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Look at the positive side, if they changed it beforehand we wouldn't get that sweet dust back later

So far I have managed to get the initial combo off several times, but have only won 1 game. You really take a beating setting it up, and you are left exposed after Grumble sends any taunts you have back into your hand. Going to try paying a little more attention to my life total, even if it means holding off on the combo. Ultimately casting it on a empty board with at least 10 or more health to be safe. Almost wish that it actually cast Chain Gang instead of just copying Shudder ... i would rather have the board full of taunts than be left with an exposed face. 

I predict that "Shaman deserve to be broken as hell, look how bad we have been since ... " will be posted at least 5000 times in the next 3 months.  

To actually answer the OP, Dudeadin is either an easy win, or impossible for Exodia mage. Because of the low health of your minions, you are susceptible to board clears from Blizzard and Volcanic Potion. If the mage draws those, you are toast. But, you have a lot of early burst, so if you can rush them down. 

The main key for really any class against Exodia is just pressure, the earlier the better. You can try to tech Dirty Rat, but that just weakens your deck against other, more common opponents. (and it's not 100% effective anyway, since most Exodia players run more ways to copy Apprentices than needed, so unless you get Antonidas, it really doesn't hurt that bad). 

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You are asking: how can I beat a tier 4 deck? Easy answer: learn to play or change game. 

FFS, was this really necessary? Just because a deck is ranked lower, doesn't mean you can't have issues with it. Personally, I have no troubles with Cubelock (as Reno Mage) in Wild but get absolutely destroyed by Giantlock. Pally players, on the other hand, might feel like Giantlock is the easy matchup and Cubelock is the tough one. Kingsbane Rogue counters control decks so naturally someone might want tips on how to tech for it. Being a total ass to them and acting all high and mighty does nothing to help the thread.

To the OP, the listed suggestions (Skulking Geist and weapon removal) are your best bet aside from changing to a fast aggro deck like pally. My solution has always been to pressure the rogue with a decent number of minions, even if you're not using them to their full potential (using battlecry damage on face for example). People say that weapon removal does nothing, but if they've already used one Shinyfinder and they're only 10 cards into their deck, their weapon can stay buried a few turns, giving you a big advantage.

 I don’t see how it is necessary your comment in fact. You are trying to make a confutation of statistics and data with your personal opinion in which we are not interested in (at least I am not) and in any case it is not relevant. The data man said that it is a tier 4, it sucks this deck, there is nothing to argue. I personally have no interest in knowing what deck do you think that are stronger or weaker, I check the data. So,  when someone ask: how can I beat a tier 4 deck, the smarter answer is change the game in fact. 

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After reading this thread, it has become glaringly obvious to me that this is the Hearthstone player rationale: "If it's not my deck, or it counters my deck, it must be CANCER".

 

 Also a perfect example of the critical thinking a player must possess to acquire double legend.

Didn't read through, so this may have already been said. 

I would agree that Cubelock is, at least, "shaping" the meta ... maybe wouldn't go as far as saying "suffocating" it. 

The big problem I see is that we have 3 very powerful decks that are absolutely dominating the meta, and they each counter the other so hard, it is creating the "Rock, Paper, Scissors" effect ... and completely rendering the 6 other classes and other decks practically useless. If you want to advance, you just about have to play one of the Big 3 right now, and even then, if you get into the wrong local meta, you can backslide very fast. 

In my case, It's making the game really stale right now. I love Warlock, but I am burned out on it. I went on a grind for Golden Gul'Dan, so I am just sick of Cube and Control Warlock right now. And, I don't like the "Just go face" concept behind Secret Mage ... and for the cherry on top, if I hear "Reporting for Duty!" one more time, I may jam pencils in my ears! 

Hoping WW brings something fresh to play that is viable. I see some potential decks emerging, but only time will tell.  

My problem is that she takes the spot of a class Legendary. If she were an epic, it would be "fun" card. Stats aren't great, but they aren't terrible, and the RNG effect could be game winning, or worthless. If it had been "Discover" a past legendary, then maybe it would be worth it, but for a random ... nah. 

I will continue to get the pre-orders up until I decide to quit the game entirely. So far, I haven't found a better way to waste time, so I'll stick around a little longer. 

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Bad design list: mage quest(rely on pure luck and leave no answer if completed)

 The Mage Quest is not bad design because of "pure luck". This quest has no pure luck. You have a task, play 6 generated spells, so there is no luck here, you have to make sure your deck has these generators and you have to play them, nothing regarding luck with the exception of a couple of times you get spells that you cannot play like Shatter, if unable to meet the condition. Other than that, the Quest itself doesn't rely on pure luck. It doesn't have answers to the card itself, you cannot remove it or prevent it's effect, but that is mostly how every non Secret Spell works, you cannot prevert or remove the effect of a Fireball unless you are playing Counterspell as a Mage. That effect will occur, the 6 Damage will be dealt, after that you can act upon it, and the same happens with Time Warp.

