It is currently the only class without a tier 1 or tier 2 deck. The only druid deck at dreamhack was a beast druid by Orange.
Of course the nerfs that came with standard were devastating, together with C'thun (who was pushed by Blizzard very hard in druid) not being the force that people thought. The keeper nerf was the most impactful, as for a class with terrible removal having a deal 2 damage or silence on a decent body was such a lynchpin.
It is currently the only class without a tier 1 or tier 2 deck. The only druid deck at dreamhack was a beast druid by Orange.
Of course the nerfs that came with standard were devastating, together with C'thun (who was pushed by Blizzard very hard in druid) not being the force that people thought. The keeper nerf was the most impactful, as for a class with terrible removal having a deal 2 damage or silence on a decent body was such a lynchpin.
Yea they really gutted the class going into a unknown meta. They really overreacted. Breaking the combo would have been enough.
I got to rank 8 last season with Beast Druid and C'thun Druid is at least tier 2.
No Druid starts at tier 3 right now in standard meta, every other class has a tier 2 or higher i believe. so by the data druid is the lowest in the meta at the moment.
apparently all the crying works, that's why everyone is crying about Shamans now. Blizz has show that is the path.
yea our removal being forced to give your opponents free cards and creatures is just kicking us while we are down. every other class has better removal.
It's not true. Hunter is worser than druid. At least druid has ramp and c'thun (or maybe this beast thing). What about hunter? Only this deathrattle deck which one you need play on curve or better to concade
I got to rank 8 last season with Beast Druid and C'thun Druid is at least tier 2.
You can definitely still ladder and do decently with Druid if that's what floats your boat. Just compared to where it was before, it feels like the class got really gutted Even when you are running dedicated, optimized lists (Beast, Midrange, Ramp, C'thun) the whole class lacks the same oomph as it did before where your plays just don't feel as impactful compared to other classes unless you have a truly outstanding draw withInnervate shenanigans.
It will be really interesting to see what Blizzard chooses to do with Druid in the expansions to come because right now, it doesn't feel like there is anything that the class does exceptionally well and it has a lot of weaknesses (Lack of tempo outside of ramp, very few recovery options, situational win conditions) that it has to try and overcome. Still, very happy with cards like Fandral Staghelm and Dark Arakoa and how they perform, just need some more stuff to really solidify a high tier deck.
It's not true. Hunter is worser than druid. At least druid has ramp and c'thun (or maybe this beast thing). What about hunter? Only this deathrattle deck which one you need play on curve or better to concade
hunter is tier 2 right now, call of the wild is good stuff
The reason for nerfing Keeper of the Grove and Ancient of Lore was completly retarded. They said that those card were included in almost every popular druid deck, and so deserved to be nerfed, so why they didn't nerf cards like Fireball and Fiery War Axe, that are almost always included in every mage and warrior decks out there respectively? Of course, I'm not saying they should have nerfed this mage and warrior class cards, only that their reason for nerfing the druid ones made no sense. But I know, this shouldn't be a surprise, Blizzard liyng in our faces is nothing new...
Turn 1 Innervate/Twilight Elder, turn 5 twin Vek'lors, and/or Brann/C'Thun which can, will, and has killed anything I've seen since April. Ramp Druid is at worst tier 2, at least as good as N'Zoth Paladin.
Turn 1 Innervate/Twilight Elder, turn 5 twin Vek'lors, and/or Brann/C'Thun which can, will, and has killed anything I've seen since April. Ramp Druid is at worst tier 2, at least as good as N'Zoth Palladin.
Speaking of hunter, it is struggling, but it has a tier 2 deck in mid range hunter. Druid is in a real bad place now, which is why it is virtually absent in ladder above rank 15.
I don't get the Keeper nerf at all. Why would you play a silence for 4 mana and get a 2/2 body when Spellbreaker gets a 4/3 body for for the same cost. Yes, you can also do 2 damage with Keeper, but that was balanced with a 2/4 body. I can see changing Ancient of Lore to draw 1 card or 5 heath, but they should have changed the stats to 6/6 body at least. Druid now suffers to control decks with no good burst, and with no board wipes if Druid gets behind on board might as well concede. Druid the new Shaman.
