-Some of the key differences between tournament and ladder are the ability to ban and the fact that you have to win with all 3 of your decks, which of course affects lineups.
-Springpaw doesn't "destroy" odd paladin, because you're trading two 1/1s for another two and odd paladin can flood more than springpaw can clear. Even if you have hyena up while doing that, odd paladin has tools to easily deal with it.
With the warrior i has 52% hunters which was 21 games. I did win 18 of them ...
As it should be :-) - Warrior is currently the best tool against Hunters.
You're dead wrong, it's not even funny. The fact that you think it's a better tool against hunters than odd paladin shows just how little you know.
Odd paladin doesn't work against mid hunters : secrets and springpaw destroys odd pally early game and then you're pretty much screwed. Only 3 people bring odd pally in HCT america, this must mean something.
Y-you're not actually comparing tournaments to ladder, are you? Oh lord...
What secretS exactly? The top lists run one or no explosive traps if that's what you're thinking.
And yeah hunters having to waste one of their cards from hand to clear a hero power definitely destroys paladin early.
Oh boy, posting memes as old as your mental age again xDDD
Are you gonna run away again because you can't come up with any any actual arguments? :)
Irony is bashing someone's mental age while also using "xDDD"
With the warrior i has 52% hunters which was 21 games. I did win 18 of them ...
As it should be :-) - Warrior is currently the best tool against Hunters.
You're dead wrong, it's not even funny. The fact that you think it's a better tool against hunters than odd paladin shows just how little you know.
Odd paladin doesn't work against mid hunters : secrets and springpaw destroys odd pally early game and then you're pretty much screwed. Only 3 people bring odd pally in HCT america, this must mean something.
Y-you're not actually comparing tournaments to ladder, are you? Oh lord...
What secretS exactly? The top lists run one or no explosive traps if that's what you're thinking.
And yeah hunters having to waste one of their cards from hand to clear a hero power definitely destroys paladin early.
Oh boy, posting memes as old as your mental age again xDDD
Are you gonna run away again because you can't come up with any any actual arguments? :)
Irony is bashing someone's mental age while also using "xDDD"
oMg YoU aRe So HxC!!!11!!11!11!11
Irony is you not being able to spot that the xDDDs were ironic.
My to go to deck is Even Paladin. I have a 70% win rate with it. It is a deck that does well against almost everything. So if you are not a fan of polarised matchups, then this is a deck you will probably enjoy. With this deck you can be the agressor or the defender depending on what fits the situation. Mojomaster Zihi is there for the free wins against Mechathun decks and OTK paladin.
My to go to deck is Even Paladin. I have a 70% win rate with it. It is a deck that does well against almost everything. So if you are not a fan of polarised matchups, then this is a deck you will probably enjoy. With this deck you can be the agressor or the defender depending on what fits the situation. Mojomaster Zihi is there for the free wins against Mechathun decks and OTK paladin.
I like your list. I'm just missing Kangor on mine. And I agree, the more I play it the more I like this deck. Very versatile and quite fun actually.
My to go to deck is Even Paladin. I have a 70% win rate with it. It is a deck that does well against almost everything. So if you are not a fan of polarised matchups, then this is a deck you will probably enjoy. With this deck you can be the agressor or the defender depending on what fits the situation. Mojomaster Zihi is there for the free wins against Mechathun decks and OTK paladin.
I like your list. I'm just missing Kangor on mine. And I agree, the more I play it the more I like this deck. Very versatile and quite fun actually.
Kangor isnt necasery, while in situation it can help you out, it is mostly a lifesteal enabler for the corpsetakers.
My to go to deck is Even Paladin. I have a 70% win rate with it. It is a deck that does well against almost everything. So if you are not a fan of polarised matchups, then this is a deck you will probably enjoy. With this deck you can be the agressor or the defender depending on what fits the situation. Mojomaster Zihi is there for the free wins against Mechathun decks and OTK paladin.
I like your list. I'm just missing Kangor on mine. And I agree, the more I play it the more I like this deck. Very versatile and quite fun actually.
Kangor isnt necasery, while in situation it can help you out, it is mostly a lifesteal enabler for the corpsetakers.
Yes, I've teched a chillblade champion and I also run Tirion. But I might craft him so the deck is a bit more flexible
With the warrior i has 52% hunters which was 21 games. I did win 18 of them ...
