I can't consider my self as a rich one when it comes to hearthstone so almost everytime i got one or two shots for making a deck. And because of that i have to be sure about the deck that i am about to make. So whic site is more trustable. I mean i wanna make a bomb warrior deck for example i can't know how am i gonna choose one. Cause there is to many deck out there.
For example when it comes to hs replay it got most popular deck and best working deck section for every deck. Wich one is the one that i should go for? If you look at the mathematical stats if i go for bomb warrior most popular deck got %57 winrate out of 241 511 games and the best working deck got %62 winrate out of 695 games. So in that case the one with the %57 winrate called most popular deck is more reliatable right?
And it is not just that. We got tempostorm, most popular decks from hearthpwn, also hearthstonetop decks blah blah blah...
It is just so frustrating to choose a deck to build. I got six diffrent bomb warrior deck to choose one from. It is annoying.
So what is the site you guys are using for building your decks? Please help me. Please suggest me a good website that i can get my decks out of it. And even if you not gonna suggest anything just tell me that i am right about hs replay meta thing. I mean the deck with %57 win rate out of 250 000 games better then the deck got % 62 win rate out of 695 right?
For sites that give you data on the decks like winrate and games played, you can't trust stuff with a low sample size. Anything over 50k games played is usually pretty reliable.
Personally, I've always been a fan of properly written guides for decks which most sites don't have. You can certainly figure out your own kinda guide by interpreting data, but a nice written piece can tell you way more.
Ultimately, all the sites are good for different reasons. Use all the tools available to help guide your decision.
I also believe you can never trust the sites 100%, as your opponents will read those sources too, and there will always be a slight "lag" before the data catches up.
I have usually had the most success starting off with a common build but then make personal tech changes based on what I am facing. This can also surprise your opponent if they also did their homework on their opponent's decks.
Tempo Storm is awful. Go there for a chuckle, not for meta reporting.
hearthstonetopdecks.com is good for finding decks like Pwn is, but I like the deck builder a bit better HSReplay is solid for finding out what's popular, not necessarily good. it's a reactive site Vicious Syndicate is great for not only reporting accurately, but giving bits of advice about matchups on top of the report. They only report weekly though, so any big changes in the meta are often literally last week's news.
All of these options are only reactive and rarely offer decks that will last the whole meta, which brings me to my main point: it is rare to find a site that can offer you a single deck that will last an entire expansion without changing wildly or dropping out of the meta. We don't have broken cards like Baku and Genn in standard anymore (thank GOD), so it's unlikely to see anything that won't get nerfed or countered within 2 weeks.
My recommendation is to find cards that players and pros all agree have staying power (the shining example being Zilliax from Boomsday. Seriously, if you don't own this card, craft it NOW) and try to find decks that not only perform well but fit your play style. This approach lets you diversify if/when the meta shifts, allowing you to suffer the least for the most advantageous card choices.
Right now, it's likely that warrior and rogue get nerfed after the current tournament closes out. Hunter will very likely regain popularity in the interim, and if there's anything viable that counters that, it will temper hunter's popularity on ladder or die trying.
As far as using these sites to figure out your best options, I think you're on the right track regarding HSReplay, but again don't rely solely on these sites to guide your choices. You have to try and assess the meta with the data you see. Rogue defines the game right now, and warrior preys on rogue as best it can. Both are likely to get nerfed, so it's a little risky to invest dust in cards for those classes if you're after longevity, but that's never promised.
I hope this helped at least a little bit, since I basically said a long "Yeah, good luck." We're all facing a similar problem, but I know having a limited collection really cripples your options. I hope you end up with a deck you like to play and a positive win ratio!
Best of luck!
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I can't consider my self as a rich one when it comes to hearthstone so almost everytime i got one or two shots for making a deck. And because of that i have to be sure about the deck that i am about to make. So whic site is more trustable. I mean i wanna make a bomb warrior deck for example i can't know how am i gonna choose one. Cause there is to many deck out there.
For example when it comes to hs replay it got most popular deck and best working deck section for every deck. Wich one is the one that i should go for? If you look at the mathematical stats if i go for bomb warrior most popular deck got %57 winrate out of 241 511 games and the best working deck got %62 winrate out of 695 games. So in that case the one with the %57 winrate called most popular deck is more reliatable right?
And it is not just that. We got tempostorm, most popular decks from hearthpwn, also hearthstonetop decks blah blah blah...
It is just so frustrating to choose a deck to build. I got six diffrent bomb warrior deck to choose one from. It is annoying.
So what is the site you guys are using for building your decks? Please help me. Please suggest me a good website that i can get my decks out of it.
And even if you not gonna suggest anything just tell me that i am right about hs replay meta thing. I mean the deck with %57 win rate out of 250 000 games better then the deck got % 62 win rate out of 695 right?
For sites that give you data on the decks like winrate and games played, you can't trust stuff with a low sample size. Anything over 50k games played is usually pretty reliable.
Personally, I've always been a fan of properly written guides for decks which most sites don't have. You can certainly figure out your own kinda guide by interpreting data, but a nice written piece can tell you way more.
Ultimately, all the sites are good for different reasons. Use all the tools available to help guide your decision.
I also believe you can never trust the sites 100%, as your opponents will read those sources too, and there will always be a slight "lag" before the data catches up.
I have usually had the most success starting off with a common build but then make personal tech changes based on what I am facing. This can also surprise your opponent if they also did their homework on their opponent's decks.
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trustable is that a new hearthstone word?
Tempo Storm is awful. Go there for a chuckle, not for meta reporting.
hearthstonetopdecks.com is good for finding decks like Pwn is, but I like the deck builder a bit better
HSReplay is solid for finding out what's popular, not necessarily good. it's a reactive site
Vicious Syndicate is great for not only reporting accurately, but giving bits of advice about matchups on top of the report. They only report weekly though, so any big changes in the meta are often literally last week's news.
All of these options are only reactive and rarely offer decks that will last the whole meta, which brings me to my main point: it is rare to find a site that can offer you a single deck that will last an entire expansion without changing wildly or dropping out of the meta. We don't have broken cards like Baku and Genn in standard anymore (thank GOD), so it's unlikely to see anything that won't get nerfed or countered within 2 weeks.
My recommendation is to find cards that players and pros all agree have staying power (the shining example being Zilliax from Boomsday. Seriously, if you don't own this card, craft it NOW) and try to find decks that not only perform well but fit your play style. This approach lets you diversify if/when the meta shifts, allowing you to suffer the least for the most advantageous card choices.
Right now, it's likely that warrior and rogue get nerfed after the current tournament closes out. Hunter will very likely regain popularity in the interim, and if there's anything viable that counters that, it will temper hunter's popularity on ladder or die trying.
As far as using these sites to figure out your best options, I think you're on the right track regarding HSReplay, but again don't rely solely on these sites to guide your choices. You have to try and assess the meta with the data you see. Rogue defines the game right now, and warrior preys on rogue as best it can. Both are likely to get nerfed, so it's a little risky to invest dust in cards for those classes if you're after longevity, but that's never promised.
I hope this helped at least a little bit, since I basically said a long "Yeah, good luck." We're all facing a similar problem, but I know having a limited collection really cripples your options. I hope you end up with a deck you like to play and a positive win ratio!
Best of luck!
Rage quitting: the best way to ensure your opponent knows they beat a giant baby.
vicious syndicate report is the best. everything else is pure garbage
Completely agree. Their reports are by far the most accurate and helpful from my experience.