The bad design of this Quest actually comes from this card having a task which has nothing to do with the reward. The Reward, Time Warp, is a card your clearly want to use for Combo win conditions. Combo win conditions is something that never wants to rely on Random card generation because as any player that ever played Combo decks, you want the deck to be as optimized as possible with a perfect balance of the Combo pieces, survival tools and draw engines. Adding Random Generation is completely outise of that optimized plan and that is the design flaw, it asks the player to go for a completely unless task, generating and playing spells, when that is completely useless for the game plan that the Reward is made for, Combo plays.

The Mage Quest should request the player "Quest: Play 12/15 Spells. Reward: Time Warp". This is the card correctly designed.

 

Hearthstone is what you make of it. If you want a competitive deck to climb ladder not that hard to put together an aggro deck. If you want to play a lot of different decks that will cost you some real money. If you want to play some unique creative decks be prepared to lose to plenty of ladder decks. I usually play competitive decks to rank 15, and then switch to playing what ever I feel like.  So, I usually rank between 15-10 and I am totally cool with that. If my janky gimmick deck gets creamed by pirate warrior I just laugh and queue up a new match at that point.

Dude, this list also run Deathstalker Rexxar and Dispatch Kodo. I do agree that Prince Keleseth is good if you draw him but you don’t really need to worry if you don’t draw him as what I have stated in the other comment. Cheers mate! :)

I have a feeling that 50% of the posters did not even read the original post.

Craft some paragraph breaks.  Reading that wall of text was murder on my eyes. 

Given that you already have guldan I would second crafting keleseth for zoo. I would add patches to this as the card is still possibly the strongest legendary in the game even if it is rotating out in 5 months time.

These 2 cards are also part of a lot of other decks so give options. 

Roping is a selfish tactic for those who are salty and incapable of countering other decks they dislike playing against. At that point you are just being an inconsiderate asshole to anonymous people who are perhaps just trying to enjoy the game. I am not sure what makes you think you are better than everyone else because you play what you consider "acceptable".

Truthfully, you are much worse of a person than any of your opponents in this case, regardless of their intentions with their deck of choice. You prove nothing to blizzard. At most they simply have statistical proof of you intentionally roping frequently and being worse for the game than the cards themselves. All you prove is that you have no consideration for other players and demonstrate your lack of skill through wasting time. You would rather spend a half-hour watching a rope burn to get your daily 3 wins than to legitimately play the game, because then perhaps someone will have real-life commitments and will concede. A true hero.

Cards are not balanced around douchebags, they are balanced around other cards. Locked.

This is one card I hope they never touch, I love the mechanic, I love playing the deck, I am still at 46% with the damn deck...

Maybe you should try it yourself and see how it works for yourself, it is a expensive deck to play and is not worth the dust for many players but it is for sure an interesting deck to play if you are into control.

Well i don't hate aggro as archetype but i do hate aggro players because they farm casual and wild .Do you want to play a tier 1 standard aggro deck on ranked?Fine,we are cool.Ranked mode is about winning but if you ruin the fun of casual and wild with your cancer deck then you are ****.End of story

Now as for why people hate playing vs aggro,the reasons are:

A) It's braindead.No matter how much you try to sweeten the pill the answer is that the only aggresive deck that required calculations and thinking was vanilla zoolock.All the other aggro decks play like this:Dump hand,go face,win.Btw it's not like aggresive decks are the only ones that are stupid as f*ck to play,but it's one of the reasons people hate them.

B)Only the first turns matter.This is the main reason people hate aggresive decks.Against them only the first turns and as a result the starting hand and first draws matter.Even a monkey randomly throwing cards will beat the best player in the world if the latter draws like  sh*t.Aggro punishes bad draws no matter how good you are or how good your deck is.You can make a well rounded and balanced deck but you know that 20-30% of the games vs aggro you will instant lose by draws.

C)Players are fed by it. Aggresive decks have been tier 1 for years now and people are tired of seeing them.When aggro becomes tier 1,it simply breaks the game because it makes anything else irrelevant.Why would you play another archetype when you have the same results but faster and easier.

D)Aggro is the fun police of casual.Nothing more to say about it.

Bad luck, no conspiracy around. Move on.

What's up with my opponents playing cards lately. Every time I lose it's when my opponent is playing cards. What gives?