It's hard to argue that Zoo is "broken" when it gets crushed by Warriors and- best case scenario- breaks even against Hunters, the two most popular classes in the current meta.
2. AoE spells are also your best friend, powered by Spell Damage + (that's why I include Hellfire if it's Zoo vs. Zoo)
3. The challenge with Zoolock is to actually bring it to the point where the mana curve favors you.
If you are truly encountering a bunch of zoo and not a lot of control decks feel free to pop in some Deathlord action. It trades minimum 2 cards and they get one random one back. That's also being quite generous for the zoo. Normally it's at least 3 cards to take it down.
Op is so on tilt of course it feels like 70%. Zoo is easily beaten, you just have to accept that playing decks outside of your favorites for a while here is how you get through the ranks. i don't play much zoo btw. I love playing against them.
Yeah, I also forgot Deathlord. Since Zoolocks tend to run low-cost minions the worst that Deathlord would pull out would probably be Doomguard or Argent Commander (which are the usual high-cost minions of Zoolock).
Were you complaining when miracle was ruling the roost I wonder? Since your favorite class is Rogue.
If you searched first, you'd have found many threads complaining about Zoo and/or Zoolock decks, somewhere among all the individual complain threads about Hunters.
a) Rogue was never "broken"
b) I've been playing priest for the last few seasons
c) Hunter is broken as fuck, too. But at least you can reliably counter him. Zoolock is a pure luckfest that always favors Zoolock.
a) miracle is the most ridiculously 'broken' bag of trickery in the game! just because you say it's not, doesn't mean it isn't.
b) Priest has some broken elements too, you don't mind stealing quarter of your opponent's deck eh?
c) Hunter needed a boost, it's just popular because it's playable again and people who stick to other classes are all butthurt
d) stop moaning about anything that doesn't suit YOU
I tend to side on hasnt this been talked about enough. Zoolock is beatable but you they are not as dependent on card draw but are on starting hand.Play it to see how to beat it is what I did. I still play it for quests but thats it, ladder I Use other decks depending on rank.
blizzard plz fix/nerf everything so we can have a new game, thanks!
on a sidenote, if zoo is broken then whatever beats zoo is even more broken....whatever beats the thing that beats zoo should be the most broken deck in hearthstone...please fix the broken stuff already thanks!
Been loving mild-aggro priest for early board presence. I never emote unless I am playing zoo then thoroughly enjoy priest taunting them. Zoo isn't a bother for me anymore.
on a sidenote, if zoo is broken then whatever beats zoo is even more broken....whatever beats the thing that beats zoo should be the most broken deck in hearthstone...please fix the broken stuff already thanks!
Don't see the logic in that. For the sake of explanation, pretend the 'broken' deck in the current meta is the Reynad Hunter deck(substitute in for Zoo in your quote).Backspace Rogue dominates the Reynad Hunter deck, but Backspace Rogue is far from broken as it has weak matchups against alot of other classes.
Taunt Druid always did well for me both vs Hunter and Zoolock.
Really? Wild growth and Innervate are always nice to have in the starting hand, but I find that against classes with a strong early game like Hunter and Zoo they are almost a requirement; Hero Powering from turns 1-3 is a death sentence if your opponent has a curve of early game minions that can't all be cleared by a swipe.
Haha, I laugh at Zoolock with my top three decks. Priest with auchenai...I have a good 5-7 cards for immediate board control against zoolock. Mage Taunt. I shut them down early enough to live and board wipe often. Devlish Dance. I don't play warlock zoo, but I do play warlock "Oh god everything here is a combo I have to play around it!" Easy enough to deal with.
It's a little unbalanced, certainly, but balance tends to be boring. There are ways around it and you don't even need to build your whole deck around killing Zoo like you might for the new mad scientist hunter or Miracle. End of the day, it's another glass cannon all or nothing theme. People either win by turn 5-7 or they die HARD. I think that's a dumb way to play, but others keep throwing them at me, so I'll keep knocking them down.
i understand if ppl rages about hunters nowadays...
but zoo???? really come on... what a let down...
can we hear ppl say omg paladin is overpowered, omg druid is too strong, plz nerf....
i want those to happen, why won't this be the case...
you'll see it eventually, just wait!
