Aggro paladin isn't even that good lol. Murlocs are much better and control warlock crushes this deck.
Aggro paladin is better than murlocks, it is more easy to empty your hand and draw heavy with Divine Favor, this combined with Call to Arms is hard to deck run out of steam.
A control with decent draw can win but other aggro/tempo deck will lose.
My only disapoint is the only deck paladin have now, for paladin I like more midrange/control style.
Exactly right. Murloc Paladin pales into significance in comparison to this deck right now. How anyone can think otherwise is baffling. Although this, of course, is the guy who thought playing Finja in a deck of only 3 other Murlocs, (all who rely on battle cries to be useful), was a good idea. Lol!
Aggro paladin isn't even that good lol. Murlocs are much better and control warlock crushes this deck.
Aggro paladin is better than murlocks, it is more easy to empty your hand and draw heavy with Divine Favor, this combined with Call to Arms is hard to deck run out of steam.
A control with decent draw can win but other aggro/tempo deck will lose.
My only disapoint is the only deck paladin have now, for paladin I like more midrange/control style.
Exactly right. Murloc Paladin pales into significance in comparison to this deck right now. How anyone can think otherwise is baffling. Although this, of course, is the guy who thought playing Finja in a deck of only 3 other Murlocs, (all who rely on battle cries to be useful), was a good idea. Lol!
You're just plain wrong. But if you want to bring up old threads where you recommend truesilver (not that you know what truesilver is called) over rallying blade feel free. I doubt you will since you ignore almost everything I post because I usually point out how wrong you are. That deck was running 10 murlocs (excluding finja), but feel free to make up something to prove your point. I think it's kind of silly to lie in your own thread though. Although I do think it's funny you even count up the murlocs (wrongly) in the thread to bring up the finja point. That thread just reads like you don't know what you're talking about, since rallying blade has been used in all versions of aggressive paladin over the past year.
Defile and Hellfire absolutely wreck aggro paladin, and control/cube warlock is one of the strongest decks right now. Murloc paladin has the edge at the top levels,
The divine favor argument honestly doesn't make much sense because if you wanted to you can run a lot of copies of the cheap murlocs and go the divine favor route too. The point is with murlocs you actually can bump their HP up to avoid the large amount of AOE clears in the game.
Aggro paladin is a deck where shadow word horror can wipe their whole board. It's a strong deck against other board decks because of how fast it is, but if you play at the high ranks (hard to tell because every time you post you never say your rank) you'll notice a lot of control warlock and priest, decks that can punish you very fast for going all in.
The deck is popular of course because it's Aggro and it's new. And that's always what happens at the start of the expansion. However if you really think a deck full of 1/1s and 2/2s has staying power in a control meta, then you really don't know what you're talking about.
Can you guess which deck people have been bringing to tournaments? Xixo just won Seatstory cup with Murloc Paladin in his lineup. And which paladin deck did Love U Lots bring? Yep, murlocs again. Murloc Paladin was the most played paladin deck of seatstory. Only Ekop brought aggro paladin and he didn't even make top 8. Should I post in this thread once the world championship happens and show its results? Bring up any top legend streamer and keep track of how many times aggro paladin comes up. It's not not happening.
Of course most of the points I'm making will be lost on you since you won't respond, but hey, at least the rest of the people who read your thread can know some of your previous expertise on paladin. Unlike you I actually respond to threads where people address me.
You can hate on the deck if you want but if you're going to make an argument against someone at least make some points yourself otherwise you just look like an idiot.
Aggro paladin isn't even that good lol. Murlocs are much better and control warlock crushes this deck.
Aggro paladin is better than murlocks, it is more easy to empty your hand and draw heavy with Divine Favor, this combined with Call to Arms is hard to deck run out of steam.
A control with decent draw can win but other aggro/tempo deck will lose.
My only disapoint is the only deck paladin have now, for paladin I like more midrange/control style.
I don't understand this post. You can run more 1 drop murlocs and run divine favor too. Murloc paladin of course also runs call to arms. Please tell me what the benefit is.
What you're getting with Aggro paladin is a slightly faster spread out board, that can be stronger against other aggressive decks at the cost of being extremely vulnerable to area effect.
You can't say Aggro paladin is better than murlocs because of cards that can be used in both decks.
It's been a while since I blocked that Gabugga troll guy, but the interesting thing is that I still get notified when he replies to my posts (which is refreshingly regular - it's nice to have a stalker).
Fortunately I get protected from whatever inane drivel he actually writes - although it's pretty safe to assume what it contains. Most likely some self-righteous rant about how I am wrong about something, and how I have to make up stuff to "believe whatever I want to believe", but yet will still try and labour the point by posting links to other threads or misrepresenting facts, etc.
