[Legend 71% win]Guldan the teddy killer
- Last updated Sep 4, 2017 (Frozen Throne)
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Wild
- 18 Minions
- 11 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Control Warlock
- Crafting Cost: 11280
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 8/18/2017 (Frozen Throne)
- jainaishot
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Total Deck Rating
765
Hi mates, this is the second deck i post this week and it's the most effective deck i ever created.After reaching rank 3 with handlock(http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/901242-badass-guldan-rank-18-to-rank-3-in-8-hours) i tried to make rage warrior and jade valeera work and i failed hard.After dropping to rank 5 and doing a million defeats there,i opened this little f*cker---->Prince Valanar.So i tried to make a deck with it because why not?After doing 9 wins in row i was so suprised that i even installed a deck tracker to see how the hell this troll deck worked.
Proof of legend
Proof of winratio.The winratio is actually post the 9 wins at ranks 3-legend.So the actual winrate is even higher but since this is what was recorded we keep this.
Edit i played moar games with the deck so moooar stats.And MOAAR is better right?RIGHT?
Guide
JADE TEDDIES (very favoured):Mulligan Mortal Coil,Doomsayer,Skulking Geist.You feast on this match up.You must deny them the tempo,control the board,setting it as best as possible for Defile and play Skulking Geist asap.You not only destroy them but you do it slowly and painfully.The game will go to fatigue and you will win.
Other control teddies(very favoured): Same as jade teddies.As long as you don't draw like *** and you are not getting highrolled like hell(looking at you Anduin),you can't not be outvalued.Your main win condition is dk hero power and secondly the Medivh, the Guardian.Against control deck you should play the dk as long as you have a big hand that contains the cards you need like Medivh, the Guardian and big spells even if only 1 or 2 demons have died.Against control having 1or 2 demons is as relevant as having 4 or more.If they have a board clear,the game continues if not you win.So become a dk and bite dat booty! :P
Aggro Teddies(favoured):MulliganMortal Coil,Doomsayer,Defile and the one drops.If you draw half decently,it's such an easy win.They can't do anything about it.You have removals,aoes and healing.If you get terrible openers then it's gg(like any control deck).This deck performed soo much better than handlock against aggresive decks.
Examples:
Nice damage you have done to me Garrosh!Come an giv yar onkel a kiss!
Also for all of you aggro druid players out there:
Exodia mage Teddies(Concede)Slow control deck vs this,gg.Mulligan is irrelevant.
Card replacements
Prince Valanar:If you guys don't have Prince Valanar you can replace him with Spellbreaker orHellfire if you face alot of fload decks or The Lich King if you need another bomb.I recommend the Spellbreaker myself.
Medivh, the Guardian :Irreplacable.Since handlock is destroyed on legend ranks(see the reason below),i think this is the only way to play a powerful controllock.
The Black Knight: Everyone but pirates plays huge taunts now from aggro druid and murloc pally to big priest so it will always give you huge value but if you don't have him then replace him with the The Lich King.
Bloodmage Thalnos: Replace it with a second Tainted Zealot.Since we cut Hellfire we need to make the Defile as strong as possible.Moreover we have many cheap spells that synergize with spelldamage.
Q/A
Why should i play this over handlock?
I love handlock,it is my favourite deck of all times and the deck i reached rank 3 this month as well but it got hard countered by the meta.All Jade druids in high/ legend ranks have put bgh and spellbrearkers to counter handlock,big priests and the buffed minions of murloc pally.So the moment your giant at turn 4 is bghed,you can concede because you lost the board,lost the initiative and you can't shambler on turn 5.Moreover all the other decks have become more aggresive to counter jades so they counter you as well.Long story short you are countered by everyone who knows what he is doing.
I can't understand how this deck is winning,what are your win conditions with it?
You survive easily the aggro decks and you outvalue the control ones.The main win condition of the deck then it's the dk's hero power and the secondary is Medivh, the Guardian .Removing the threat they used their entire turn for and spawning a 6 drop or removing all their board and spawning a 8 drop does wonders.
Will you play more games with the deck?Will you add more stats?
I don't know,i reached 800 legend with it but forgot to screenshot opsy :P.For now i have lost incentive to play and to push further so i switched to wild.If i play standard ranked again you can bet yar ass that i will upload moaaar stats no matter the results! :P
Edit 4/9/2017
Yo mates,i decided to make a little update to the deck.First let me inform you that the deck still rocks because i reached rank 5 with 71% win.The meta shifted a bit from jade druid to aggro druid and priest which is even better for us.First things first the proof of win ratio.