Also as much as I respect tempostorm you can make your C'thun or ramp to counter a meta better adding tech or odd cards making it better against the top decks.
Some people give too much credit to websites. "Tier lists" are PERCEIVED lists by players, usually pro players, but it varies by PERCEPTION. The best snapshots are those that compile a lot of the pros opinion and then see which class and decks got more "votes".
That said, druid is easily tier 2 in a LOT of pros perception. Ask StrifeCro, Dog ( Dog was destroying with ramp druid at rank ~30, I battled him and lost), Trump, etc.
These are the ones i'm pretty sure that have played druid and said it's very good despite the nerfs, at least tier 2.
In MY perception, there's no such thing as a worst class right now. But there are the best ones: Shaman, Warrior and Rogue. All others are tier 2.
It is currently the only class without a tier 1 or tier 2 deck. The only druid deck at dreamhack was a beast druid by Orange.
Of course the nerfs that came with standard were devastating, together with C'thun (who was pushed by Blizzard very hard in druid) not being the force that people thought. The keeper nerf was the most impactful, as for a class with terrible removal having a deal 2 damage or silence on a decent body was such a lynchpin.
druid has removals.just bad ones
I got to rank 8 last season with Beast Druid and C'thun Druid is at least tier 2.
apparently all the crying works, that's why everyone is crying about Shamans now. Blizz has show that is the path.
Try adding Mulch to your deck list if you're playing a Midrange style. I've been having great luck with a quirky Ramp Druid deck.
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It's not true. Hunter is worser than druid. At least druid has ramp and c'thun (or maybe this beast thing). What about hunter? Only this deathrattle deck which one you need play on curve or better to concade
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The reason for nerfing Keeper of the Grove and Ancient of Lore was completly retarded. They said that those card were included in almost every popular druid deck, and so deserved to be nerfed, so why they didn't nerf cards like Fireball and Fiery War Axe, that are almost always included in every mage and warrior decks out there respectively? Of course, I'm not saying they should have nerfed this mage and warrior class cards, only that their reason for nerfing the druid ones made no sense. But I know, this shouldn't be a surprise, Blizzard liyng in our faces is nothing new...
Turn 1 Innervate/Twilight Elder, turn 5 twin Vek'lors, and/or Brann/C'Thun which can, will, and has killed anything I've seen since April. Ramp Druid is at worst tier 2, at least as good as N'Zoth Paladin.
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Speaking of hunter, it is struggling, but it has a tier 2 deck in mid range hunter. Druid is in a real bad place now, which is why it is virtually absent in ladder above rank 15.
and what?somebody has to be worst and now its turn for druid.He has been best class for long so why not.
I don't get the Keeper nerf at all. Why would you play a silence for 4 mana and get a 2/2 body when Spellbreaker gets a 4/3 body for for the same cost. Yes, you can also do 2 damage with Keeper, but that was balanced with a 2/4 body. I can see changing Ancient of Lore to draw 1 card or 5 heath, but they should have changed the stats to 6/6 body at least. Druid now suffers to control decks with no good burst, and with no board wipes if Druid gets behind on board might as well concede. Druid the new Shaman.
Combo druid was the top deck for 5 months!!
Also as much as I respect tempostorm you can make your C'thun or ramp to counter a meta better adding tech or odd cards making it better against the top decks.
I reached rank 2 with druid this season and i am certain it is extremely strong this version, unless you do that cthun rubbish
You're kidding right? Its average now not worst. After killing meta for months with combo shit its more than enough for druid.
Some people give too much credit to websites. "Tier lists" are PERCEIVED lists by players, usually pro players, but it varies by PERCEPTION. The best snapshots are those that compile a lot of the pros opinion and then see which class and decks got more "votes".
That said, druid is easily tier 2 in a LOT of pros perception. Ask StrifeCro, Dog ( Dog was destroying with ramp druid at rank ~30, I battled him and lost), Trump, etc.
These are the ones i'm pretty sure that have played druid and said it's very good despite the nerfs, at least tier 2.
In MY perception, there's no such thing as a worst class right now. But there are the best ones: Shaman, Warrior and Rogue. All others are tier 2.
EDIT: Spelling.