As it should be :-) - Warrior is currently the best tool against Hunters.
You're dead wrong, it's not even funny. The fact that you think it's a better tool against hunters than odd paladin shows just how little you know.
Odd paladin doesn't work against mid hunters : secrets and springpaw destroys odd pally early game and then you're pretty much screwed. Only 3 people bring odd pally in HCT america, this must mean something.
Odd Paladin crushes every type of Hunter out there. You can clear three or four Odd Paladin board with secrets, springpaw and Rexxar but Odd Paladin can just create another board. I looked up the stats of Midrange Hunter vs Odd Paladin and it is 55% in favour of Odd Paladin, and that is accounting for trash Odd Paladins. You can easily add 10% more to the winrate if Odd Paladin player is half decent.
As for the tournament, most people didn't bring Odd Paladin cause there are a lot of Control Priest.
With the warrior i has 52% hunters which was 21 games. I did win 18 of them ...
As it should be :-) - Warrior is currently the best tool against Hunters.
You're dead wrong, it's not even funny. The fact that you think it's a better tool against hunters than odd paladin shows just how little you know.
Odd paladin doesn't work against mid hunters : secrets and springpaw destroys odd pally early game and then you're pretty much screwed. Only 3 people bring odd pally in HCT america, this must mean something.
Y-you're not actually comparing tournaments to ladder, are you? Oh lord...
What secretS exactly? The top lists run one or no explosive traps if that's what you're thinking.
And yeah hunters having to waste one of their cards from hand to clear a hero power definitely destroys paladin early.
Oh boy, posting memes as old as your mental age again xDDD
Are you gonna run away again because you can't come up with any any actual arguments? :)
Also, dude thinks that every single meme died 10 years ago. Listen, my friend, there's a difference between a dead meme and an aged meme. Willy Wonka here has aged like fine wine, while Harambe was left to rot in a trench. Check r/comedycemetary or r/funny if you want proof.
What I find most interesting in that graphic is the fact that in all those matches you played, you ended up facing off against Hunter for a humongous 40% of them! That's just insane when you think about it.
I'd love to know where that guy who was complaining that "Hunterstone" wasn't a thing is right about now... lol!
Here I am.
And I admit, Hunter seems to be the vast majority of the Ladder in general, and of course I believe you and others if it seems to be " Hunterstone" for you, and most other players.
But still, for me and others ( I mentioned Viper, in wich channel I am mod in,) can assure you that our Ladder experience ( entered at 2500 now at 600) is dominated by Priests, and Paladin ( lately the Shirvalla , holy wrath,OTK gained a lot of popularity) . Hunter only appears ( like I showed you , I believe it was 7-10%) a normal amount , and seems more of a manageable class.
Also, dude thinks that every single meme died 10 years ago. Listen, my friend, there's a difference between a dead meme and an aged meme. Willy Wonka here has aged like fine wine, while Harambe was left to rot in a trench. Check r/comedycemetary or r/funny if you want proof.
Where did I say that memes died? I just find it amusing because I laughed at the same picture when I was in high school about 8 years ago. It's just typical that younger users are usually the ones who make dumb, nonsensical posts, as shown on these boards.
Man I can't believe someone unironically referred me to reddit, let alone to two subreddits relating to memes. What has this place become...
OKay, I realise that you're too rude and aggressive to be worth talking with, but I'll answer anyway :
1 - yes I compare tournament to ladder cause in current tournaments 80% of the players are playing hunters, so bringing a deck that beat them is a good idea. Odd pally would be played if it was a counter to hunters, period. People prefer OTK pally, and it's not because OTK pally is better against priest, believe me. :)
2 - what secrets? explosive, wandering, freezing, snake trap. add in the early game beasts and you'll have no issue (given the fact that hunter obliterate odd pally in mid game) But maybe you didn't hear about this archetype : check @wirer_HS 's list, he finished #1 legend last season.
3 - side note : the basic of odd decks is to weaken your deck in exchange of a stronger hero power. If your hero power is denied you're in trouble, especially with odd pally whose very goal is to flood the board and get the temp advantage. Remember that nowadays vinecleaver + level up is not available any more so if you don't have the board at turn 5 as an odd pally, things are looking grim for you.
4 - If you're not convinced, I don't really care, I haven't lost a single game vs odd paladin with hunter on my way to legend, so it will take more than your aggressivity and lack of education to make me change my mind.
