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Beautiful game! :)

Hi! I also had a desire to put more control tools into the deck in the past. Spammy Arcanist and Insatiable Devourer have both a "home" in the deck because you can copy the effects with Brilliant Macaw. Sadly this direction was going towards a control deck and lost too much momentum for me to think it was worth it. If you can somehow make it work, hit me up! I would be interested :)

Meanwhile I just made a small update on the post; alternative build for the deck that is working even better (atleast for me).

- Shamaniac#2998

You nailed it! To be honest I stopped playing for over a year because din't like the direction where the developers were pushing the game. They wanted faster games and more "clear" paths of building your decks win conditions because they wanted to make it easier for the players... I do not like it easy :D I like to think. And I wanted to give the game one more change and came up with this beautiful mess! It's more about to know what to do with given resources gainst your opponents deck... than "finish your quest and win against doesn't matter who".

- Shamaniac#2998

Druid is one of the worse matchups for the deck in any case (43% wr for me). The wins I get against it are usually to do with going for the face with good manacurve and pretending to play aggro. Somethimes seen druid make the mistake to get their board full with example tobio the shrubbagazzer's effect. By freezig it and maintaining a strong field enough to deal with the armor, it's possible: https://hsreplay.net/replay/BdeMUgsByCcTf328vFSa7q

If you're talking about the "freezing marathon", I think the best way to learn is to watch my recondings and just play. The biggest and hardest trick to explain is to know how to keep the mana, field space, atk values and the enemys HP in check at the same time. For exxample if you have 10 mana and you drop Snowfall Guardian to bounce it back with Youthful Brewmaster, it's already been 8 mana, and there's not too much else to do for that turn. But if you have made it so that the last battlecry from you last turn was Snowfall Guardian and you have Brilliant Macaw, then you need to use only 3 mana for the freeze, opening many different ways for healing with 7 mana.

For you also I can offer private tutoring session within the game if that's something you would want :)

- Shamaniac#2998

Mulligan is here! I will improve it by removing miss spellings and fixing card visuals.

For me I have 83% wr against control DK, 59% against green DK and 63% against freeze DK. Worse matchups so far have been against Rogue, Curse Imp Warlock, Dragon paladin, Fel DH, and Big Warlock all somewhere between 40-50%.

If you'd like, I can play couple games spectating you and see if there's something we can figure to do differently? :)

- Shamaniac#2998

Hi! I also often find mysef in a situation when I'm like "Oh shit! He's playing some kind of combo deck!" such as your Fel DH for example. Then I know I only have limited amount of time to finish them off with the some varient of Astalor, the Flamebringer OTK -combo OR get "lucky" and let them to build up a board that is counteractive for their own strategy and keep it frozen with Snowfall Guardian marathon until I win. So many of these combos need certain amount of room from the board, especially with something like Duid, and if they dont have it or anything to destroy their own field with, they're just doomed.

Evolve shaman surely can manage to pull the turn 3 11/11 magic trick. Just take deep breaths and try to think every turn how to make dmg to your face as low as possible with cards such as Windchill, Sleetbreaker, Snowblind Harpy ext. until you get to turn 6 and drop your first (of many copies) Snowfall Guardian to completely block them for the turns to come. It does not matter if you have 1hp at this moment, the current list of Evolve Shaman doet not run any direct dmg spell or anything that deals with your board without using their own minions. This is how it goes on paper, surely I feel your bad luck about them getting the Warlock legendary minion, but if you keep trying and do everything right multiple times, eventually you have won more games than lost becouse you had 0,01% change of a bad luck ;)

- Shamaniac#2998

I'm not sure where would I see if my post became spam, but something is wrong atm. I can't edit my post or reply people that have replied to it. Also it seems to not exist anymore exept through the links:

https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1424296-the-new-meta-breaker-freeze-shaman-hole-shaman

It took me 6h to edit as it is now from this morning. I wish to get back online aas soon as possible. Till then I'll be somewhat sad D:

- Shamaniac#2998

I posted a hot deck idea to the forums and promised to add mulligan information and more to it if it gets 20+ likes. And I just finished it. And after that I tried to answer couple questions in the theat that just came in, but was unable to sent it. Then I looked for my profile status and my decks, and the deck was no longer there. Also it disapered from forums also.

I wrote way over 1000 words and got every card highlighted with the Card Name effect.

Is this something that your system cannot let trhough without pre-checking it first? Or did I do something that got me banned?

