Wait...control beats aggro?? Have you even played the game in the last 3 years, including now? Aggro has had and continues to have the upper hand on control for a long time now. In most games and in past years of HS, when you boardclear an aggro deck once or even twice, then it's game over and control wins. But not in Hearthstone. WAY WAY too easy to refill the board these days. Hence control loses to aggro most of the time in HS.
If control loses to everything why play it? Because it doesn't and unless you run the greediest list you actually win against aggro "most" of the time (which means more than 50%).
The folks suggesting that "Druid is dead" really ought to check out the sites which track the game. Spiteful Druid (59%, 400,000 games) was the top deck on HSReplays about an hour ago, and has been bouncing around the top three spots since this past weekend. Over the past four days, the deck has been piloted to #1 Legend in both EU and NA. Taunt Druid seems perfectly fine as well (51%, 200,000 games.)
It gets less diverse as you go up ranks. HOWEVER I feel like it's finally possible to do well with non meta decks. This expansion added a ton of deck building possibilities that aren't as strong as cubelock or aggro paladin, but still strong enough to ladder with. I'm happy with that. That's all I really want in HS.
Hadronox taunt druid shits all over cubelock, spiteful AND aggro pala/hunter fyi.
Just try it.
Nah, I'd say hadronox druid is slightly unfavored vs cubelock. I'm going to legend using taunt druid right now and my wr versus cubelock was really good to start with but around rank 3 or 4 as the cubelock players finally became competant it really tanked.
I haven't read too much of this thread, but yesterday, 11 of my 15 games were against cubelock lol. Two days ago (when you made the post), I played 12 games and didn't face the same deck more than 3 times. I think there were 3 cubelock, 2 secret/spell hunter, 2 rogue, 2 mage, and 3 paladin, so that day was kinda diverse I guess.
I still face cubelock all the time because I guess people play it because it's able to beat paladin and other control decks (since it's the strongest control/combo deck, arguably). And it's essentially the same deck it's been the past few months lol. I wouldn't really call the meta diverse, it's more cubelock today than it was before Witchwood (in my experience). Maybe it'll diversify in time, but for now it's same old, same old.
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Playing at rank 1-2 now for the past 2 days (think I got about 30 games in). And I agree the meta is diverse. I Played the least against Shaman, Mage and Priest. Baku Rogue and Taunt Druid seem to be the up-and-comers of the last two days. Faced quite some cubelocks two days ago but yesterday hardly any (which made me sad because I switched my Big Hunter for Spiteful Priest yesterday for that match-up).
I do think that the diversity is there because of the novelty of the expansion. I expect it to be less so when the meta settles.
Logged in this morning and saw this on the home screen... thought to myself "Oh wow, what a fun bunch of varied decks." (also please excuse that the photo quality and that they are side-ways. I am not image-editing for a hearthpwn forum post.)
I'm not all negative though. I am a big fan of the even/odd design, but it sucks to see people sticking to the most boring hero power. Played an odd-pally dual last night, and what an exciting race of 1/1's that was!
It's awesome to see tech cards and classic cards find their way in after the rotation and with these new odd/even. However, I greatly hope that in a week's time we'll start seeing something besides pally, lock, priest and hunter.
feels like the meta did not change a bit since the addon, still aggropala, spiteful priest and warlock on top, almost playing identical decks as before:D glad i did not buy any packs this xpac, usually preordered every xpac, had a good time with my midrange pala the first couple days, did a good climb but now its basically impossible 2 climb any further with a selfmade deck. aggrodecks are 2 fast, controldecks have 2 muchb value with their manacheat cards. wont play until nerfs occure, hopefully they will allow other decks 2 be played aswell.
