[Legend Top100] Kharan Chaos Control Hunter (v2...
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Wild
- 18 Minions
- 10 Spells
- 2 Weapons
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Unknown
- Crafting Cost: 8740
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 2/8/2016 (Explorers)
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Hey Everyone,
Maybe you remember my older versions of this deck ([Legend Top50] Kharan Chaos Control Hunter). Since closed Beta I mainly played control hunter and reached legend quite often with it.
With the new League of Explorer additons I was able to hit Legend Top100 again last season. I got a lot of requests for a new decklist, so here it is.
General
The first thing you will notice is that im using Reno. Because of him I play every card only one time (no dublicates). 30 unique cards allow maximal versatility. So every turn you have more different cards to choose from and never find yourself in a situation in which you got the same useless card two times in hand.
The main problem of a controlly approach at hunter is the card draw. Thats why you need high value cards and a lot of ways to draw/save cards. You play this deck passively. In general you mulligan for low cost defensive cards and control the board until your opponent runs out of steam.
I guess most people only played Face or Midrange Hunter and it could be hard to adapt to this passive playstyle. You are always defending/clearing the board and don't push for face damage.
The Cards
Your strongest removal tool. Combos with Wild Pyromancer, Baron Geddon, Dreadscale. Also lets your small starter minions trade into big enemys.
The strongest hunter card in my opinion. You get three additional options to choose from and are able to draw important cards faster. (Like Reno Jackson)
Must have for a control hunter! Hunter has the only hero power that doesnt interact with the board or gives you a control advantage. This problem is solved with this card. Try to choose:
Control/Midrange: Warlock > Mage > Druid > Priest > Paladin > Shaman > Warrior > Rogue
Against Aggro: Priest > Warrior > Mage > Druid > Warlock > Paladin > Shaman > Rogue
Good for starting. Lets you draw and combos with Kill Command. If I draw it later in the game I sometimes sacrifice it with Baron Geddon/ Dreadscale/ Wild Pyromancer to faster draw a stronger minion.
Weapons are always good for control. Especially if you got Reno Jackson already in hand. You can trade into two minions and just get the health back later. For 2 Mana it is a great starting tool and damage bonus if you try to run the enemy down when you already changed you hero ability to something different.
This card is made for control hunter. It is like a second hero ability and works great with a lot of small minions in this deck (Wild Pyromancer/Acolyte of Pain). Also always sticks to your hand which is a kind of draw and can be used on remaining unspend mana like the hero ability.
Hunters strongest trap. Two board- and facedamage for two mana. Very useful against any kind of aggro deck. Lets you survive the early turns until you can stabilize the board. I play only one trap because it isnt just worth for 1x Eaglehorn Bow and Freezing Trapis often a waste against aggro decks.
Standard removal tool. Lets you gain time in the early rounds. Does 4 damage with spell damage to clear for great value and sometimes also draws a card at last resort.
Good for starting. Lets you draw and combos with Kill Command/Quick Shot/Explosive Shot/Explosive Trap/Powershot. If I draw it later in the game I sometimes sacrifice it with Baron Geddon/Dreadscale/Wild Pyromancer to faster draw a card.
Good for starting. Lets you draw and combos with Kill Command. There are a lot of good 3 mana hunter control cards that you get most of the time from this: Eaglehorn Bow, Unleash the Hounds, Kill Command, Deadly Shot, Powershot, Dreadscale, Animal Companion
Good for starting. Lets you draw sometimes and combos with Kill Command. With a lot of highmana minions you have a good chance to draw a card. If you not is it still a 3/2 beast for 2 mana.
Very versatile card. Combos with Hunter's Mark/Acolyte of Pain/Explorer's Hat (For up to 3 Board Damage) or can be used like 'spelldamage' to do 1 extra damage to clear something.