And I am sure there will be at least one mention in there somewhere of me not responding to him for whatever reason. And a few other baseless insults here and there, just because #troll.
The funniest bit will be the fact that he still probably is even trying to claim that Paladin Aggro isn't very good just because he probably thinks low-cost minions are bad - even though the facts are presented in the OP itself. But he won't listen to that sort of logical reason, because he never has before. Fortunately his track-record on knowing anything about Paladin decks is pretty well-notedly poor. So I guess we have little to worry about.
Good times. It's nice to have a fan, I suppose. :-)
It's been a while since I blocked that Gabugga troll guy, but the interesting thing is that I still get notified when he replies to my posts (which is refreshingly regular - it's nice to have a stalker).
Fortunately I get protected from whatever inane drivel he actually writes - although it's pretty safe to assume what it contains. Most likely some self-righteous rant about how I am wrong about something, and how I have to make up stuff to "believe whatever I want to believe", but yet will still try and labour the point by posting links to other threads or misrepresenting facts, etc.
And I am sure there will be at least one mention in there somewhere of me not responding to him for whatever reason. And a few other baseless insults here and there, just because #troll.
Good times. It's nice to have a fan, I suppose. :-)
It is pretty pathetic to ignore someone and then still talk about them. When you make a thread you open yourself up to criticism on the points you made. and if you don't want to address them why make threads in the first place? You are obviously still reading my post given what you've said above, but you've decided to be immature and not actually respond to the points I made. I made legitimate points in my threads about the power of this deck, and I'm sure other people will respond, but when you hold your hands up to your ears and dance around the conversation it just reads like trolling.
If you want to ignore me then ignore me. That's fine, but then ignore me, don't post about me. That is basically the opposite of ignoring me, and kind of reminds me of the people who add you in hearthstone just to insult you and then remove you before you can respond.
Lol, the guy is still trying to reply to me, even though I literally just said I don't see anything he actually writes.
In any case, getting the thread back on track here. I've noticed a surge in more aggro decks recently while playing this deck - which has made for some interesting race matches against other decks. There were a couple of Paladin Murloc decks actually - these didn't last more than a couple of rounds before auto conceeding, lol.
As mentioned many times before, though, Warlock control is still overpowered at present and seems to beat every deck thrown at it thus far.
Lol, the guy is still trying to reply to me, even though I literally just said I don't see anything he actually writes.
In any case, getting the thread back on track here. I've noticed a surge in more aggro decks recently while playing this deck - which has made for some interesting race matches against other decks. There were a couple of Paladin Murloc decks actually - these didn't last more than a couple of rounds before auto conceeding, lol.
As mentioned many times before, though, Warlock control is still overpowered at present and seems to beat every deck thrown at it thus far.
Lol, the guy is still trying to reply to me, even though I literally just said I don't see anything he actually writes.
In any case, getting the thread back on track here. I've noticed a surge in more aggro decks recently while playing this deck - which has made for some interesting race matches against other decks. There were a couple of Paladin Murloc decks actually - these didn't last more than a couple of rounds before auto conceeding, lol.
As mentioned many times before, though, Warlock control is still overpowered at present and seems to beat every deck thrown at it thus far.
Lol - It's funny how you're not even aiming any comments at this guy and he's still raging. Makes for a nice salti read.
I found the new cancer at rank 5 is kingsbane mill rogue... First time i properly raged at the game in a while, even more than cubelock when they cube doom guard.
Though today i mind controlled their cube and my grand archivist used my other mind control on their other one. I'm not one to usually spam emotes, but i've never pressed the "Thank you" emote so much.
I don't know how I'm raging in my posts but ok. I think I made a lot of points about what I think about aggro paladin and they just get completely ignored by the OP. If you read what he said he specifically mentions things I said in my own post, he's just trying to troll me in his own thread for some reason.
I came into this thread to discuss what I think about aggro paladin, but it looks like it's just turning into a joke.
It's been a while since I blocked that Gabugga troll guy, but the interesting thing is that I still get notified when he replies to my posts (which is refreshingly regular - it's nice to have a stalker).
Fortunately I get protected from whatever inane drivel he actually writes - although it's pretty safe to assume what it contains. Most likely some self-righteous rant about how I am wrong about something, and how I have to make up stuff to "believe whatever I want to believe", but yet will still try and labour the point by posting links to other threads or misrepresenting facts, etc.
And I am sure there will be at least one mention in there somewhere of me not responding to him for whatever reason. And a few other baseless insults here and there, just because #troll.