I disagree as the dominant decks 5 decks are essentially the same as last rotation: Aggro Pally, Mid-range Pally, Cube, Spiteful Deck #1 Spiteful Deck #2.
yeah I totally see you there! Currently i am super happy, that paladin has so much love, cuz thats the easiest games to win for me with rogue
im actually wondering how this can still work - maybe the percentage comes from lower ranks or so? i dunno - but paladin is getting so much hate matchups already, or they dont tech correctly against them, i dunno
The folks suggesting that "Druid is dead" really ought to check out the sites which track the game. Spiteful Druid (59%, 400,000 games) was the top deck on HSReplays about an hour ago, and has been bouncing around the top three spots since this past weekend. Over the past four days, the deck has been piloted to #1 Legend in both EU and NA. Taunt Druid seems perfectly fine as well (51%, 200,000 games.)
It gets less diverse as you go up ranks. HOWEVER I feel like it's finally possible to do well with non meta decks. This expansion added a ton of deck building possibilities that aren't as strong as cubelock or aggro paladin, but still strong enough to ladder with. I'm happy with that. That's all I really want in HS.
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Current Standard Deck: Kolento's Big Shaman:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1267569-big-shaman
I haven't read too much of this thread, but yesterday, 11 of my 15 games were against cubelock lol. Two days ago (when you made the post), I played 12 games and didn't face the same deck more than 3 times. I think there were 3 cubelock, 2 secret/spell hunter, 2 rogue, 2 mage, and 3 paladin, so that day was kinda diverse I guess.
I still face cubelock all the time because I guess people play it because it's able to beat paladin and other control decks (since it's the strongest control/combo deck, arguably). And it's essentially the same deck it's been the past few months lol. I wouldn't really call the meta diverse, it's more cubelock today than it was before Witchwood (in my experience). Maybe it'll diversify in time, but for now it's same old, same old.
Twitch name: Anatak15
NA Legend Season 48, 49, 52, 53, 54, 74
Playing at rank 1-2 now for the past 2 days (think I got about 30 games in). And I agree the meta is diverse. I Played the least against Shaman, Mage and Priest. Baku Rogue and Taunt Druid seem to be the up-and-comers of the last two days. Faced quite some cubelocks two days ago but yesterday hardly any (which made me sad because I switched my Big Hunter for Spiteful Priest yesterday for that match-up).
I do think that the diversity is there because of the novelty of the expansion. I expect it to be less so when the meta settles.
Logged in this morning and saw this on the home screen... thought to myself "Oh wow, what a fun bunch of varied decks."
(also please excuse that the photo quality and that they are side-ways. I am not image-editing for a hearthpwn forum post.)
I'm not all negative though. I am a big fan of the even/odd design, but it sucks to see people sticking to the most boring hero power. Played an odd-pally dual last night, and what an exciting race of 1/1's that was!
It's awesome to see tech cards and classic cards find their way in after the rotation and with these new odd/even. However, I greatly hope that in a week's time we'll start seeing something besides pally, lock, priest and hunter.
^this:D
feels like the meta did not change a bit since the addon, still aggropala, spiteful priest and warlock on top, almost playing identical decks as before:D glad i did not buy any packs this xpac, usually preordered every xpac, had a good time with my midrange pala the first couple days, did a good climb but now its basically impossible 2 climb any further with a selfmade deck. aggrodecks are 2 fast, controldecks have 2 muchb value with their manacheat cards. wont play until nerfs occure, hopefully they will allow other decks 2 be played aswell.
I disagree as the dominant decks 5 decks are essentially the same as last rotation: Aggro Pally, Mid-range Pally, Cube, Spiteful Deck #1 Spiteful Deck #2.
yeah I totally see you there! Currently i am super happy, that paladin has so much love, cuz thats the easiest games to win for me with rogue
im actually wondering how this can still work - maybe the percentage comes from lower ranks or so? i dunno - but paladin is getting so much hate matchups already, or they dont tech correctly against them, i dunno
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Current Standard Deck: Kolento's Big Shaman:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1267569-big-shaman
Just played against 3 cubelocks over my lunch break =(. Ugh I wish I could experience this diverse meta everyone else is seeing haha.
Twitch name: Anatak15
NA Legend Season 48, 49, 52, 53, 54, 74