I'm a new player that are looking forward to playing a rogue as my main (preferably miracle rogue). I know it's kinda out-of-meta now but that's not matters for me.
I've been searching for the builds around Youtube or community site and most of them are the same build but contain some different such as Xaril , Violet Teacher or N'zoth . but they're always have 1 Shiv and 1 Shadowstrike in their deck. but can I replace those 2 with x2 Shadowstep ?
my friend said to me that's it's kinda risk to remove Shadowstrike as it can help you to control the field in the early-game by finished off HP 5-6 minions and shiv is good for a quick draw in a turn when needed . but isn't Shadowstep can be synergize with like Thalnos , SI:7 , Xaril or Jenkins to make a stronger result ?
so that's my question maybe too long because I'm new and it's quite hard to explain things now . thanks
TL;DR : Is "Shadowstep" can replace "Shiv" and "Shadowstrike" in miracle rogue ? . thanks
Uh...shadowstep can be good if you run multiple charge minions. I never really liked shiv to begin with to be honest. 2x shadowstep might be a little overkill, but a good way to think about shadowstep is extra damage at the cost of consistency. It can add a little extra burst, but you might struggle a bit more against some matchups.
Uh...shadowstep can be good if you run multiple charge minions. I never really liked shiv to begin with to be honest. 2x shadowstep might be a little overkill, but a good way to think about shadowstep is extra damage at the cost of consistency. It can add a little extra burst, but you might struggle a bit more against some matchups.
Shadow Step SI:7: Your spending a card and 1 mana for 2 dmg. Your basically turing Shadow Step into a Holy Smite. Shadow Strike: You spend a card and 3 mana for 5 dmg. Shiv: Your cycling one card and paying 2 mana to deal 1 dmg. Cycling cards is huge for a combo deck like Miracle Rogue you want to draw through your deck as fast as possible.
Shadow Step Xaril: Your spending a card and 2 mana to get a random. A two mana random card is probably not worth it.
Shadow step is pretty much only used for lethal with Leeroy, and I wouldn't recommend putting more then one in your deck.
I have seen some Miracle lists without Shadow Strike. You can find decklists on Hearthpwn.
Well, as a rogue player i can say that although it might look like a good idea, it is often better to have good removal such as shadowstrike (who can for exemple deal with a Thing from Below easily) and "cycling" cards such as shiv that you can use with spell damage or just to draw your combo with Auctionneer.
Another point is that you often put Auctioneer on an empty board, and the shadowsteps will just stay in your hand
"Is "Shadowstep" can replace "Shiv" and "Shadowstrike" in miracle rogue ?"
nice inglish veri gud
You do realize that this person is quite obviously not a native speaker, yet they have the courage to come here and try to ask us something, right? The English is not perfect, but it's understandable and that's all that matters. This is hearthpwn boards, not a college application essay, geez.
ps. I'm bad at English's grammar , it's not my first language and that topic's name is kinda typo error rather than grammatical error because I was dizzy back then lol .
I'm a new player that are looking forward to playing a rogue as my main (preferably miracle rogue). I know it's kinda out-of-meta now but that's not matters for me.
I've been searching for the builds around Youtube or community site and most of them are the same build but contain some different such as Xaril , Violet Teacher or N'zoth . but they're always have 1 Shiv and 1 Shadowstrike in their deck. but can I replace those 2 with x2 Shadowstep ?
my friend said to me that's it's kinda risk to remove Shadowstrike as it can help you to control the field in the early-game by finished off HP 5-6 minions and shiv is good for a quick draw in a turn when needed . but isn't Shadowstep can be synergize with like Thalnos , SI:7 , Xaril or Jenkins to make a stronger result ?
so that's my question maybe too long because I'm new and it's quite hard to explain things now . thanks
TL;DR : Is "Shadowstep" can replace "Shiv" and "Shadowstrike" in miracle rogue ? . thanks
Uh...shadowstep can be good if you run multiple charge minions. I never really liked shiv to begin with to be honest. 2x shadowstep might be a little overkill, but a good way to think about shadowstep is extra damage at the cost of consistency. It can add a little extra burst, but you might struggle a bit more against some matchups.
Uh...shadowstep can be good if you run multiple charge minions. I never really liked shiv to begin with to be honest. 2x shadowstep might be a little overkill, but a good way to think about shadowstep is extra damage at the cost of consistency. It can add a little extra burst, but you might struggle a bit more against some matchups.
Think about it like this:
Shadow Step SI:7: Your spending a card and 1 mana for 2 dmg. Your basically turing Shadow Step into a Holy Smite. Shadow Strike: You spend a card and 3 mana for 5 dmg. Shiv: Your cycling one card and paying 2 mana to deal 1 dmg. Cycling cards is huge for a combo deck like Miracle Rogue you want to draw through your deck as fast as possible.
Shadow Step Xaril: Your spending a card and 2 mana to get a random. A two mana random card is probably not worth it.
Shadow step is pretty much only used for lethal with Leeroy, and I wouldn't recommend putting more then one in your deck.
I have seen some Miracle lists without Shadow Strike. You can find decklists on Hearthpwn.
Well, as a rogue player i can say that although it might look like a good idea, it is often better to have good removal such as shadowstrike (who can for exemple deal with a Thing from Below easily) and "cycling" cards such as shiv that you can use with spell damage or just to draw your combo with Auctionneer.
Another point is that you often put Auctioneer on an empty board, and the shadowsteps will just stay in your hand
So yes, but it will make the deck more quirky
Thanks everyone , you guys help me a lot :D
ps. I'm bad at English's grammar , it's not my first language and that topic's name is kinda typo error rather than grammatical error because I was dizzy back then lol .