I try to stay calm, because I actually possibly just lost 6h of work putting it together...

The direct links seems still be working though:

https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1424296-the-new-meta-breaker-freeze-shaman-hole-shaman

Please calm my mind and tell me what just happened :D

Actually a good adition! I had forgotten his existence for some reason, ty for tipping him out!

Now I need to change 8x copies of Astalor Bloodsworn to 9- infinite x copies xD

Well I am happy to hear it, thank you for coming this long a way! :)

I also think that the "idea" is there, but to utilize it fully, we'll need some support from the upcoming expansions.

Other thing is that people have hard time to unterstand how the deck works, because it's the most flexible deck they'll ever see. In every match yes u'll have the same deck and cards in it, but you can choose to use them differently depending on what kind of opponent, deck or situation you're facing. You don't always have to go Envoy Rustwix play AND you dont always have to life tap / draw cards from your deck. Deck has some strong play's, but people seem to be too obsessive to go straight to those instead of thinking what is the best action in each situation. To learn all the potential you'll first have to be highly known with the meta AND then you'll just have to play a ton and learn how many different ways you can shape this "clay-like" deck.

I did read your comment this morning about 6h from now and to make up my promise, I have now fulfilled it! I Started from bottom diamond 5 and it took me about 33 games to make it to legend. I made one change: swapped 2x Underlight Angling Rod's to 2x Hammer of the Naaru's. It's just overall more guranteed value and at the same time it work as a defensive play against aggro. Underlight Angling Rod did not do enough.

Reason I didn't do this run till the end before was because I made a new deck for warlock and it took all of my intrest after that.

Here's the legend score: http://prntscr.com/13ijqeo

Statistics: http://prntscr.com/13ikb2h  (17 of the games shown were from try before, it was also from diamond 5, but only to rank 3)

Last game vs Marcu:

https://hsreplay.net/replay/JsJv36bzbfGNxKXLVe45vR

And about the Token Druid, I have played about 137 games inside the high diamond ranks this month and have faced only one of them. Surely I lost easily, but here in Europe servers there just aint that many players who have chosen that path to play.

The best card for replacement is Vectus. It's not perfect by any means.

With Kanrethad Prime + potential Youthful Brewmaster combo it is a 10 mana turn; summon boarfull of minions and make favorable trades with your 2x Nightshade Matron's that you dont fall behind in tempo.

With Vectus + Youthful Brewmaster u'll have 7 mana turn; summon small minions that don't do anything immediately. At maxium you can have the leftover 3 mana used in a form of removal with Blood Shard Bristleback.

Also when using Vectus, U'll have to remember that there's actually 3 deathrattle minions in the deck; Taelan Fordring, Death's Head Cultist and Envoy Rustwix! Just keep it on your mind when playing the game and play the cards in order that gives you the value or healing you'll need in that specific situation.

1. True, you could! Vectus would also add some extra healing to the deck because of Death's Head Cultist. But It would make the Nightshade Matron + Hand of Gul'dan combo to come down one turn later when using Lorekeeper Polkelt's effect besause Vectus is a 5 -drop. Also Brewmaster might be clunky when making duplicates of Kanrethad Prime, but when you have the "need" to do it, it's usually forgiven because then you are against control. When against aggro, brewmaster is higly less clunky, because you can re-do Blood Shard Bristleback op battlecry multiple times.

2. That would fight against activation of Blood Shard Bristleback's effect by increasing number of cards in your deck. Also after Lorekeeper Polkelt's effect the Soul Fragment's would just go to bottom of the deck and be rather useles(?)

3. True, Backfire is one mana cheaper and draws same amount of cards as the Nightshade Matron + Hand of Gul'dan combo. But Backfire is not a Demon that would make your turn to drop Kanrethad Prime more "active" than just put 8 drop on the field - "do nothing". Also the whole idea with Lorekeeper Polkelt's effect is to have guaranteed card draw instead of "potentially having 2 backfires on bottom of my deck".

Having a conversation, nothing against if you make your changes yourself or not.

Have had the same thing twice now inside of 5 days. Both against Hunter. I play with pc about 5h a day, but still these events make it hard when playing on ladder.

I have made a couple new versions that dont use it. One card has been very good lately has been Youthful Brewmaster that u can use to "copy" any battlecry depending what situation U r in; more card draw, more heal and more (OTK) damage.

I will update the deck some day in the duture with a new setup!