I don't think they should. But I also see where you are coming from. It is certainly directly affected by the nerfs. But that would be like refunding libram of wisdom because of the Pen hits. I get that its directly in the same archetype, but its not the same cards.
I don't think they should. But I also see where you are coming from. It is certainly directly affected by the nerfs. But that would be like refunding libram of wisdom because of the Pen hits. I get that its directly in the same archetype, but its not the same cards.
It is still not good comparison, you still can play libram of wisdom for zero or however you want even when you don't have penflinger, but Kargal won't summon any minions if you don't play posts. It is directly tied to them. However Kargal summons minions for SUMMONED posts so the nerf doesn't block that either so... It still works when you play posts but I think attack nerf would be better. They are just can't attack minions now.
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"Minion to minion the basic of all combats, only a fool trusts his win to an OTK"
Ya'll apparently don't have the Stats but I have. (HSReplay Premium is where to invest @, not mindless Bundles & Cosmetics)
BOTH Watch Towers and Kargal are barely even playable right now, they're.... just barely Meta.
SO...The Nerfs to Watch Towers (WHICH ARE ALREADY BALANCED) will have an DEVASTATING impact on barely playable cards, they would have an lesser (more calibrated) impact if they were extremely overtuned cards like DoL, Jandice, Sword of the Fallen etc... BUT THEY WERE NOT UNFAIR CARDS TO BEGIN WITH. -.-
I will Update this post in 1 week from here with Updated Stats for Towers + Kargal so you can confirm yourselfs what I just said is true.
It is not a predicion but a spoiler that Towers and Kargal WILL get dumped into Tier 3 / Tier 4 Level decks from here on out and everyone will stop playing them, butthat's NOT what I initially crafted. I'am in a state of Buyer's remorse here. Kargal is a unique hard case example of nerfs screwing over people crafting promising Legendarys.
Sorry for pulling a whiny Karen here, but has nothing to do with feeling entitled, we've just got outright punished for spending our Dust on a Legendary that was hard-tied for Ctrl players for a certain type of deck. (Anti aggro package)
I just rather don't wanna have another 4 months of poisonous Aggro Hell , I hope I got my point across... : )
Kargal is much worse than malicia and even she didn't included in many soul dh lists, wonder why people crafted him. Tokens should have rush at least. Maybe he will be supported with mini expansion posts but i doubt as wailing caverns have nothing to do with posts.
Imagine being against this and siding with multimillion company's monetization strategy lol.
It's so strange lol
I understand people trying to apply balance to the discussion but the intense hatred some have to anyone wanting Blizzard to reimburse people after their constant balancing fuck ups is borderline creepy.
Imagine being so retarded you expect dust refunds on every card and associated card with said card that you think making a petition is going to make a difference and blizzard is going to give you mah dust! By this logic, lets petition for dust for whole classes that got affected by one change. You people are completely dumb. B b b but mah dust! Pathetic.
Honestly I didn't have much problem with posts, they shouldn't be nerfed in my opinion. They are just River Crocolisk who can't bite and 3 mana body who does nothing against control, combo.
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"Minion to minion the basic of all combats, only a fool trusts his win to an OTK"
Imagine being so ******** you expect dust refunds on every card and associated card with said card that you think making a petition is going to make a difference and blizzard is going to give you mah dust! By this logic, lets petition for dust for whole classes that got affected by one change. You people are completely dumb. B b b but mah dust! Pathetic.
Khargal is entirely dependant on Watch Posts. Unless they release more Watch Post cards then the card is completely useless and will always be useless, something that wasn't the case a few days ago. As you cannot see the difference between this and Pen Flinger soft nerfing Paladin and Rogue then I'm not surprised by your childish outburst.
Imagine being against this and siding with multimillion company's monetization strategy lol.
While I’m not a fan of some of the tones of the people here, use of common sense and logic =/= “siding with multimillion company”. Don’t paint others as shills when the cause of the problem is misplaced entitlement. It has been repeated time and time again to NOT craft anything during the first two weeks of an expansion. If you decide to do so anyway, it’s your own risk.
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LOL, Look at all the people gatekeeping other players getting a dust refund. Why do you care so much if players get refunded for a card that got nerfed? It doesn't affect you.
Imagine being against this and siding with multimillion company's monetization strategy lol.
While I’m not a fan of some of the tones of the people here, use of common sense and logic =/= “siding with multimillion company”. Don’t paint others as shills when the cause of the problem is misplaced entitlement. It has been repeated time and time again to NOT craft anything during the first two weeks of an expansion. If you decide to do so anyway, it’s your own risk.
And do Blizzard tell us this? I cannot remember receiving a popup in game when the expansion released?
