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    posted a message on The E.T.C god of metal / broom warrior is bugged

    About the warsong commander and charge interaction, it depends on the order of your play (you can try it yourself).

    If you play the warsong commander last, it will gives the given-charge-minion +1 attack. If you play warsong commander before the charge spell, it will not.

    So I will assume, from the coding side, it happens because the re-evaluation order of the effect type. Aura effect (warsong) is re-evaluated everytime new effect added to the board just before that new effect added. So warsong will not buff the minion that given charge after warsong already played. Even southsea deckhand won't get the buff if you play it after warsong, but will get the buff if you play it before warsong. Yeah I know it's weird and might categorized as a bug.

    About the etc, the effect is evaluated when a minion attack, it's not Aura like warsong, so compare it with warsong isn't exactly right. 

    The right comparation is Magic Carpet.

    The text is "After you summon 1-cost minion", yet it still trigger the effect if you play the reduced Sea Giant to 1 cost. It doesn't need to say "After you summon minion with 1-cost". Both are interacted with things minion do on the board.

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    posted a message on Im near level 30 and...
    Quote from sloth_tray >>

    u can grind out 30 wins in 3-4 h, 2 on a good day, and it's irl h not play time.

    use fast agro decks in wild mode, skip prists and CWs.

     

    wild agro druid wr ~60%, avg game less then 3 min

     You can't play in less than 3 minutes, because there's a player in other side of player too. And if you look to all the stats people has been gathering for years, you will get that average hearthstone match for aggro matchup is 4-5 minutes while control matchup take more than 10minutes.

    But you still get the math right, my friend, don't worry. Because to get 30wins with 60% winrate in 4-5 min games is still about 3-4 hours (30*100/60*4,5min = 225min).

    Your numbers adds up, I can say you really talked by experience and not just bursting the rage and go hyperbolic like the other guy.

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    posted a message on Im near level 30 and...
    Quote from sloth_tray >>

    u can grind out 30 wins in 3-4 h, 2 on a good day, and it's irl h not play time.

    use fast agro decks in wild mode, skip prists and CWs.

     

    wild agro druid wr ~60%, avg game less then 3 min

     You can't play in less than 3 minutes, because there's a player in other side of player too. And if you look to all the stats people has been gathering for years, you will get that average hearthstone match for aggro matchup is 4-5 minutes while control matchup take more than 10minutes.

    But you still get the math right, my friend, don't worry. Because to get 30wins with 60% winrate in 4-5 min games is still about 3-4 hours (30*100/60*4,5min = 225min).

    Your numbers adds up, I can say you really talked by experience and not just bursting the rage and go hyperbolic like the other guy.

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    posted a message on Im near level 30 and...
    Quote from Rohriant >>
    Quote from MarchofTime >>

    With the old system you would only get 10 gold for an hours play 20 gold if your lucky

     if I were a loser, yes. A winner, guess more than 60 hour...git gud.

     Do you mean 60 gold per hour? Because if it is, then you simply play different game than us. The math will never gives 60 gold per hour in old system.

    This is the math..

    60 gold per hour means 10 gold per 10 minutes. Breakdown it per 10 minutes then..

    Then you need to win 3 games in 10minutes. Even if you are a championship class player, your winrate is never so far more than 75% especially with the new mmr matchmaking. So you have to play at least 4 games to get that 3 win. All in 10minutes.

    Let's say you have 5G Internet connection and play in a very busy player time so you have very short queue time, let's say 15 seconds queue time (including mulligan, it's the fastest queue time+mulligan phase will ever happen). You left with only 8 minutes to actually play that 4 games, makes it 2 minutes per game.

    Now, average turn for fast hearthstone game is about 20 seconds. Ofc we don't have to count the first turn since nothing to decide in first turn anyway. So total turn you play in that 2 minutes game is 6 turns. It was 3 turns for each player, not included the first turn.

    This all come to conclusions that you were saying that all your game is decided on turn 4, either you kill the opponent, your opponent concede or you conceded.

    I have no idea how you can be that gud.

    If I were that gud, I imagine I will never enjoy this game.