Of course this winratio includes the games from the previous season.Basically these are all the games i have played with the deck without the first 9 wins.
Extra tips
Vs jade druid :I was asked to spectate some matches from some guys that had problem against druid.What i realised is that people didn't use their removals efficiently.They either tapped too much and were outtempoed or they used too many removals.While there isn't a fail proof strategy in knowing how to use them,I suggest this:Calculate the damage the druid can do in 2 turns.Can he kill you in two turns?
Yes?->Use removals.
No?->Play for tempo.
The deck is much harder to pilot than i first realised.
Vs Aggro druid: You lose this match only if you draw like sh*t or they innervate a fledgling on turn 1 and you have no doomsayer.If you still have problems against those remove the prince and black knight for two hellfires.
Raza priest:Big priest was completely replaced by the new velen pew pew priest.In this match up you have to go dk asap.Even if no demons died you need to pressure fast.If you face a lot of them i suggest swapping the prince and the black kight for two mountain giants.You need ONLY the mountain giants.Drakes and shamblers won't do sh*t.Basically you give them less time to pew pew you.I did'nt play against that many and did okeyish against those i faced so i didn't change anything.However if you play a lot against raza priests do the change.
This is it go out there and show the teddies true infernal powaaaaa >:D
hello! how are you adapting to the new meta? any changes? druids are almost gone and there is a lot of aggro/keleseth decks with some priests here and there. I guess the deck don't really need any changes, but wanted to ask anyway :^)
I have made serious changes,since the meta swifted from druids(aggro and jade) to priest and hunter.I will update the deck or make a new guide as soon as i have the time to write it and push it to legend. :)
very nice, i'll be waiting ^^
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/939628-legend-66-win-metas-eneny-no-1
Here,i decided to make a new guide because editing was a pain in the *ss.Enjoy mate :P
Hi may i know how to beat quest mage?
I was trying similar lists before but they were too greedy, this deck is on point. I'm at rank 8 now but I'm climbing very fast, even won a game vs a druid that death grip'd my medivh, it was so sweet. Thanks a lot!
An advice for people that aren't doing well: don't be afraid of playing your big spells without medivh, don't be greedy and don't eat unnecessary damage just because you want to play him first, learn to twist.
Thank you a lot mate for commenting and sharing your data! I am glad that you are having fun and success.I wish you even better results!
Fun deck. Only played a handful of games, and I think I was at least above 50% (not bad considering I was playing on mobile, had no deck tracker, and wasn't familiar with the deck). Found myself with that old, familiar feeling of waiting for Medeiv to hurry up and get to the party that I always had when I played him in my mage deck.
But, for a first impression, it might not be a deck I would craft too heavily for, but I only needed to craft 1 Twisting for it, so I think it was worth the price of admission
+1 for calling it Guldan the teddy killer :D :D :D
The deck is working great mate, used it from rank 10 to 6 last night, I dont really wanted to craft a second twisting nor prince Valanar so I used the Treachery plus the 3 mana Demon combo instead and the deck still works fine, And always won vs the Quest mages every time i drew the discard combo.
Thanks mate and welcome back!I haven't seen you for a while.If the deck worked even with those horrible cards in it,then i am really proud for it!XD
Anyway,I am glad that you had fun with it!I hope you reach even higher! :D
Well, Here in venezuela many things are happening and its been 5 months without internet so far, Can only play a limited amount of time with the mobile data or when I visit a Public place that has wifi. Thats the main Reason as im offline most of the time.
Oh i didn't know you were from Venezuela.Stay strong burito speaking brotha!Best wishes and dank memes from Eu!
They are good.They help a lot against paladins and warrior.Prince helps a lot against aggro druid as well because most of the times,they send two small dudes to kill him.So against aggro druid,he heals for 12+(8hp healing and 4 damage prevented).If you don't face a lot of aggro,you can replace them.
Hey Jainaishot!
Great deck man!
I have an golden Lord Jaxx. Do you think I can squeeze him in this deck, for um more win condition?
Thanks
Thanks mate! :D
As for lord j,he doesn't fit in the deck unfortunatelly.You can ofcourse make him work but it will require many changes in the deck.However if you don't mind making the deck a bit worse,you can replace the black knight.A golden lord j gives so much swag to the deck .And honestly?Swag>>>>>>Legend!
Thanks man!
Legend is overestimated!!!
How many games did you play and what did you face the most mate?Could you also say how did you lose?Were you smorced down?Outvalued?Highrolled?
Once i know these i can give you a proper answer.In general though i believe thalnos is a must have and you should go with him first.
Well they are 39 now :P. Thanks mate,i am glad you liked the deck!Dat name though