Telling you you're wrong means I'm aggressive and or rude? My god this SJW bullcrap made people so weak, damn,
Look, just refer to post #21. Atramentar has said everything I wanted to say backed up with statistics, unlike your empty subjective post, which shows that you're wrong on pretty much all of your points.
If you honestly don't understand that tournament and ladder are two entirely different beasts then it's probably not worth wasting more time on you anyway.
Imagine using a stats page as an example without checking the stats first.
Odd Paladin - highest winrate against any hunter deck: 71.4% Odd Quest Warrior - Highest winrate against any Hunter deck: 88.0%
Ouch! That's gotta sting, hey? Maybe next time try reading the stats before making ludicrous claims, kiddo. No wonder people call you a troll... XD
It must be tough having to compensate your reading comprehension with 10 year old memes, huh?
Please refer to Atramebtar's post (which I already referred you to previously) if that is within the grasp of your underdeveloped mind.
Hint: it's in the winrate of odd paladin against every single hunter deck, compared to the winrate of warrior decks against every hunter deck.
Imagine aggressively disagreeing with someone for zero reason other than to be a douche, get proven wrong but statistics that you quote, and then trying to strut around like hot shit...are you high?
It must be tough having to compensate your reading comprehension with 10 year old memes, huh?
Please refer to Atramebtar's post (which I already referred you to previously) if that is within the grasp of your underdeveloped mind.
Hint: it's in the winrate of odd paladin against every single hunter deck, compared to the winrate of warrior decks against every hunter deck.
Imagine aggressively disagreeing with someone for zero reason other than to be a douche, get proven wrong but statistics that you quote, and then trying to strut around like hot shit...are you high?
I was actually drunk when I made that post, yeah. And it still makes more sense than what you just wrote, funny huh?
What statistics proved me wrong? Please elaborate.
Oh boy, posting memes as old as your mental age again xDDD
Are you gonna run away again because you can't come up with any any actual arguments? :)
im not running its just that You always shift the discussion to another direction that doesnt serve the subject and arguing with Drunk is a waste of time .....
Imagine using a stats page as an example without checking the stats first.
Odd Paladin - highest winrate against any hunter deck: 71.4% Odd Quest Warrior - Highest winrate against any Hunter deck: 88.0%
Ouch! That's gotta sting, hey? Maybe next time try reading the stats before making ludicrous claims, kiddo. No wonder people call you a troll... XD
It must be tough having to compensate your reading comprehension with 10 year old memes, huh?
Please refer to Atramebtar's post (which I already referred you to previously) if that is within the grasp of your underdeveloped mind.
Hint: it's in the winrate of odd paladin against every single hunter deck, compared to the winrate of warrior decks against every hunter deck.
I always aim to be thorough, so let's go with your altered version of the stats and double check. And we will use the link provided in Atrementar's comment as you ssuggest.
Odd Paladin stats against the top 3 win rate Hunter decks (attached): - Best winrate: 70.6% - Overall winrate against those top three decks combined : 65.5% winrate
Odd Quest Warrior stats against the top 3 win rate Hunter decks (attached): - Best winrate: 87.4% - Overall winrate against those top three decks combined : 68.1%
So..... I think that pretty much settles that one. But I'm sure you'll try and argue it some more. ^_^
ATTACHMENTS
Odd Quest Warrior Vs Hunter
Odd Paladin Vs Hunter
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
I don't really like "polluting" a post with unrelated content (whether odd paladin is good or not vs hunter) but:
-According to stats, odd paladin has a positive winrate against all hunter archetypes:
https://hsreplay.net/archetypes/216/odd-paladin#tab=matchups
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-117/
-Some of the key differences between tournament and ladder are the ability to ban and the fact that you have to win with all 3 of your decks, which of course affects lineups.
-Springpaw doesn't "destroy" odd paladin, because you're trading two 1/1s for another two and odd paladin can flood more than springpaw can clear. Even if you have hyena up while doing that, odd paladin has tools to easily deal with it.
-Similarly, secrets don't destroy odd paladin, because:
Irony is bashing someone's mental age while also using "xDDD"
oMg YoU aRe So HxC!!!11!!11!11!11
"Odd Paladin is better against Hunter than Odd Warrior..." XD
Irony is you not being able to spot that the xDDDs were ironic.
Imagine thinking a meme is a better argument than actual statistics (take a look at Atramentars post).