     

     you're not that smart ain't you? I've played secret mage and odd pally to reach gold . I've even played this aggro toxic druid for a bit to farm gold , way more fast. And by turn 3-5 i win my games, most of them when grinding, be on ranked wild (better, lot of bad players) or casual wild . So, I will say again, i have videos about it that i didn't posted on youtube and I don't even want anymore, live by stream of Hearhstone is really sad, specially now the game has lesser and lesser viewers and community events.
    But let's go back to Gold per hour, I don't know what kind of player you are, maybe u're not that good, specially when u bring your smart "math" to us, but think with me, if a game doesn't even go trough 4-6 turns how much time did I spent in this match if nobody has peanuts in brain or family problems and like to rope the whole turn? Well, I say and u can redo all ur math - Match time is always between 2minutes and 5minutes - now multiply this for at least 15 games wich gives you more or less (clicking queue right away from the end of each match) 50 gold in 40-50minutes. With so much concede from cringe ppl like you, more yet! so in less than 1h40minutes I finished my games, got 100g and the daily quest. In one week I could reach 1k-1,4gold easily. 
    I'm not an aggro player, I have almost all collection by being half f2p (bought some bundles and preorders untill scholomance since from witchwood) I always was lucky with legendary drops always reaching almost all legend collection since witchwood, except for some cards dusted pure garbage legendaries or just 'cause i didn't wanted to get the missing legendaries counting like 2 or 3 legendaries to complete each collection since them.
    So, I guess you shouldn't project your own incapability to reach some status like this on other ppl. Many ppl are good in this game and play with whatever they want, Aggro, control, combo, meme, DH whatever man. I played my games and when the gold cap was done I changed to control braindead decks like Cubelock, Ress priest, some Armor/Mec'tun druid, some warrior with cards that remove all board and u just play one card for turn but okay, many say these are the "smart decks". Combo decks are the real smart decks, but this game suffers from hard rigged algorythm wich chooses who will get shafted each game, so many combo decks doesn't actually work these days, but still, are the smart ones.
    So, your logic is really flawed and u look like a flustered guy trying to convince ppl this is a bad way to play - there's no bad way to play, there's fun and this system has no fun and lots of obligatory stuff we don't have or don't want it. Quests behind paywalls, like win in arena and stuff like that. if u like to be tricked, is up to you my man, is up to ur dark future, but don't project on us, we don't need ppl like you to shut down a feeling that it's true, we got shafted for f2p is bad but for players that invested money in this game is way worse. How much is enough to have fun or to play the game for real? I have to wait now like two 2weeks to craft a common and two epic cards? Doesn't make sense at all.
    So again, stop projection, look at urself in the mirror, it's ugly what u're doing, if are not helping in subject, leave ur rant somewhere else.
    So, Git Gud, play better and stop pretend it's okay. it's ok only in ur fantasy bubble.
    Edit: Queue time for me is less than 15sec, i play always between 8am and 14pm - First I grind and then after reach the max gold cap i started to spank some kids online in ranked, they love to play by start of the day. =)

     Also, what funnier is you say, 'again, stop projecting yourself' when you actually said that to other guy before and not me. Makes every sane people will start questioning who actually projecting himself to other here ain't it?

    First, you claim a thing that definitely a lie. Second, you back it up with a math and do wrong calculation on simple multiplier. Third, you say you want to enjoy the game but then you said the conflicted fact that you play that hyper aggro out of math deck that makes you always end the game in 2 minutes (you don't even realized that it need two people to play the games, means your opponent need to play two minutes games too). And the last one, turns out you can't keep track on with who you were talking.

    Then you said I'm the stupid one. Okay, whatever you said sherlock.. *Seriously this made my day, thanks sir. Your rage really put a genuine laugh in my face right now.

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    posted a message on Im near level 30 and...
    Quote from Rohriant >>
    Quote from MarchofTime >>

    With the old system you would only get 10 gold for an hours play 20 gold if your lucky

     if I were a loser, yes. A winner, guess more than 60 hour...git gud.

     Do you mean 60 gold per hour? Because if it is, then you simply play different game than us. The math will never gives 60 gold per hour in old system.

    This is the math..