Good times. It's nice to have a fan, I suppose. :-)
It is pretty pathetic to ignore someone and then still talk about them. When you make a thread you open yourself up to criticism on the points you made. and if you don't want to address them why make threads in the first place? You are obviously still reading my post given what you've said above, but you've decided to be immature and not actually respond to the points I made. I made legitimate points in my threads about the power of this deck, and I'm sure other people will respond, but when you hold your hands up to your ears and dance around the conversation it just reads like trolling.
It's been a while since I blocked that Gabugga troll guy, but the interesting thing is that I still get notified when he replies to my posts (which is refreshingly regular - it's nice to have a stalker).
Fortunately I get protected from whatever inane drivel he actually writes - although it's pretty safe to assume what it contains. Most likely some self-righteous rant about how I am wrong about something, and how I have to make up stuff to "believe whatever I want to believe", but yet will still try and labour the point by posting links to other threads or misrepresenting facts, etc.
And I am sure there will be at least one mention in there somewhere of me not responding to him for whatever reason. And a few other baseless insults here and there, just because #troll.
Good times. It's nice to have a fan, I suppose. :-)
It is pretty pathetic to ignore someone and then still talk about them. When you make a thread you open yourself up to criticism on the points you made. and if you don't want to address them why make threads in the first place? You are obviously still reading my post given what you've said above, but you've decided to be immature and not actually respond to the points I made. I made legitimate points in my threads about the power of this deck, and I'm sure other people will respond, but when you hold your hands up to your ears and dance around the conversation it just reads like trolling.
^Raging
Mega rage! How dare I tell someone to discuss their thread topic with me!
It's been a while since I blocked that Gabugga troll guy, but the interesting thing is that I still get notified when he replies to my posts (which is refreshingly regular - it's nice to have a stalker).
Fortunately I get protected from whatever inane drivel he actually writes - although it's pretty safe to assume what it contains. Most likely some self-righteous rant about how I am wrong about something, and how I have to make up stuff to "believe whatever I want to believe", but yet will still try and labour the point by posting links to other threads or misrepresenting facts, etc.
And I am sure there will be at least one mention in there somewhere of me not responding to him for whatever reason. And a few other baseless insults here and there, just because #troll.
Good times. It's nice to have a fan, I suppose. :-)
It is pretty pathetic to ignore someone and then still talk about them. When you make a thread you open yourself up to criticism on the points you made. and if you don't want to address them why make threads in the first place? You are obviously still reading my post given what you've said above, but you've decided to be immature and not actually respond to the points I made. I made legitimate points in my threads about the power of this deck, and I'm sure other people will respond, but when you hold your hands up to your ears and dance around the conversation it just reads like trolling.
It's been a while since I blocked that Gabugga troll guy, but the interesting thing is that I still get notified when he replies to my posts (which is refreshingly regular - it's nice to have a stalker).
Fortunately I get protected from whatever inane drivel he actually writes - although it's pretty safe to assume what it contains. Most likely some self-righteous rant about how I am wrong about something, and how I have to make up stuff to "believe whatever I want to believe", but yet will still try and labour the point by posting links to other threads or misrepresenting facts, etc.
And I am sure there will be at least one mention in there somewhere of me not responding to him for whatever reason. And a few other baseless insults here and there, just because #troll.
Good times. It's nice to have a fan, I suppose. :-)
It is pretty pathetic to ignore someone and then still talk about them. When you make a thread you open yourself up to criticism on the points you made. and if you don't want to address them why make threads in the first place? You are obviously still reading my post given what you've said above, but you've decided to be immature and not actually respond to the points I made. I made legitimate points in my threads about the power of this deck, and I'm sure other people will respond, but when you hold your hands up to your ears and dance around the conversation it just reads like trolling.
^Raging
Mega rage! How dare I tell someone to discuss their thread topic with me!
I hate to tell you this buddy, but when you call someone pathetic, immature etc, you aren't exactly opening up a discussion.. If you want to have a discussion with someone, that's not the way to go about it
The first thing that was said about me in this thread was him insulting me, even though all I said was my initial opinion of aggro paladin. And then I respond to that and give my full impression and get a response about him ignoring me.
I think what I said was pretty light in comparison but you can think what you want. I just wanted to give my opinion and I already gave it. It can be ignored but in a month when Aggro paladin is nowhere to be seen on ladder or in tournaments it won't be ignored by the OP. I'm pretty surprised that everyone is ignoring that is was almost nowhere to be seen at seatstory and that murloc paladin was in the winning lineup.