Or are we expecting the millions of HS players to receive their information from the HearthPwn forums?
This petition should call "Petition to Blizzard give free legendary card for nerf in common cards"
I don't think they should. But I also see where you are coming from. It is certainly directly affected by the nerfs. But that would be like refunding libram of wisdom because of the Pen hits. I get that its directly in the same archetype, but its not the same cards.
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It is still not good comparison, you still can play libram of wisdom for zero or however you want even when you don't have penflinger, but Kargal won't summon any minions if you don't play posts. It is directly tied to them. However Kargal summons minions for SUMMONED posts so the nerf doesn't block that either so... It still works when you play posts but I think attack nerf would be better. They are just can't attack minions now.
"Minion to minion the basic of all combats, only a fool trusts his win to an OTK"
Ya'll apparently don't have the Stats but I have. (HSReplay Premium is where to invest @, not mindless Bundles & Cosmetics)
BOTH Watch Towers and Kargal are barely even playable right now, they're.... just barely Meta.
SO...The Nerfs to Watch Towers (WHICH ARE ALREADY BALANCED) will have an DEVASTATING impact on barely playable cards, they would have an lesser (more calibrated) impact if they were extremely overtuned cards like DoL, Jandice, Sword of the Fallen etc... BUT THEY WERE NOT UNFAIR CARDS TO BEGIN WITH. -.-
I will Update this post in 1 week from here with Updated Stats for Towers + Kargal so you can confirm yourselfs what I just said is true.
It is not a predicion but a spoiler that Towers and Kargal WILL get dumped into Tier 3 / Tier 4 Level decks from here on out and everyone will stop playing them, but that's NOT what I initially crafted. I'am in a state of Buyer's remorse here. Kargal is a unique hard case example of nerfs screwing over people crafting promising Legendarys.
Sorry for pulling a whiny Karen here, but has nothing to do with feeling entitled, we've just got outright punished for spending our Dust on a Legendary that was hard-tied for Ctrl players for a certain type of deck. (Anti aggro package)
I just rather don't wanna have another 4 months of poisonous Aggro Hell , I hope I got my point across... : )
Thanks,
- The Control Player
What are you on guys? Blizzard actually buffed posts, look they have insane health pools!!!
"Minion to minion the basic of all combats, only a fool trusts his win to an OTK"
Kargal is much worse than malicia and even she didn't included in many soul dh lists, wonder why people crafted him. Tokens should have rush at least. Maybe he will be supported with mini expansion posts but i doubt as wailing caverns have nothing to do with posts.
Petition to blizzard to give all cards for free.
That’s not how dust refund works buddy
Imagine being against this and siding with multimillion company's monetization strategy lol.
It's so strange lol
I understand people trying to apply balance to the discussion but the intense hatred some have to anyone wanting Blizzard to reimburse people after their constant balancing fuck ups is borderline creepy.
Imagine being so retarded you expect dust refunds on every card and associated card with said card that you think making a petition is going to make a difference and blizzard is going to give you mah dust! By this logic, lets petition for dust for whole classes that got affected by one change. You people are completely dumb. B b b but mah dust! Pathetic.
I think its a rip off, if they don't give a refund for Kargal.
It's about, they knew their watchpost package... saying two weeks after launch the stats aren't right, means they haven't tested at all.
Honestly I didn't have much problem with posts, they shouldn't be nerfed in my opinion. They are just River Crocolisk who can't bite and 3 mana body who does nothing against control, combo.
"Minion to minion the basic of all combats, only a fool trusts his win to an OTK"
Good luck with getting dust from blizzard .. they are too CHEAP to even give us the packs on time..
Khargal is entirely dependant on Watch Posts. Unless they release more Watch Post cards then the card is completely useless and will always be useless, something that wasn't the case a few days ago. As you cannot see the difference between this and Pen Flinger soft nerfing Paladin and Rogue then I'm not surprised by your childish outburst.
While I’m not a fan of some of the tones of the people here, use of common sense and logic =/= “siding with multimillion company”. Don’t paint others as shills when the cause of the problem is misplaced entitlement. It has been repeated time and time again to NOT craft anything during the first two weeks of an expansion. If you decide to do so anyway, it’s your own risk.
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Overwatch 2, Hearthstone, Heroes & Starcraft II
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LOL, Look at all the people gatekeeping other players getting a dust refund. Why do you care so much if players get refunded for a card that got nerfed? It doesn't affect you.
It didnt got nerfed
And do Blizzard tell us this? I cannot remember receiving a popup in game when the expansion released?
Or are we expecting the millions of HS players to receive their information from the HearthPwn forums?
It clearly has though.