    60 gold per hour means 10 gold per 10 minutes. Breakdown it per 10 minutes then..

    Then you need to win 3 games in 10minutes. Even if you are a championship class player, your winrate is never so far more than 75% especially with the new mmr matchmaking. So you have to play at least 4 games to get that 3 win. All in 10minutes.

    Let's say you have 5G Internet connection and play in a very busy player time so you have very short queue time, let's say 15 seconds queue time (including mulligan, it's the fastest queue time+mulligan phase will ever happen). You left with only 8 minutes to actually play that 4 games, makes it 2 minutes per game.

    Now, average turn for fast hearthstone game is about 20 seconds. Ofc we don't have to count the first turn since nothing to decide in first turn anyway. So total turn you play in that 2 minutes game is 6 turns. It was 3 turns for each player, not included the first turn.

    This all come to conclusions that you were saying that all your game is decided on turn 4, either you kill the opponent, your opponent concede or you conceded.

    I have no idea how you can be that gud.

    If I were that gud, I imagine I will never enjoy this game.

     

     you're not that smart ain't you? I've played secret mage and odd pally to reach gold . I've even played this aggro toxic druid for a bit to farm gold , way more fast. And by turn 3-5 i win my games, most of them when grinding, be on ranked wild (better, lot of bad players) or casual wild . So, I will say again, i have videos about it that i didn't posted on youtube and I don't even want anymore, live by stream of Hearhstone is really sad, specially now the game has lesser and lesser viewers and community events.
    But let's go back to Gold per hour, I don't know what kind of player you are, maybe u're not that good, specially when u bring your smart "math" to us, but think with me, if a game doesn't even go trough 4-6 turns how much time did I spent in this match if nobody has peanuts in brain or family problems and like to rope the whole turn? Well, I say and u can redo all ur math - Match time is always between 2minutes and 5minutes - now multiply this for at least 15 games wich gives you more or less (clicking queue right away from the end of each match) 50 gold in 40-50minutes. With so much concede from cringe ppl like you, more yet! so in less than 1h40minutes I finished my games, got 100g and the daily quest. In one week I could reach 1k-1,4gold easily. 
    I'm not an aggro player, I have almost all collection by being half f2p (bought some bundles and preorders untill scholomance since from witchwood) I always was lucky with legendary drops always reaching almost all legend collection since witchwood, except for some cards dusted pure garbage legendaries or just 'cause i didn't wanted to get the missing legendaries counting like 2 or 3 legendaries to complete each collection since them.
    So, I guess you shouldn't project your own incapability to reach some status like this on other ppl. Many ppl are good in this game and play with whatever they want, Aggro, control, combo, meme, DH whatever man. I played my games and when the gold cap was done I changed to control braindead decks like Cubelock, Ress priest, some Armor/Mec'tun druid, some warrior with cards that remove all board and u just play one card for turn but okay, many say these are the "smart decks". Combo decks are the real smart decks, but this game suffers from hard rigged algorythm wich chooses who will get shafted each game, so many combo decks doesn't actually work these days, but still, are the smart ones.
    So, your logic is really flawed and u look like a flustered guy trying to convince ppl this is a bad way to play - there's no bad way to play, there's fun and this system has no fun and lots of obligatory stuff we don't have or don't want it. Quests behind paywalls, like win in arena and stuff like that. if u like to be tricked, is up to you my man, is up to ur dark future, but don't project on us, we don't need ppl like you to shut down a feeling that it's true, we got shafted for f2p is bad but for players that invested money in this game is way worse. How much is enough to have fun or to play the game for real? I have to wait now like two 2weeks to craft a common and two epic cards? Doesn't make sense at all.
    So again, stop projection, look at urself in the mirror, it's ugly what u're doing, if are not helping in subject, leave ur rant somewhere else.
    So, Git Gud, play better and stop pretend it's okay. it's ok only in ur fantasy bubble.
    Edit: Queue time for me is less than 15sec, i play always between 8am and 14pm - First I grind and then after reach the max gold cap i started to spank some kids online in ranked, they love to play by start of the day. =)

     No, your math is even wrong.. please learn to multiply again, kid. LMAO.