It's hard to argue that Zoo is "broken" when it gets crushed by Warriors and- best case scenario- breaks even against Hunters, the two most popular classes in the current meta.
Some counters I use against Zoo:
1. Unstable Ghoul, Wild Pyromancer & Abomination are a few neutral minions that can give Zoo. Big minions with taunt.
2. AoE spells are also your best friend, powered by Spell Damage + (that's why I include Hellfire if it's Zoo vs. Zoo)
3. The challenge with Zoolock is to actually bring it to the point where the mana curve favors you.
If you are truly encountering a bunch of zoo and not a lot of control decks feel free to pop in some Deathlord action. It trades minimum 2 cards and they get one random one back. That's also being quite generous for the zoo. Normally it's at least 3 cards to take it down.
Op is so on tilt of course it feels like 70%. Zoo is easily beaten, you just have to accept that playing decks outside of your favorites for a while here is how you get through the ranks. i don't play much zoo btw. I love playing against them.
Yeah, I also forgot Deathlord. Since Zoolocks tend to run low-cost minions the worst that Deathlord would pull out would probably be Doomguard or Argent Commander (which are the usual high-cost minions of Zoolock).
Hes like 5% important, sub him for something, maybe a small demon or whatever? Hes not that important. It is a super fun deck!
a) miracle is the most ridiculously 'broken' bag of trickery in the game! just because you say it's not, doesn't mean it isn't.
b) Priest has some broken elements too, you don't mind stealing quarter of your opponent's deck eh?
c) Hunter needed a boost, it's just popular because it's playable again and people who stick to other classes are all butthurt
d) stop moaning about anything that doesn't suit YOU
"It's not Zoolock, sorry."
pshh..l it's not tho, your right lolz.. its a very good warlock deck tho.. its a auto win to like half the heros!
ok thx :)
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I tend to side on hasnt this been talked about enough. Zoolock is beatable but you they are not as dependent on card draw but are on starting hand.Play it to see how to beat it is what I did. I still play it for quests but thats it, ladder I Use other decks depending on rank.
it seems every single deck in game is "broken"
blizzard plz fix/nerf everything so we can have a new game, thanks!
on a sidenote, if zoo is broken then whatever beats zoo is even more broken....whatever beats the thing that beats zoo should be the most broken deck in hearthstone...please fix the broken stuff already thanks!
Besides Hunters...
Get with it.
Been loving mild-aggro priest for early board presence. I never emote unless I am playing zoo then thoroughly enjoy priest taunting them. Zoo isn't a bother for me anymore.
Hunters on the other hand...
Don't see the logic in that. For the sake of explanation, pretend the 'broken' deck in the current meta is the Reynad Hunter deck(substitute in for Zoo in your quote).Backspace Rogue dominates the Reynad Hunter deck, but Backspace Rogue is far from broken as it has weak matchups against alot of other classes.
Really? Wild growth and Innervate are always nice to have in the starting hand, but I find that against classes with a strong early game like Hunter and Zoo they are almost a requirement; Hero Powering from turns 1-3 is a death sentence if your opponent has a curve of early game minions that can't all be cleared by a swipe.
Haha, I laugh at Zoolock with my top three decks. Priest with auchenai...I have a good 5-7 cards for immediate board control against zoolock. Mage Taunt. I shut them down early enough to live and board wipe often. Devlish Dance. I don't play warlock zoo, but I do play warlock "Oh god everything here is a combo I have to play around it!" Easy enough to deal with.
It's a little unbalanced, certainly, but balance tends to be boring. There are ways around it and you don't even need to build your whole deck around killing Zoo like you might for the new mad scientist hunter or Miracle. End of the day, it's another glass cannon all or nothing theme. People either win by turn 5-7 or they die HARD. I think that's a dumb way to play, but others keep throwing them at me, so I'll keep knocking them down.
If you haven't figured out how to beat it yet, the zoo deck isn't the problem. Sorry.