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Just a fun thread. I give two examples to show you what I mean. 

First example is Malorne. As a 7 Mana 9/7 he has above curve stats and the card text is an upside. In vacuum space Malorne is undeniably a good card. But even in the set where it was printed, it was already outclassed in every aspect by the same cost Dr. Boom and thus never played.

 What exactly about Malorne is good???

His effect makes it slightly harder to fatigue a Druid.. That's literally the only benefit. Otherwise his stats and costs were always about the same as War Golem. A card often heralded as the worst fucking card in the entire game.

His only usage was being a semi decent body from RNG cards that spawned or drafted Malorne. He's never been a "good" card that's bad. He's always been an utterly trash legendary

 War golem was never considered the worst card in the game by anyone other than you right now. There are much worse cards in the classic/basic set and even worse in other sets. 

Also I do play Malorne in my Reno druid deck and he is definitely a "bad good card" not even close to being trash. It's a win condition when my opponent burns my Jade Idols. 

Good card is bad : Dragonbane

Bad card is good : Dragonblight Cultist

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The more you'll play Zephrys the more you'll learn what it can and can't offer you and that's when it starts to get good. 

Now you know you can't get Flare against a stealthed frog on turn 4, next time this happens you won't missplay.

I get what you're saying but I imagine it would take huge amount of work from the devs to make Zephrys fully capable of figuring out every board state and do what the player wants to do. Maybe Zephrys could have offered you a flare if there wasn't a spell damage totem, he gave you 2 answers for the spell damage, maybe this was his first priority. 

 To say that this is a "misplay" on the player's part, and not a design flaw in the card, is to be a comedian.

 To focus on that specific part of my post and eluding the rest of it is to be a comedian. Didn't you ask for serious discussion? 

The more you'll play Zephrys the more you'll learn what it can and can't offer you and that's when it starts to get good. 

Now you know you can't get Flare against a stealthed frog on turn 4, next time this happens you won't missplay.

I get what you're saying but I imagine it would take huge amount of work from the devs to make Zephrys fully capable of figuring out every board state and do what the player wants to do. Maybe Zephrys could have offered you a flare if there wasn't a spell damage totem, he gave you 2 answers for the spell damage, maybe this was his first priority. 

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Good card but I'll dust it as soon as it rotates to wild because I still have my golden tunnel troggs, it's kinda sad that they make cards with reverse powercreep. 

 Did you want them to print something better than tunnel trogg?

 God no I'm not that crazy lol. I mean this one drop could have been anything, it's a little sad that it's just a worse version of an existing class card. 

Wild shaman players got 1 less (fewer?) card this expansion

I'm desperate for a unnerfed fiery war axe replacement, this is quite nice. Strictly better than Heroic Strike. 

Whirlwind that hits face and has synergy will all the self damage cards in warlock?

Poeple will sleep in this card. 

This is the end of the 4 mana 7/7 meme, this card is better in my opinion

If it was permanent it would be a nice and fun card, this effect for just one turn seems rather.. Situational. 

Basically 1 charge of Supercollider, seems overpriced. 

Despite how awful the public reception of Gadgetzan was I LOVED playing the expansion.  Every good deck had a unique angle, a clear motive and obvious strengths and weaknesses.  Singleton decks were beyond fascinating; Reno and Kazakus made them incredibly robust and able to play out just about any curve decently well and every game they were in was different.  The only win-con deck was Jades, which required a deck chock-full of Jade cards and showed them as early as turn 1. 

My only gripe throughout the whole expansion was that Pirate Warrior was too luck-based; it could either draw the stone cold nuts or Patches and no curve.  Other than that, Gadgetzan was one of my favorite expansions of all time.  If Scholomance even lives up to THAT for me (not even WotOG) then I'll be happy, especially if any decks can be crafted on a budget.

Yeah - I think this set displays a noticeable shift in design philosophy.

This is unnecessary in my opinion. He was designed as a late game board swing that cheats a lot of mana. The problem is: Warlock already has much more efficient ways to cheat demons. Voidcaller and Skull of the Man'ari are two of the strongest mana cheat engines in the game. Even at 8 mana he is way too slow compared to those two cards and making him better when they pull him is a buff to them and they definitely don't need any extra help. He would surely see play if those two cards didn't exist. There's no reason to buff a card that's already powerful just because it is overshadowed by other totally overpowered cards.

Yes please!

I always liked the card even if it was the worst of the highlander cards. I crafted it long ago just so I could play a weird midrange-ish version of Renolock. There is just something so satisfying about summoning a giant board of demons with that awesome animation ( Same reason I like Bloodreaver Gul'dan haha )

To make it not a demon is kind of weird though. It obviously is some kind of Voidlord which is definitely a demon in both HS and wow lore. Maybe just costing 8 and having taunt is buff enough for it to be good. Even if you get it from Skull of the Man'ari/Voidcaller you wouldn't be too sad cheating out a 7/9 taunt demon.

Renolock hasn't been good for a long time now in wild so this certainly wouldn't make it op.

I'm not sure why you're comparing those cards since they have nothing in common with each other.

Whenever means it triggers before the effect that caused it to trigger, so after you declare the attack, but before it hits

No gold limit you earn per day. 

I earn 100  (+quest)  a day but would be good if there was no limit,

I mean you still need to play for hours and hours.

 The broomstick will soon be nerfed into: Your Rush minions have +1 attack

The broomstick will soon be nerfed into: give +1 attack to Rush minions

Arfus , Toshley and Sir Finley Mrrgglton crying in the corner kekw