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    posted a message on What can Blizzard really do about DH to tone it down a bit?
    Quote from Poghy >>
    Quote from ShadowAldrius >>

    I dunno if DH is actually a problem at the moment, honestly. But I think they'd be well served to nerf Twin Slice and Blade Dance. They're theoretically rotating out in the spring, but they've been a pretty constant problem I think.

    They changed Twin Slice once, but it was more of an Altruis nerf than it was a Twin Slice nerf. If anything I feel like it was a Twin Slice buff.

     AoO is from this year, so no DH card will rotate until 2022.

    On topic, I would rather see a Voracious Reader nerf.

     Twin slice is from demon hunter initiate set. That set will rotate next year. The set only here to fill the cards demon hunter lacks for a year (year of the dragon).

    On topic, with demon hunter going face a lot and warlock barely survive any game and face aggro deck dominate the meta, I think it safe to say that we need 40 health in game now..

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    posted a message on Im near level 30 and...
    Quote from tripzplash >>

    i like the new system alot but there need to give 2x the gold or 2x the exp

     I agreed with this.. 2x exp for win streak maybe..

    Also, since I'm a game developer myself, I know that blizzard won't changed the reward to the old system because the new system actually easier to get balanced when something messed with their in-game currency. Also it is flexible to evaluate since it resets per expansion so they can continuously improve the reward when it's harder to achieve than their expectations (or even tone it down, less reward, to make the next meta stale slower next expansion).

    The only option left is to give this kind of insight. We wants our progress go faster in this system, then what would we like to have?

    Double experience is cool.

    There's also another idea, like..

    Bonus reward for someone who reach X level in the new year. They can add the visual in reward track, on that level (claim before January 1st). Like 1000 gold or something, not a cosmetic please.

    Bonus track each expansion (like a side reward track), that require you to play your favorite class (your choice) in that expansion. So everytime you play that class you get easy experience on that side track.

    Or others like that. Need to back up them with data though, which one is good on both side, player and the company.

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    posted a message on Let's talk gold, like-for-like rewards and "equal pay for equal work"
    Quote from Slage >>
    Quote from Asuryan >>
    Quote from b1ak1ce >>

    Im honestly holding my opinions of the new system until the end of expansion. If my gold is less than 5k its shit and blizzard are greedy and bad, if its more or equal its fine.

     I wish more people had your patience.

    They've already announced that there will be special events to boost XP during the season, so it doesn't make sense to be judging everything until we have more info.

     It doesnt matter if i get more gold by the end of expansion imo. 2 weeks into the expansion i still didnt get my free leg from first 10 packs because i wasnt able to open 10 packs. And i am at level 24. Playing 5 minutes every 3 days just to login concede 6-9 games and leave. I want to play the game i enjoy and like, i want to accomplish something everyday. 

       I can give an example like this, imagine if you were at a job who pays you in total of 90.000 every year, but pays monthly. And then someone else comes in and says , hey we are gonna give you 100.000 yearly, but we are gonna pay by the end of the year. So you are not gonna get any money until the end of the year. It sounds like a profit, but i would highly prefer the 90.000 but monthly over the 100.000 . Thats how this new battle pass feels. Maybe we do get more by the end of they expansion. Maybe it will be better at those times, but i dont care if it costs my entering expansion time because of ridicoulus exp requirements. 

     This just another nonsense to me. Because if you at level 24 now, you got 1200 gold and 4 darkmoon faire packs.. how could you not be able to open 10 packs? Even if all your 1200 gold is invested in arena or heroic brawl and you insta-lose all of them.. it still 8 packs from arena so you have total 12 packs. Yet you just said you can't open 10 packs.. It's not like you buy the wrong pack right?

    Also, at level 24, the reward is still better than the old one. It's only get significantly worse once you reach post level 50. Because after that the exp converted to gold for each level is less than the old system. But before it, especially at level 24, it wasn't at all.

    All this number and so-called fact/experience people tell out here is too fake and drive me crazy now..

    I get it. You don't like the new system, I don't like it too.. but  please.. just keep the fact straight, all right? Because personally, it confused me.