Second weapon in the deck. Weapons are always good for control. Especially if you got Reno Jackson already in hand. You can trade into 2-3 minions and just get the health back later. For 3 Mana it is a great starting tool and damage bonus if you try to run the enemy down when you already changed you hero ability to something different. Also combos with Explosive Trap
Solid Minion. Every companion has a role in this deck. Also counts as a spell for Wild Pyromancer and doesnt count as a low mana minion for King's Elekk
Good control removal. Very strong against other control decks and ok against aggro. The amount of board damage in this deck helps to clear small minions so this card can target the big ones without relying on luck.
You have 5 Beasts to combo this. 5 Damage is awesome to clear a lot of big 5 health minions. Othewise is 3 Damage for 3 Mana not the best effect but also not the worst. This deck needs a lot of removal and while other cards might be stronger, we can only play one copy.
An active Explosive Trap! Very strong against aggro and especially with spelldamage or Wild Pyromancer for a 3 Damage board clear. It rarely happens that you end up in a situation where your opponent got more than 3 minions, so 3 targets are more than enough.
My favorite hearthstone card. Lets you draw at least one card and combos great with Dreadscale, Baron Geddon, Wild Pyromancer, Explorer's Hat to draw 2-3 cards. Often you can also attack a 1-2 attack minion to draw an additional card without help.
Very strong for control. Just like a small Baron Geddon can he be used to clear small minions and to combo with Hunter's Mark/Acolyte of Pain/Kill Command
Solid minion and used to finish other control decks. This card is needed if you want to win against priests or warriors otherwise you will run out of steam in the end.
Fills the second 4 mana spot. Not a strict control card but it is just too good to skip it.
Very underrated card! It's a +1 Mana Swipe that does +1 damage. Often clears a 5 health minion and 1-2 smaller ones. Can easily turn a game arround and helps to keep the board clean. Also really strong with spelldamage.
The deck needs good draw and profits of spelldamage. Combos with Kill Command/Quick Shot/Explosive Shot/Explosive Trap/Powershot.
Important effect to block your enemy and secure your board or health. Very strong against control warrior, freeze mage or rogue. It is hard to keep minions on board in these matchups and sometimes you are not able to damage them enough, especially with a changed hero power. This card gives you at least one turn in which you can pressure your enemy.
Gap filler. Very strong minion, sticky and used against aggro to buy time.
Key Card and perfect for control. Try to play as fast as possible. Allows you empty your hand much faster and play big threats. Many combos are much easier to do and he buys time because your opponent has to kill him next turn.
The deck is build around him. Try to mulligan/track him at every game except for Warrior/Priest. Always keep in mind that you got him in deck. He allows you to do costly weapon attacks, use the warlock hero power and destroy aggro decks. Against control warrior and priest I sometimes play him even if im still at 20+ Health, just to keep board presence. Do not be too greedy and don't wait too long to play him, 10-20 Heal are more than enough to turn the game around.
Underestimated removal tool! 2 board damage and a 7/5 minion for 7 Mana is really strong for this deck. He also combos with Acolyte of Pain/Hunter's Mark. Even if the opponent uses Big Game Hunter his effect already triggered and at least he killed some minions and eats a card from the enemy. Sometimes he can even be used to finish a game when 2 dmg are missing for lethal.
Strongest minion in the game.
Your late game draw engine. Very hard to remove when he sits on board. Really important against other control decks and good against midrange. Draw really is the biggest weakness of the control hunter and this card prevents that you run out of steam in the end.
Mulligan
Good in any matchup:
Against Aggro: (Hunter, Shaman, Paladin, Warlock, Rogue)
Against Control: (Warrior, Priest, Druid)
Budget options / possible changes:
Bloodmage Thalnos -> Loot Hoarder / Mad Scientist
Ysera -> King Krush / Savannah Highmane
Baron Geddon / Dr. Boom -> Ragnaros the Firelord / Savannah Highmane
Dreadscale -> Unleash the Hounds
Matchups:
Good (+50% Winrate): Druid, Zoolock, Patron Warrior, Freeze Mage, Tempo Mage, Aggro Shaman, Rogue, Face Hunter, Mid-Range Paladin, Mid-Range Hunter, Aggro Pally,
Decent (~50% Winrate): Secret Paladin, Murloc Paladin, Control Priest, Control Warrior
Bad (-50% Winrate): RenoLock, Dragon Priest
Tutorials / Videos:
Deck spotlight tutorial by RegisKillbin:
Deck played by Xatanael Hearthstone in legend ladder:
Deck played by Furo at Rank 9:
Deck played by Torlk et Marmotte in legend ladder (French)
These are for the old version, but the playstyle is still the same:
If there is great demand, I will play this deck on stream. (http://www.twitch.tv/teamoverrated_kharan)
Thanks everyone for the great support!
