Just kinda surprised when I logged in this morning they didn't do anything at all for Christmas. you know maybe a free pack or 2 something like that. what a bunch of cheap skates.
I see this a lot about games, had someone complain that fifa didn't do anything for Christmas day either. My question is why on earth would they? What other company just gives you free things at Christmas? The supermarket you go to, did they give you anything? Who else would you expect a handout from because this seems to be a bit of a game mentality, where people who play games have set their own expectations of free things on Christmas day and are then disappointed when this doesn't happen.
Just kinda surprised when I logged in this morning they didn't do anything at all for Christmas. you know maybe a free pack or 2 something like that. what a bunch of cheap skates.
If you thought that was bad, i didn't get a single christmas present in real life this year.
Just kinda surprised when I logged in this morning they didn't do anything at all for Christmas. you know maybe a free pack or 2 something like that. what a bunch of cheap skates.
If you thought that was bad, i didn't get a single christmas present in real life this year.
Just kinda surprised when I logged in this morning they didn't do anything at all for Christmas. you know maybe a free pack or 2 something like that. what a bunch of cheap skates.
If you thought that was bad, i didn't get a single christmas present in real life this year.
Me too, but thats not a bad thing
Did somebody get something? I thought it was a legend...
Just kinda surprised when I logged in this morning they didn't do anything at all for Christmas. you know maybe a free pack or 2 something like that. what a bunch of cheap skates.
If you thought that was bad, i didn't get a single christmas present in real life this year.
I only received the unconditional love of my beloved ones this year, and that's more than enough for me!!! :D :D :D
Just kinda surprised when I logged in this morning they didn't do anything at all for Christmas. you know maybe a free pack or 2 something like that. what a bunch of cheap skates.
Blizzard is not charity, neither they work for Santa Clauss. If you really wanted a Christmas present so desperately, you should have buyed it yourself. ;)
You shouldn't expect generosity from Blizzard. They cannot take that kind of loss, you are expecting them to give you free digital content, which isn't real, doesn't cost them real resources, since the digital asset is already created and requires no additional cost to produce to give away.
In all honestly, I do find it odd. As stated, the digital asset already exists and is infinite, requires no single investment at this point to produce more of it, so they could give away as many as they wanted, there is no restriction of limited resources like it is the case for other products or content. They simply didn't want to give away stuff.
Each time Blizzard gives away free stuff, they are losing future sales, that's the point. If we weren't living in a world were money plays an extremely important role, I would gladly agree with you, DiamondDM13, but unfortunately that's not the case. We cannot blame Blizzard for giving a lot of importance to something that really deserves such amount of importance, just as almost everyone does.
Just kinda surprised when I logged in this morning they didn't do anything at all for Christmas. you know maybe a free pack or 2 something like that. what a bunch of cheap skates.
If you thought that was bad, i didn't get a single christmas present in real life this year.
I only received the unconditional love of my beloved ones this year, and that's more than enough for me!!! :D :D :D
Each time Blizzard gives away free stuff, they are losing future sales, that's the point. If we weren't living in a world were money plays an extremely important role, I would gladly agree with you, DiamondDM13, but unfortunately that's not the case. We cannot blame Blizzard for giving a lot of importance to something that really deserves such amount of importance, just as almost everyone does.
We are living in a material world after all... ;)
That's a false premise, same as with Piracy it was always a false premise. Most people who pirated games wouldn't have bought them regardless, there was no loss in sale because they wouldn't ever do so. Better way to go about it, in that case, would be to seek a better price point, because that would more likely solve the problem. (By the way, I'm not justifying piracy, far from it, if you create something and wish to sell it, then you should be allowed to, and people have no right to your product, not unless you agree to part with it)
But when it comes to this specific instance of digital, infinite content, a product that once created does not require any additional resources to continue producing it, then there is no reason to restrain from giving it away for symbolic gestures of good will.