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    posted a message on Competition:First Heartpwn user to reach Level 50 on the reward track!

    This is interesting..

    I am lv 28 now.

    I think most of the player will get around lv 50 on the last week of December and first week of January 2021. Let's see..

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    posted a message on Im near level 30 and...
    Quote from tripzplash >>
    Quote from Rohriant >>

    Sathradog, He (duesentris) speaks for me too at least.. if you follow what this memo333 guy has posted, there's a lot of things he said that simply doesn't adds up. Open his account read his post chronically, be aware with the time he posted and what he said, it will makes you questioning all he said..

    Aside of that, I'm with you, don't worry. I don't really like the new system either, and it should be better. But this memo333 guy's statement simply questionable and hurt to read (for my brain, too many things he said conflicted each other somehow)

     he did achevements this is why hes level 30 now noting to do with what he said... from now on he have no achevments left so it will take A LONG TIME

     Maybe you right.

    But also maybe.. 6 days from now he will reach lv 35 and complaining about the reward on that level. Just maybe..

    Anyway, even though I don't like the new system, I don't like when people being pragmatic and tell lie just to justify their want or guilty pleasure. 

    I mean, if somebody want to complain about things he doesn't like, he can complain it to the creator/company. If he want to discuss thing related to their complain, then create a thread to discuss. But keep everything objective and factual so the discussion moves forward.

    And creating a thread is different than creating a threat.

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    posted a message on Im near level 30 and...
    Quote from sahtradoog >>

    Just ignore him then, no need to spread negativity to anyone other than greedy activision-blizzard

     We can't just ignore when someone tell blatant lie to us. Doesn't it what we said when we assume blizzard tell lie to us?

    So if anyone in community do the same, the same moral value should apply. Unless you have double standard and only accept the fact that go in your favor but ignore the other facts.

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    posted a message on Im near level 30 and...
    Quote from MarchofTime >>

    With the old system you would only get 10 gold for an hours play 20 gold if your lucky

     if I were a loser, yes. A winner, guess more than 60 hour...git gud.

     Do you mean 60 gold per hour? Because if it is, then you simply play different game than us. The math will never gives 60 gold per hour in old system.

    This is the math..

    60 gold per hour means 10 gold per 10 minutes. Breakdown it per 10 minutes then..

    Then you need to win 3 games in 10minutes. Even if you are a championship class player, your winrate is never so far more than 75% especially with the new mmr matchmaking. So you have to play at least 4 games to get that 3 win. All in 10minutes.

    Let's say you have 5G Internet connection and play in a very busy player time so you have very short queue time, let's say 15 seconds queue time (including mulligan, it's the fastest queue time+mulligan phase will ever happen). You left with only 8 minutes to actually play that 4 games, makes it 2 minutes per game.

    Now, average turn for fast hearthstone game is about 20 seconds. Ofc we don't have to count the first turn since nothing to decide in first turn anyway. So total turn you play in that 2 minutes game is 6 turns. It was 3 turns for each player, not included the first turn.

    This all come to conclusions that you were saying that all your game is decided on turn 4, either you kill the opponent, your opponent concede or you conceded.

    I have no idea how you can be that gud.

    If I were that gud, I imagine I will never enjoy this game.

     

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    posted a message on Im near level 30 and...

    Sathradog, He (duesentris) speaks for me too at least.. if you follow what this memo333 guy has posted, there's a lot of things he said that simply doesn't adds up. Open his account read his post chronically, be aware with the time he posted and what he said, it will makes you questioning all he said..

    Aside of that, I'm with you, don't worry. I don't really like the new system either, and it should be better. But this memo333 guy's statement simply questionable and hurt to read (for my brain, too many things he said conflicted each other somehow)

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    posted a message on Im near level 30 and...

    I'm just curious, exactly 6 days ago you create a post that you just reach lv 24. And you spent 3 days for a single level.. you also specifically said that you will need 3 more days to get to another level.. 

    What make you almost reach lv 30 at this day? That 3 times faster than what you said before..

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    posted a message on Questlock C'thun (up to 4 times) (with guide)

    That would be awesome, we will have 2 win condition now.

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