People that compare this to Keleseth should look up Keleseths Draw/Win Ratio after turn2 it drops insanely hard and turn 6...?! Also you Keep Keleseth on starting hand it can be bounced by Shadowstep. Rogue has way better cards to play a minion based tempo deck...etcetc.
This is not even remotely close to keleseth. Are you kidding me?!
So you can play this with statues, Ysera and Stuff but than you play control and the question is, does Control need more Attack on minions that when left unchecked win you the game anyways? I doubt it.
Keleseth is a conditional card though. You have to leave out all 2-drops, that's a huge deal.
This card needs nothing. No highlander deck, no odd or even cards, no dragons, nothing. It's stats are fine and it affects many cards in your deck.
1. Stats are not fine its a 6 mana 5/5, doesnt pass the vanilla test. Conclusion stats are insufficient.
2. The effekt has a condition, it has the condition that your minion has more HP than strengh to be usefull. In order to give same + in stats like mistcaller (that proved to be a verry bad card) all minions in your deck have to have 2 more HP than health.
3. Mistcaller proofed and keleseth also, that a minor buff on minions post turn 6 is not a big deal.
1. I don't care about the ''vanilla test''. I said fine, not amazing. It can be a little under average and still be a solid play if the effect is good enough. This effect is.
2. Yeah and how many class card of Priest have giant attack and almost no HP? Very few cards become unuseable because of this ''condition''.
3. Keleseth didn't ''poof'' and was quite successful for a while, until control decks like Spiteful and Cubelock became too oppressive. And Keleseth and Mistcaller are both very different cards with way worse effects. They give +1 +1. Look at the Priest class minions again. High health, low attack...
4. Sure, and use the Quest Priest package. I'll get over not using Twilight Acolyte and the dragons, it's not that crucial.
The amount of "meta-defining" here is astonishing. So let's think up a Standard deck (I assume most players here vote based on the Standard meta) that is good with Lady in White. I'll start by listing the good cards that are also good with Lady in White (no Lightwell, Mogu'shan Warden, Ultrasaur, Lorewalker Cho, or other bad cards/memes):
The reason I don't include cards like Stormwind Knight is because he's ONLY good after you play Lady in White. This makes your deck bad and inconsistent.
After I narrow it down, I don't understand at all how you can form a deck where it is worth it to play Lady in White. I just don't think you can justify running enough minions that she likes buffing to make a good deck.
It's a fun and well-designed card, but I argue that it's bad. Very comparable to Mistcaller.
Why -wouldn't- you include the 'bad' cards? You seem to be thinking 'what cards does this support' instead of 'what supports this card'.
Looking through this thread, everyone keeps saying/thinking "Mistcaller" when instead they should be thinking "quest rogue", except instead of the juggling condition, the condition is "draw this card and survive by turn 7" (which wouldn't be hard given the type of cards you would include in this deck), after which the priest will be able to have a situation the opponent can't play around.
Exactly right. Thank you. People who think this isn't going to make a huge dent in the meta are kidding themselves. The fact you could stick this in any already viable priest decks with no down side other than running a single copy of another card to make room will make this an insta-include. The Mistcaller wasn't even close, Prince Keleseth, while strong enough to make tier 1, also required a whole decklist modified to suit his inclusion. If Lady in White is left untouched, Priest will be hard to beat in the year of the raven.
Yup my thoughts exactly. The key here is that it is a non-conditional card, and Priest is a very different class from Shaman. You don't have to craft a deck around this, just reserve one slot and you're good. Many Priest class cards benefit from this.
What's the point in it saying Cast 'Inner Fire' if the card specifies exactly what that does anyway?
Just have it say, "Change the Attack of all minions in your deck to be equal to their Health."
So you can silence it
didn't consider that, but can't you do that anyways since it's a buff in any case?
i think it will be similar to quest rogue, ( ur minions are 5/5 ) is it similar to " change " ?
Since it specifically says "cast Inner fire", I would imagine all affected minions would be susceptible to silence.
If that is true, I guess we will have another Cubelock situation on our hands, where people tech against mirror matches of their own class. Priest is also the class with a lot of Silence cards.
People that compare this to Keleseth should look up Keleseths Draw/Win Ratio after turn2 it drops insanely hard and turn 6...?! Also you Keep Keleseth on starting hand it can be bounced by Shadowstep. Rogue has way better cards to play a minion based tempo deck...etcetc.
This is not even remotely close to keleseth. Are you kidding me?!
So you can play this with statues, Ysera and Stuff but than you play control and the question is, does Control need more Attack on minions that when left unchecked win you the game anyways? I doubt it.
Keleseth is a conditional card though. You have to leave out all 2-drops, that's a huge deal.
This card needs nothing. No highlander deck, no odd or even cards, no dragons, nothing. It's stats are fine and it affects many cards in your deck.
The amount of "meta-defining" here is astonishing. So let's think up a Standard deck (I assume most players here vote based on the Standard meta) that is good with Lady in White. I'll start by listing the good cards that are also good with Lady in White (no Lightwell, Mogu'shan Warden, Ultrasaur, Lorewalker Cho, or other bad cards/memes):
The reason I don't include cards like Stormwind Knight is because he's ONLY good after you play Lady in White. This makes your deck bad and inconsistent.
After I narrow it down, I don't understand at all how you can form a deck where it is worth it to play Lady in White. I just don't think you can justify running enough minions that she likes buffing to make a good deck.
It's a fun and well-designed card, but I argue that it's bad. Very comparable to Mistcaller.
You don't have to build a whole deck around this card. Your list includes a fine set of cards. I think this can give Quest Priest, a really defensive deck, enough offensive punch to be viable.
WOW
And this card isn't even conditional. You can just play this whenever. Super amazing.