I actually think Big Spell Mage is right on the cusp of having the tools it needs to manage Aggro Paladin. I had decent success playing that match-up because of how much AOE I had access to, but ended up stopping with Big Spell Mage because I couldn't deal with other decks like Cubelock. Cubelock, by the way, has access to Defile, which can stall Aggro Paladin out until big taunts start dropping. They also have Dark Pact for massive heals. Shaman would also be a good candidate for counters if this deck really becomes so powerful that it beats any deck without sufficient AOE.
Honestly, though, I don't think it's as bad a Pirate Warrior was. Pre-nerf Fiery War Axe combined with Bloodsail Raider was devastating as an early game play, and Warrior has weapons like Arcanite Reaper to clean up in the mid to late game. Aggro Paladin is really good, but it's not nearly as awful as older version of aggro have been.
Lol - It's funny how you're not even aiming any comments at this guy and he's still raging. Makes for a nice salti read.
I found the new cancer at rank 5 is kingsbane mill rogue... First time i properly raged at the game in a while, even more than cubelock when they cube doom guard.
Though today i mind controlled their cube and my grand archivist used my other mind control on their other one. I'm not one to usually spam emotes, but i've never pressed the "Thank you" emote so much.
I know what you mean about the Kingsbane deck. It is definitely infuriating when you're trying to play any sort of late game control style deck. I tried it myself, but just can't seem to get it to work for me - I almost never see the dagger in most games. Not even with the deck-delver minions. Heh! I guess there must be a specific knack to it that I haven't mastered yet.
Whenever I play against opponents playing this deck, they have the dagger in their hands by turn 2/3 without fail most of the time. And yeah, it's a completely triggering deck when they are flinging 9+ lifesteal damage around. Lol
Lol - It's funny how you're not even aiming any comments at this guy and he's still raging. Makes for a nice salti read.
I found the new cancer at rank 5 is kingsbane mill rogue... First time i properly raged at the game in a while, even more than cubelock when they cube doom guard.
Though today i mind controlled their cube and my grand archivist used my other mind control on their other one. I'm not one to usually spam emotes, but i've never pressed the "Thank you" emote so much.
I know what you mean about the Kingsbane deck. It is definitely infuriating when you're trying to play any sort of late game control style deck. I tried it myself, but just can't seem to get it to work for me - I almost never see the dagger in most games. Not even with the deck-delver minions. Heh! I guess there must be a specific knack to it that I haven't mastered yet.
Whenever I play against opponents playing this deck, they have the dagger in their hands by turn 2/3 without fail most of the time. And yeah, it's a completely triggering deck when they are flinging 9+ lifesteal damage around. Lol
Exactly! I got kingsbane as the free weapon - so it was one of the first decks i played, and i barely saw the thing!
I played a game last night and he got his weapon (With lifesteal) up to 15 Damage... I'm lucky to hit 3, lol.
Haha! Totally know what you mean there. I guess I just need some more practice with it to know which cards to mulligan for etc.
I actually think Big Spell Mage is right on the cusp of having the tools it needs to manage Aggro Paladin. I had decent success playing that match-up because of how much AOE I had access to, but ended up stopping with Big Spell Mage because I couldn't deal with other decks like Cubelock. Cubelock, by the way, has access to Defile, which can stall Aggro Paladin out until big taunts start dropping. They also have Dark Pact for massive heals. Shaman would also be a good candidate for counters if this deck really becomes so powerful that it beats any deck without sufficient AOE.
Honestly, though, I don't think it's as bad a Pirate Warrior was. Pre-nerf Fiery War Axe combined with Bloodsail Raider was devastating as an early game play, and Warrior has weapons like Arcanite Reaper to clean up in the mid to late game. Aggro Paladin is really good, but it's not nearly as awful as older version of aggro have been.
Not sure if Big Mage (the one with Alanna and Scroll of Wonders) can be a consistent enough deck to play it on ladder. It might do well against aggro, but it flops against almost everything else. Cubelock, however, is an amazing anti-paladin deck. I won almost every game I played vs aggrodin. Between Mistress of Mixtures, Plated Beetle, Defiles, Hellfires, Mortal Coils, 3/9 demons that you can pull out with your weapon or Cabal Lackey and if you need you can also clone them with cubes and ressurect with Guldan - I usually get concedes after I pull out my first big demon or after it's getting cubed.
People will always play aggressive strategies in hearthstone. if you don't like it quit. The only cancer is people like you posting threads on hearthpwn comparing one the most worlds most devastating illnesses to a kids game.
Wow. Way to lower the mood there, Blackbeard... ^_^
It's just a game, you know...
In any case, I should have to do this... but whenever someone misunderstands what the word cancer actually means, it's good to have the below image for reference. The word cancer has more than one meaning, Mr Freud... In games etc, the second part is referred to...