Really a fun deck, I did a minor change -Emperor Thaurissan +Savannah Highmane, very fun and interesting!
To all those complaining that they are losing repeatedly in ranked, please keep a few things in mind:
The meta is different at every level of ranked, near the bottom tends to be a lot of aggro, around rank 9-10 you transition more into secret cancer/combo druid, and 5-1 is a mixture of the two with more control mixed in, and legend is where people try fun new things (sometimes, there's still a lot of cancer and druid). Additionally, the meta and skill level changes over the time of the day, with afternoon to early evening being the most diverse and "easy" with more casual players, and late night to morning being full of the "tier 1" decks and more technically sound players. You're not going to climb by picking one deck and playing it over and over, you have to adapt to the meta you are in. The decks this is strong and weak against is clearly stated in the guide, and I tend to agree (although my win rate versus paladin is actually a bit higher, about 55%).
Finally, take a look at the screenshot and keep in mind the context; the op is a legend player who only plays hunter decks. This deck has tons of nuance and hard choices in every turn that can play out to a win or a loss, things like "do I burn my Wild Pyromancer now and clear the board or do I hold him to clear away other minions on turn 6 against Mysterious Challenger?" You can't just pick this deck up and auto-pilot to legend like you would with Secret Cancer
What's the reason for not having Big Game Hunter in the deck?
I took out tracking because I hate it as a card and I found I usually discard a key card when I don't want to pretty often. Other than that, good deck!
what did you put instead ?
This deck is fun.
So far so good in rank 11-10, still hard matches with control priest (justicar) and control warrior (justicar). And the only heal is reno also i think is not enough. But, i still don't have any idea what replaces to earthseer or healbot.
6 games 0-6 so far lost to secret pally, control priest, zoolock, dragon pally (!!!!).. not enough ways to clear and control board and no healing at all beside renno
Man, I'm sorely tempted to finally craft Baron for this deck.......
I was very tempted as well. I crafted Dreadscale for the deck and I already have an Acidmaw, so I am going to run that in the 7 spot and see what that combo is all about.
Is it worth it? I am missing 3 legendaries from the list. The Baron, Yesra, and Dreadscale. I have the dust to craft them but I also have the replacements (King Krush , Ragnaros the Firelord). Yesra and Baron Geddon are on my want list.
What can replace dreadscale,and blood mage lmao
It is in the description.
Seems interesting. Working with Druid Mill decks gives you a taste for sitting back and clearing minions before swapping to offensive. Something like this wouldn't be too difficult to adapt to.
My God.
I am finally having fun playing Hunter again.
I have gone 11-0 so far, all of them very comfortable wins..
+1
All I need is geddon and dreadscale. I have just enough dust, but I was planning on crafting a sylvannas. I have all of other top tier legendary except for Harrison Jones. I can't decide to spend the dust or just hold off. I love to play Reno control decks and this deck looks fun.
mas steamwheedle sniper? Es mas good pour le control-isimos.
Hello, i've been playing with some aggresive decks in the past season and my favorite of all time mid range druid, and this season i'm going to use what i like most, control / mid range and tempo decks, and i realy liked your list, but i dont have Baron Guedon do you have any replacment for him? I've been thinking about Savannah Highmane because of the body and the deathrattle, but need an opinion of someone who has experience with the deck.
You get my upvote from how damn nice your guide is.