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Looks awesome! :) Did the moderators give the ok for the use of Murlocs?

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Looks awesome! :) Did the moderators give the ok for the use of Murlocs?

 Asylum_Rhapsody hasn't answered me yet, but I don't see any other way to give Bard a Murloc card, without calling something a murloc that isn't a murloc...

If it helps my case at all, the concept of a "Tidesinger" is completely made up and doesn't exist in WoW.

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One quick thing for the masterpieces: tokens created by cards shouldn't have a rarity. For example Lantern of Power (from Arch-Thief Rafaam) has no rarity, as opposed to a legendary rarity that people often assume when making cards.

 I don't think there's any good rule for tokens having rarities, since some have them but others dont:

Finkle Einhorn

Ashbringer

Baine Bloodhoof

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One quick thing for the masterpieces: tokens created by cards shouldn't have a rarity. For example Lantern of Power (from Arch-Thief Rafaam) has no rarity, as opposed to a legendary rarity that people often assume when making cards.

 I don't think there's any good rule for tokens having rarities, since some have them but others dont:

Finkle Einhorn

Ashbringer

Baine Bloodhoof

 Thanks for posting this.  I didn't want to feel like I had to go re-do all 12 of my Wish Spells.  lol, that's too much work just to change a rarity gem.

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Token rarities are pretty arbitrary also for non-legendary minions. Many tokens have the same rarity as their collectible card, but most of them don't. I would not worry much about it since Blizzard doesn't either.

If someone found a significant pattern about how token rarities are declared, please share. The only thing I could find is that tokens never have a higher rarity than the collectible card, always lower or the same (I think).

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One quick thing for the masterpieces: tokens created by cards shouldn't have a rarity. For example Lantern of Power (from Arch-Thief Rafaam) has no rarity, as opposed to a legendary rarity that people often assume when making cards.

 I don't think there's any good rule for tokens having rarities, since some have them but others dont:

Finkle Einhorn

Ashbringer

Baine Bloodhoof

 Also, here are a few examples for non-legendary tokens that break the rule:

Imps from Imp Master are also rare.

Spirit Wolf from Feral Spirit.

Damaged Golem and Harvest Golem.

Shadow of Nothing and Mindgames.

Spellbender's token.

Hyena from Savannah Highmane.

Nerubian from Nerubian Egg.

Squire from Silver Hand Knight or Recruiter.

Also there is like a dozen other tokens with the white gem mostly created by cards of higher rarity.

 

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That is an interesting point... Could it be that Blizzard's rule of thumb for Token rarity gems are none for spells. but gems on minions/weapons?

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But since Hearthcards sometimes doesn't allow the emblem without a rarity gem, I just put rarity gems on everything. :P

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Apparently, there is an option to "force" the emblem, but it doesn't always work. I guess you *could* manually edit the emblem in, but it really doesn't seem worth it.

Regarding the whole token rarity thing, I feel like since it doesn't actually impact the gameplay it's best to go with what is most flavorful, which is a pretty fundamental hearthstone design principle. And since these two songs are called the "Masterpieces" then I feel like it's fitting that they be these two Legendary pieces of music.

Regarding the Murloc thing, normally I would agree that everything from the class has to be outside of the WoW universe, but then you can't create murloc cards unless you give something the race of "Murloc" that isn't actually a murloc, and that feels more wrong to me than making an exception in the rules. And while this card could easily be something other than a Murloc, it would defeat the purpose of the card.

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Regarding the whole token rarity thing, I feel like since it doesn't actually impact the gameplay it's best to go with what is most flavorful, which is a pretty fundamental hearthstone design principle. And since these two songs are called the "Masterpieces" then I feel like it's fitting that they be these two Legendary pieces of music.

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One quick thing for the masterpieces: tokens created by cards shouldn't have a rarity. For example Lantern of Power (from Arch-Thief Rafaam) has no rarity, as opposed to a legendary rarity that people often assume when making cards.

 I don't think there's any good rule for tokens having rarities, since some have them but others dont:

Finkle Einhorn

Ashbringer

Baine Bloodhoof

 Thanks for posting this.  I didn't want to feel like I had to go re-do all 12 of my Wish Spells.  lol, that's too much work just to change a rarity gem.

 You do, spell tokens from Legendaries never have a rarity. See my above post.

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Token rarities are pretty arbitrary also for non-legendary minions. Many tokens have the same rarity as their collectible card, but most of them don't. I would not worry much about it since Blizzard doesn't either.

If someone found a significant pattern about how token rarities are declared, please share. The only thing I could find is that tokens never have a higher rarity than the collectible card, always lower or the same (I think).

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One quick thing for the masterpieces: tokens created by cards shouldn't have a rarity. For example Lantern of Power (from Arch-Thief Rafaam) has no rarity, as opposed to a legendary rarity that people often assume when making cards.

 I don't think there's any good rule for tokens having rarities, since some have them but others dont:

Finkle Einhorn

Ashbringer

Baine Bloodhoof

 Also, here are a few examples for non-legendary tokens that break the rule:

Imps from Imp Master are also rare.

Spirit Wolf from Feral Spirit.

Damaged Golem and Harvest Golem.

Shadow of Nothing and Mindgames.

Spellbender's token.

Hyena from Savannah Highmane.

Nerubian from Nerubian Egg.

Squire from Silver Hand Knight or Recruiter.

Also there is like a dozen other tokens with the white gem mostly created by cards of higher rarity.

 Again, every single one of those is a minion. What I said always holds for spell tokens. It also holds true for non-legendary spell tokens:

 

 

And the Spare Parts. So, that's every single spell token card in the game from collectible cards (the ones from non-collectibles obviously don't have rarities). None have a rarity.

 You said tokens, not token spells.

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Regarding the whole token rarity thing, I feel like since it doesn't actually impact the gameplay it's best to go with what is most flavorful, which is a pretty fundamental hearthstone design principle. And since these two songs are called the "Masterpieces" then I feel like it's fitting that they be these two Legendary pieces of music.

But isn't the most important Hearthstone design principle to stick to how Blizzard designs Hearthstone cards? We just established that token spells never have a rarity. You don't need a legendary rarity on a token to know its from a legendary card, anyway. Also, I disagree with the assertion that you should try to make things as flavorful as possible. In that case, you should be adding flavor text directly to every card like what is on Power Overwhelming and Dr. Boom. Simplicity is actually the most important Hearthstone design principle. And it's simpler that spell tokens don't have rarities. Very simple rule.