You can repeat that as many times as you want. People simply prefer to feign offense to the word and act sensitive. I'm not sure if the language barrier is too damn thick, but they won't get it anyway. I should be glad my mother tongue also uses cancer to describe malign things...
They aren't feigning, the gravity of certain words differs from culture to culture. In the Netherlands, it is considered one of the worst things to say, a real social faux pas, as serious as using the n-word in public in America.
''Cunt'', on the other hand, is considered harmless and part of a lot of people's everyday vocabulary. Men and women.
Hmmm. Possibly - but I have found that I am dead by turn 5/6. So not sure I would be able to get him out in time?
Then you didn't draw your Doomsayer. Defile is often enough a full board clear too, which works pretty good against all the 1 and 2 HP minions from Aggro Pala. Aggro Pala is pretty meh against the two big Control classes Warlock and Priest in my experience: You fill the board --> AoE = board gone. You fill the board again --> AoE = board gone. You fill the board again --> AoE = board gone. etc. etc.
Blizzard should make a special stream lessons or youtube videos in which they explain the the only way hs should be played is with supa dupa 1000 IQ control/combo homebrewed decks and 30 minutes long match is a minimum time period that proves you're not braindead blah blah something etc.
Honestly, i would rather say that the deck reminds me of zoo.
The deck aren't really centered against hitting your opponent's face as fast and as hard as possible early on. It's way more the type of deck like zoo, that control the board, until they have enough tempo to end the game in a turn or two.
The deck also requires a lot more of decision making, as you have to find the exact time where you want to switch from controlling the board, to going face instead. If you do it too early, you end up not having enough stuff to push back with, if you however do it too late, your tempo might be ruinted by board clears, large taunts, or large amounts of health gain.
You know what I hate. Is when people say decks in Hearthstone take skill. Like decks that play themselves ;looking at you every Aggro deck; or those Control gods that sit their and think they’re superior; like seriously the only decision making Priest’s have to make is which of the 8 board clears do I use right now until I can play my combo and win. Or aggro hmmm which over started minion should I play on curve right now like seriously Hearthstone takes no skill. Why do you think pros are leaving .
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Although this, of course, is the guy who thought playing Finja in a deck of only 3 other Murlocs, (all who rely on battle cries to be useful), was a good idea. Lol!
It's been a while since I blocked that Gabugga troll guy, but the interesting thing is that I still get notified when he replies to my posts (which is refreshingly regular - it's nice to have a stalker).
Fortunately I get protected from whatever inane drivel he actually writes - although it's pretty safe to assume what it contains. Most likely some self-righteous rant about how I am wrong about something, and how I have to make up stuff to "believe whatever I want to believe", but yet will still try and labour the point by posting links to other threads or misrepresenting facts, etc.
And I am sure there will be at least one mention in there somewhere of me not responding to him for whatever reason. And a few other baseless insults here and there, just because #troll.
The funniest bit will be the fact that he still probably is even trying to claim that Paladin Aggro isn't very good just because he probably thinks low-cost minions are bad - even though the facts are presented in the OP itself. But he won't listen to that sort of logical reason, because he never has before. Fortunately his track-record on knowing anything about Paladin decks is pretty well-notedly poor. So I guess we have little to worry about.
Good times. It's nice to have a fan, I suppose. :-)
Lol, the guy is still trying to reply to me, even though I literally just said I don't see anything he actually writes.
In any case, getting the thread back on track here. I've noticed a surge in more aggro decks recently while playing this deck - which has made for some interesting race matches against other decks. There were a couple of Paladin Murloc decks actually - these didn't last more than a couple of rounds before auto conceeding, lol.
As mentioned many times before, though, Warlock control is still overpowered at present and seems to beat every deck thrown at it thus far.
I actually think Big Spell Mage is right on the cusp of having the tools it needs to manage Aggro Paladin. I had decent success playing that match-up because of how much AOE I had access to, but ended up stopping with Big Spell Mage because I couldn't deal with other decks like Cubelock. Cubelock, by the way, has access to Defile, which can stall Aggro Paladin out until big taunts start dropping. They also have Dark Pact for massive heals. Shaman would also be a good candidate for counters if this deck really becomes so powerful that it beats any deck without sufficient AOE.
Honestly, though, I don't think it's as bad a Pirate Warrior was. Pre-nerf Fiery War Axe combined with Bloodsail Raider was devastating as an early game play, and Warrior has weapons like Arcanite Reaper to clean up in the mid to late game. Aggro Paladin is really good, but it's not nearly as awful as older version of aggro have been.
And yeah, it's a completely triggering deck when they are flinging 9+ lifesteal damage around. Lol
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