Once Blizzard is finished producing a Set, they require no additional resources, specially from the creative team and so on, to continue producing. The item is digital and infinite, every pack they sell from the moment their sales have covered the production of the Set is purely profit, they don't have any costs. (Obviously, there is still server cost, but that is not something inherent to the production of the packs, those are created already.)
Typically companies will want to give away some stuff, preferably timed to coincide with real world events, to create the image of good will, good intention, in their consumers, or even to seriously have a good impact on the society. Still, you will be restrained by the amount of resources you can spare. A lot of that is usually accomplished by covering that expense of resources by forgoing profit from previous sales before the events. (Even though in general people don't look at it that way and see it as companies taking a loss, negative balance, for good will)
But in this case, there isn't even an expense for resources, truly no reason not to do it and get credit for good will, even if they were to do it cynically, there is no reason. You just end up looking absurdly greedy.
I perfectly know how digital items work (I'm developing my own games), DiamondDM13, no reason to explain me that again. ;) But with all due respect (not trying to offend you, really) believing that others would considere things the same way as you do is a huge mistake from your part. If I learned something from people through all this years, is that a huge percentage of them don't really understand the concept of good will, they can't just grasp it, it is completely alien to them, because well, it's hard to believe in good intentions when you are just a piece of shit!!! ;)
Yeah, Blizzard looks like an absurdly greedy company for many of their customers right now, but if this company would have decided to give away free stuff for Christmas they wouldn't end up looking as people of good will (at least not for many out there), they would end up looking as f..king fools!!! Yeah, freaking f...king fools!!! Because there is no difference between being stupid and a good person for an asshole, and that my friend, that's a fact!!! Life for them is about who is the most tricky and clever, that's all; any act of kindness is seen by them as sheer stupidity and weakness. It's sad and pathetic, as if it were just a concept taken from a comic book, but believe me, it's the truth, many times reality exceeds fiction. ;)
Blizzard acted wisely this time and I'm obviously not saying all people are assholes. It's just that being seen as a greedy bastard by everyone is much better than being seen as a stupid by many. ;)
That's a false premise, same as with Piracy it was always a false premise. Most people who pirated games wouldn't have bought them regardless, there was no loss in sale because they wouldn't ever do so. Better way to go about it, in that case, would be to seek a better price point, because that would more likely solve the problem. (By the way, I'm not justifying piracy, far from it, if you create something and wish to sell it, then you should be allowed to, and people have no right to your product, not unless you agree to part with it)
But when it comes to this specific instance of digital, infinite content, a product that once created does not require any additional resources to continue producing it, then there is no reason to restrain from giving it away for symbolic gestures of good will.
Once Blizzard is finished producing a Set, they require no additional resources, specially from the creative team and so on, to continue producing. The item is digital and infinite, every pack they sell from the moment their sales have covered the production of the Set is purely profit, they don't have any costs. (Obviously, there is still server cost, but that is not something inherent to the production of the packs, those are created already.)
Typically companies will want to give away some stuff, preferably timed to coincide with real world events, to create the image of good will, good intention, in their consumers, or even to seriously have a good impact on the society. Still, you will be restrained by the amount of resources you can spare. A lot of that is usually accomplished by covering that expense of resources by forgoing profit from previous sales before the events. (Even though in general people don't look at it that way and see it as companies taking a loss, negative balance, for good will)
But in this case, there isn't even an expense for resources, truly no reason not to do it and get credit for good will, even if they were to do it cynically, there is no reason. You just end up looking absurdly greedy.
You have conveniently ignored the basis of the entire Hearthstone economy in order to make your specious point.
Giving away packs in this game is the same as giving away dust, and dust can be used to create product. Not just present product, but future product as well.
So yes, every giveaway does in fact cut a chunk out of future sales. It doesn't matter if you are a free player or a paying one; the more dust you have, the more cards you can get without paying when the next expansion drops. That means it is harder for the company to recoup production costs, leading to reduced profits. When the game doesn't generate enough profit, the shareholders question the value of their stock, and the game gets canceled.