No wonder people call you a troll, lol.
Imagine using a stats page as an example without checking the stats first.
Odd Paladin - highest winrate against any hunter deck: 71.4%
Odd Quest Warrior - Highest winrate against any Hunter deck: 88.0%
Ouch! That's gotta sting, hey?
Maybe next time try reading the stats before making ludicrous claims, kiddo.
No wonder people call you a troll... XD
My to go to deck is Even Paladin. I have a 70% win rate with it. It is a deck that does well against almost everything. So if you are not a fan of polarised matchups, then this is a deck you will probably enjoy. With this deck you can be the agressor or the defender depending on what fits the situation. Mojomaster Zihi is there for the free wins against Mechathun decks and OTK paladin.
It must be tough having to compensate your reading comprehension with 10 year old memes, huh?
Please refer to Atramebtar's post (which I already referred you to previously) if that is within the grasp of your underdeveloped mind.
Hint: it's in the winrate of odd paladin against every single hunter deck, compared to the winrate of warrior decks against every hunter deck.
I like your list. I'm just missing Kangor on mine. And I agree, the more I play it the more I like this deck. Very versatile and quite fun actually.
Kangor isnt necasery, while in situation it can help you out, it is mostly a lifesteal enabler for the corpsetakers.
Yes, I've teched a chillblade champion and I also run Tirion. But I might craft him so the deck is a bit more flexible
Odd Paladin crushes every type of Hunter out there. You can clear three or four Odd Paladin board with secrets, springpaw and Rexxar but Odd Paladin can just create another board. I looked up the stats of Midrange Hunter vs Odd Paladin and it is 55% in favour of Odd Paladin, and that is accounting for trash Odd Paladins. You can easily add 10% more to the winrate if Odd Paladin player is half decent.
As for the tournament, most people didn't bring Odd Paladin cause there are a lot of Control Priest.
Also, dude thinks that every single meme died 10 years ago. Listen, my friend, there's a difference between a dead meme and an aged meme. Willy Wonka here has aged like fine wine, while Harambe was left to rot in a trench. Check r/comedycemetary or r/funny if you want proof.
Here I am.
And I admit, Hunter seems to be the vast majority of the Ladder in general, and of course I believe you and others if it seems to be " Hunterstone" for you, and most other players.
But still, for me and others ( I mentioned Viper, in wich channel I am mod in,) can assure you that our Ladder experience ( entered at 2500 now at 600) is dominated by Priests, and Paladin ( lately the Shirvalla , holy wrath,OTK gained a lot of popularity) . Hunter only appears ( like I showed you , I believe it was 7-10%) a normal amount , and seems more of a manageable class.
Where did I say that memes died? I just find it amusing because I laughed at the same picture when I was in high school about 8 years ago. It's just typical that younger users are usually the ones who make dumb, nonsensical posts, as shown on these boards.
Man I can't believe someone unironically referred me to reddit, let alone to two subreddits relating to memes. What has this place become...
Telling you you're wrong means I'm aggressive and or rude? My god this SJW bullcrap made people so weak, damn,
Look, just refer to post #21. Atramentar has said everything I wanted to say backed up with statistics, unlike your empty subjective post, which shows that you're wrong on pretty much all of your points.
If you honestly don't understand that tournament and ladder are two entirely different beasts then it's probably not worth wasting more time on you anyway.
Imagine aggressively disagreeing with someone for zero reason other than to be a douche, get proven wrong but statistics that you quote, and then trying to strut around like hot shit...are you high?
I was actually drunk when I made that post, yeah. And it still makes more sense than what you just wrote, funny huh?
What statistics proved me wrong? Please elaborate.
im not running its just that You always shift the discussion to another direction that doesnt serve the subject and arguing with Drunk is a waste of time .....
I always aim to be thorough, so let's go with your altered version of the stats and double check.
And we will use the link provided in Atrementar's comment as you ssuggest.
Odd Paladin stats against the top 3 win rate Hunter decks (attached):
- Best winrate: 70.6%
- Overall winrate against those top three decks combined : 65.5% winrate
Odd Quest Warrior stats against the top 3 win rate Hunter decks (attached):
- Best winrate: 87.4%
- Overall winrate against those top three decks combined : 68.1%
So..... I think that pretty much settles that one.
But I'm sure you'll try and argue it some more. ^_^