in an instant. Vulgar means here: without principle, no ethical framework.
There's a difference though. Hong Kong youngsters have my respect in their persistent protest against tyranny. They are very much trying to involve the West. So whilst you and your vulgar kind drool over the next expansion, these kids will keep haunting Blizzard. Rebels with a cause.
You've made your point. So allow me not to respond to your vulgarity anymore.
We make our world significant through the courage of our questions and the depth of our answers.
Hooghout, why do you keep adding fuel to the fire? Give us a break, please. Really, there is no reason to attack the community all the time, especially when we have nothing to do with the problems you have had or have in real life. It's like you're projecting all the hate you have towards some people you know or you knew into us. :(
Because, like you've said, he is projecting. Hooghout is an idiot who has been doing nothing but raging at the devs and the community since forever. I mean, Sherman, can you really blame him? You yourself told me that you're studying video game development and that you mean to accomplish something in that field. Now imagine that you've decided to be a burden in life and studied something as useless as philosophy. Trust me, you too would have been pissed at everyone around you and grasped at any straw to act superior to everybody else. Hooghout is an insecure, sad little man with delusions of grandeur. That is all there is to the story.
I mean, look at his last post. I didn't say, at any point since joining this forum, that I aim to keep playing Blizzard games and forget about this after Blizzcon. My post history is public, make sure to check it if you don't believe me, yet resident clown here keeps pedaling his own bitter narrative. I can't imagine that anyone here takes anything that he says seriously anymore.
If that is true, maybe we should cease hostility towards Hooghout and others like him. Of course, I'm not saying we should let ourselves be trampled by these people, no, just that we must try to show we don't have any intention to really harm them, at least most of us. I'm pretty sure behind this keyboard warrior hides a good person, just because he always acts with anger and not malice, which are two totally different things. He is probably very afraid of people like us and he is not going to admit it, so I guess we are the ones who should take the first step. All of this may sound a bit stupid, but really, who the hell cares??? It's time to change how we deal with others in the forum, to make this a better place for everyone. :)
Aaaaaaaaaand there it is, the entire matter is pretty much dead both here and on reddit (where the largest portion of online community is). I didn't even last as long as the firings outrage. Oh, well...back to usual I guess
And there I was reading that as the four gentlemen being of the "white coats" variety! Lol!
This thread is dead because the debate over whether it’s worth talking about is pretty much over, with only pretty much you here still active in arguing against it. This thread doesn’t serve the purpose that, say, Reddit does in continuing momentum to a large audience and providing news, updates, and pro HK memes. All the arguments for and against are pretty much spent here, so I’m pretty done with this thread as well.
On reddit I see around 8 “hot” posts from the last 24 hours about the issue, each with typically a few hundred comments. It’s not nearly as ubiquitous as before but I hope it stays alive. Also it’s almost certainly going to get a bump right before and during Blizzcon.
Also I want to mention that for the most part, people aren’t arguing that it will last. They argue that it should. Maybe those same people moved on too quickly and that’s a shame. I know you think it won’t last but I find it questionable that you would take it as a victory that it didn’t. A “I told you so” over the freedom of an oppressed population.
I don't count this as a victory. Like I've mentioned before, I don't care for what is going on in China. I only cared for the hypocrisy of the outraged HS mob who were talking big game, deleting their accounts, taking it to Blizzard because now, all of a sudden, everyone cares for the freedom of others and it died out in less than a week. Like I've said, outrage monkeys.
Props to those who actually went through with their promises and provided evidence of deleting their accounts and collections as a sign of protest. Also props to those who are working on showing their support of HK at Blizzcon (as long as they don't harass anyone).To everyone else, see you all in December lol
Personally, I'm just waiting for Blizzcon and see what happens there (I wanna know what else Blizzard has to say about the topic). I didn't reinstall Hearthstone yet, neither the Battle.net launcher. ;)
Well, the community (all around the world) forced Blizzard to reconsider their actions and even when this company's speech about it was very poor, blitzchung accepted the new terms, which are completely reasonable (at least from my point of view). ;) It can be said our labor ended there, because our protest was listened, and it was against Blizzard, not China.
Nothing will happen at Blizzcon. Armchair activists are too lazy to get off their butts, and internet trolls don't come out during sunlight. This topic so dead.
In Out of Cards (the "new" Hearthstone forum), Fluxflashor decided to make fun of China's president Xi Jinping by automatically putting at the bottom of each thread a picture of Winnie the Pooh (because people have been comparing them), which is really dumb if you ask me. As I have said the protest was against Blizzard, not China, but it is more easy for some people to resort to silly insults and encourage stupidity I guess... -.-