Since profits are the ONLY reason any for-profit company exists, there is definitely a huge opportunity cost in generating goodwill through giveaways, especially in this case.
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Just kinda surprised when I logged in this morning they didn't do anything at all for Christmas. you know maybe a free pack or 2 something like that. what a bunch of cheap skates.
Pretty sure that's the main point Jesus wanted us to understand:
Free packs for Christmas from Blizzard. Yep, sure...
I opened up the Skyshiv dude in a pack today so that was xmas enough for me from them : D
We got the Winter bundle lol
I see this a lot about games, had someone complain that fifa didn't do anything for Christmas day either. My question is why on earth would they? What other company just gives you free things at Christmas? The supermarket you go to, did they give you anything? Who else would you expect a handout from because this seems to be a bit of a game mentality, where people who play games have set their own expectations of free things on Christmas day and are then disappointed when this doesn't happen.
OP calling them cheap skates while beeing a greedy fuck.
We need a IRL Thanos for this society.
If you thought that was bad, i didn't get a single christmas present in real life this year.
Yeah and once you're next in line, you will be saying "please thanos, it was a mistake".
I got Legend for Christmas, which is incredible considering that my goal was goofing on ladder.
But yeah, even a single pack would have been nice, just as a "hey it's Christmas, let's share some vibes". But it's not the end of the world.
China doesn't celebrate Christmas
big words, well said
I am power, incarnate!
Me too, but thats not a bad thing
Always expect the unexpectable!
Did somebody get something? I thought it was a legend...
I only received the unconditional love of my beloved ones this year, and that's more than enough for me!!! :D :D :D
Blizzard is not charity, neither they work for Santa Clauss. If you really wanted a Christmas present so desperately, you should have buyed it yourself. ;)
Each time Blizzard gives away free stuff, they are losing future sales, that's the point. If we weren't living in a world were money plays an extremely important role, I would gladly agree with you, DiamondDM13, but unfortunately that's not the case. We cannot blame Blizzard for giving a lot of importance to something that really deserves such amount of importance, just as almost everyone does.
We are living in a material world after all... ;)
Sorry, couldn't resist... :P
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"We got the winter bundle lol" OMEGALUL
I perfectly know how digital items work (I'm developing my own games), DiamondDM13, no reason to explain me that again. ;) But with all due respect (not trying to offend you, really) believing that others would considere things the same way as you do is a huge mistake from your part. If I learned something from people through all this years, is that a huge percentage of them don't really understand the concept of good will, they can't just grasp it, it is completely alien to them, because well, it's hard to believe in good intentions when you are just a piece of shit!!! ;)
Yeah, Blizzard looks like an absurdly greedy company for many of their customers right now, but if this company would have decided to give away free stuff for Christmas they wouldn't end up looking as people of good will (at least not for many out there), they would end up looking as f..king fools!!! Yeah, freaking f...king fools!!! Because there is no difference between being stupid and a good person for an asshole, and that my friend, that's a fact!!! Life for them is about who is the most tricky and clever, that's all; any act of kindness is seen by them as sheer stupidity and weakness. It's sad and pathetic, as if it were just a concept taken from a comic book, but believe me, it's the truth, many times reality exceeds fiction. ;)
Blizzard acted wisely this time and I'm obviously not saying all people are assholes. It's just that being seen as a greedy bastard by everyone is much better than being seen as a stupid by many. ;)
You have conveniently ignored the basis of the entire Hearthstone economy in order to make your specious point.
Giving away packs in this game is the same as giving away dust, and dust can be used to create product. Not just present product, but future product as well.
So yes, every giveaway does in fact cut a chunk out of future sales. It doesn't matter if you are a free player or a paying one; the more dust you have, the more cards you can get without paying when the next expansion drops. That means it is harder for the company to recoup production costs, leading to reduced profits. When the game doesn't generate enough profit, the shareholders question the value of their stock, and the game gets canceled.
Since profits are the ONLY reason any for-profit company exists, there is definitely a huge opportunity cost in generating goodwill through giveaways, especially in this case.
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland