Ok. Thank you for reading and responding because I can’t understand how the various deck builders, sites, etc determine this:
So in Glalakrond Warrior there are a lot of decks that try to maximize value by duplicating Scion of Ruin by using Dragon Breeder and or Barista Lynchen but not use War Master Voone for the same purpose. He’s cheaper than Barista and would copy Deathwing as well. Also like the minion that gives 3 armor and a lackey or Livewire Lance.. why not the deal 5 damage to a minion gain 5 armor or the dragon that gives you 5 armor. Like why do lackeys have better synergy/value than other Warrior dragon cards like Smolderhorn Lancer or Motlten Breath etc? Mainly curious about the Voone thing though
Lynchen copies all 3 scions on board, while voone only copies the 1 or 2 in your hand. At least that is the reason I prefer lynchen.
The lackeys are useful tools to fill out your turn. They can easily be fitted in your turn and do useful things. Not sure if they are actually better though, but that is my reasoning
I run dragon breeder because it is cheap and can be comboed to play 6 scions of ruin on the same turn.
I don’t really get the other options you mention except for Barista, which I found to be dead in hand and removed after hitting legend with the deck.
why run voone or molten breath? You literally only have 2 dragons in the deck, both copies of scion of ruin. Why put in so much dragon synergy cards when there are so few dragons? XD
I run dragon breeder because it is cheap and can be comboed to play 6 scions of ruin on the same turn.
I don’t really get the other options you mention except for Barista, which I found to be dead in hand and removed after hitting legend with the deck.
why run voone or molten breath? You literally only have 2 dragons in the deck, both copies of scion of ruin. Why put in so much dragon synergy cards when there are so few dragons? XD
Actually I was looking at different decks and the one that specifically made me wonder about the dragon synergy and Voone the most was the one on the vicioussyndicate website which runs Big Ol’ Welp x2 and Deathwing, Mad Aspect as well. I was just curious because a warrior I met in ranked used Deathwing as well and used Dragon Breeder to duplicate it. That got me looking at decks and noticing the use of the value cards and the use of Deathwing in many decks but no Voone.
I pulled a gold Voone long ago and thought I was gonna have to jump on the warrior bandwagon to see the pretty gold dragons lol
Ok. Thank you for reading and responding because I can’t understand how the various deck builders, sites, etc determine this:
So in Glalakrond Warrior there are a lot of decks that try to maximize value by duplicating Scion of Ruin by using Dragon Breeder and or Barista Lynchen but not use War Master Voone for the same purpose. He’s cheaper than Barista and would copy Deathwing as well. Also like the minion that gives 3 armor and a lackey or Livewire Lance.. why not the deal 5 damage to a minion gain 5 armor or the dragon that gives you 5 armor. Like why do lackeys have better synergy/value than other Warrior dragon cards like Smolderhorn Lancer or Motlten Breath etc? Mainly curious about the Voone thing though
Galakrond Warrior is NOT a value deck, it's a tempo deck that is almost aggro. You run breeder and barista cause they give you more value in form of the multiple scions but the end goal of this interaction is not getting more vaue, it's indeed developing the unholy tempo that scion gives you multiple times.
To answer your questions: Why not Voone over Barista? Easy answer, Voone only copies dragons, Barista copies any battlecry minion. I'm running the VS version so I run 2 Scions, 2 Big Whelp and Warrior Deathwing so she has the chance of copying those 4 dragons cause they are all battlecries but the key part of this interaction is that she can copy 3 Scions at once WHILE they are on board. This is a tempo deck, stats on board are better than cards on hand, and Barista will on average give you 3 Scions while Voone can only give you 2. Also Voone is bad, the specific dragon tag needed for his interaction makes him a weaker card overall, Dragon Warrior is not a good deck, and all the good dragons you run happen to have battlecries so why wouldn't you just run barista and copy them while also copying other important cards like Maniac and Shield so that makes her the superior choice. Breeder is just a cheap card that allows you to copy your best card (Scion) and get more tempo on the immediate future, he's also vanilla stated so if you have to drop it on curve just for the tempo it isn't terrible. He can also copy any of the other dragons and It's a battlecry so more barista value.
In terms of lackeys: They are just insane, every single one of them has a lot of applications, you can get 2 minions for 2 mana, or deal 2 damage, or get health and taunt (Which is pretty good on tempo match-ups, or gain the ability to kill something with +1att and rush or allow you to discover a dragon. They all help you to fill your curve. Livewire is good cause it gives you 4 damage and also generates 2 lackeys,it isn't good cause of the 4 damage or the 2 lackeys, it's good cause it does both by just playing 1 card. Same line of thought with quartermaster, he isn't good for the stats or the reason that he gives you 1 lackey or the fact that you get 3 armor, he's good cause he does all of those in just 1 card, you honestly are not particularly interested on the 3 armor so that's the reason you don't play the 5 mana dragon, you are interested in getting stats on board (And quartermaster comes earlier) and getting that nice lackey that will help you later on, the 3 armor is just a nice bonus and giving you armor is all the 5 mana dragon does, so it's bad. Also, the same problem that Voone has, the drake needs for you to have a dragon in your hand to get its effect off, quartermaster has no requirements to go off, thus is better and it comes down earlier, thus is way better.
You have to understand that Galakrond Warrior is a tempo deck and stats on board (and earlier stats) are always better than cards on hand and also the fact that Barista copies every battlecry while Voone only gives you dragons. Also Voone is just bad, he has always been terrible, if the card can't work on an expansion that introduced some good and some other decent ones dragons while having some other dragon synergies on the Warrior class from before, it just means that the card is bad. Dragon Warrior is not a bad deck per se but it's just too fair to ever be viable, the way this game works is that fair decks are no way near enough, your deck needs to be doing something busted that abuses some mechanic, every meta deck does that, and Dragon Warrior has no way of doing such a thing, it's just a fair deck with fair minions that plays stuff with their actual cost. Every meta deck has some sort of mana cheating mechanic or a particular set of cards that either does something busted or it's so specific that wins you the game.
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Ok. Thank you for reading and responding because I can’t understand how the various deck builders, sites, etc determine this:
So in Glalakrond Warrior there are a lot of decks that try to maximize value by duplicating Scion of Ruin by using Dragon Breeder and or Barista Lynchen but not use War Master Voone for the same purpose. He’s cheaper than Barista and would copy Deathwing as well. Also like the minion that gives 3 armor and a lackey or Livewire Lance.. why not the deal 5 damage to a minion gain 5 armor or the dragon that gives you 5 armor. Like why do lackeys have better synergy/value than other Warrior dragon cards like Smolderhorn Lancer or Motlten Breath etc? Mainly curious about the Voone thing though
Lynchen copies all 3 scions on board, while voone only copies the 1 or 2 in your hand. At least that is the reason I prefer lynchen.
The lackeys are useful tools to fill out your turn. They can easily be fitted in your turn and do useful things. Not sure if they are actually better though, but that is my reasoning
I run dragon breeder because it is cheap and can be comboed to play 6 scions of ruin on the same turn.
I don’t really get the other options you mention except for Barista, which I found to be dead in hand and removed after hitting legend with the deck.
why run voone or molten breath? You literally only have 2 dragons in the deck, both copies of scion of ruin. Why put in so much dragon synergy cards when there are so few dragons? XD
Actually I was looking at different decks and the one that specifically made me wonder about the dragon synergy and Voone the most was the one on the vicioussyndicate website which runs Big Ol’ Welp x2 and Deathwing, Mad Aspect as well. I was just curious because a warrior I met in ranked used Deathwing as well and used Dragon Breeder to duplicate it. That got me looking at decks and noticing the use of the value cards and the use of Deathwing in many decks but no Voone.
I pulled a gold Voone long ago and thought I was gonna have to jump on the warrior bandwagon to see the pretty gold dragons lol
Galakrond Warrior is NOT a value deck, it's a tempo deck that is almost aggro. You run breeder and barista cause they give you more value in form of the multiple scions but the end goal of this interaction is not getting more vaue, it's indeed developing the unholy tempo that scion gives you multiple times.
To answer your questions: Why not Voone over Barista? Easy answer, Voone only copies dragons, Barista copies any battlecry minion. I'm running the VS version so I run 2 Scions, 2 Big Whelp and Warrior Deathwing so she has the chance of copying those 4 dragons cause they are all battlecries but the key part of this interaction is that she can copy 3 Scions at once WHILE they are on board. This is a tempo deck, stats on board are better than cards on hand, and Barista will on average give you 3 Scions while Voone can only give you 2. Also Voone is bad, the specific dragon tag needed for his interaction makes him a weaker card overall, Dragon Warrior is not a good deck, and all the good dragons you run happen to have battlecries so why wouldn't you just run barista and copy them while also copying other important cards like Maniac and Shield so that makes her the superior choice. Breeder is just a cheap card that allows you to copy your best card (Scion) and get more tempo on the immediate future, he's also vanilla stated so if you have to drop it on curve just for the tempo it isn't terrible. He can also copy any of the other dragons and It's a battlecry so more barista value.
In terms of lackeys: They are just insane, every single one of them has a lot of applications, you can get 2 minions for 2 mana, or deal 2 damage, or get health and taunt (Which is pretty good on tempo match-ups, or gain the ability to kill something with +1att and rush or allow you to discover a dragon. They all help you to fill your curve. Livewire is good cause it gives you 4 damage and also generates 2 lackeys,it isn't good cause of the 4 damage or the 2 lackeys, it's good cause it does both by just playing 1 card. Same line of thought with quartermaster, he isn't good for the stats or the reason that he gives you 1 lackey or the fact that you get 3 armor, he's good cause he does all of those in just 1 card, you honestly are not particularly interested on the 3 armor so that's the reason you don't play the 5 mana dragon, you are interested in getting stats on board (And quartermaster comes earlier) and getting that nice lackey that will help you later on, the 3 armor is just a nice bonus and giving you armor is all the 5 mana dragon does, so it's bad. Also, the same problem that Voone has, the drake needs for you to have a dragon in your hand to get its effect off, quartermaster has no requirements to go off, thus is better and it comes down earlier, thus is way better.
You have to understand that Galakrond Warrior is a tempo deck and stats on board (and earlier stats) are always better than cards on hand and also the fact that Barista copies every battlecry while Voone only gives you dragons. Also Voone is just bad, he has always been terrible, if the card can't work on an expansion that introduced some good and some other decent ones dragons while having some other dragon synergies on the Warrior class from before, it just means that the card is bad. Dragon Warrior is not a bad deck per se but it's just too fair to ever be viable, the way this game works is that fair decks are no way near enough, your deck needs to be doing something busted that abuses some mechanic, every meta deck does that, and Dragon Warrior has no way of doing such a thing, it's just a fair deck with fair minions that plays stuff with their actual cost. Every meta deck has some sort of mana cheating mechanic or a particular set of cards that either does something busted or it's so specific that wins you the game.