Hello guys, i wanna ask. I had one month pause bcuse i was tired of DH. Is this game even playable, when DH has still best winrate even after third nerf?
In my opinion you could play ladder again, it is less irritating, especially after 3rd nerf. DH is still powerfull and you might want to come back. Playing ladder requires strong nerves tho. I would wait for the next expansion
I feel you man, I'm on a break too, I log only every third day and last month I only played until I reached d5. But I don't like at all the current state of the game. DH is less powerful for sure, but the meta is very stale and boring. Meantime, I discovered Runeterra and I fell in love with it, you should definitely give it a try, specially considering is absolutely F2P
For me the meta seems very playable and divers. In April I faced 36% DH, in May 28% and in June 'just' 22%. (585 games recorded). Just one out of five games is pretty okay.
DH is as strong or stronger than it was before the 3rd nerf. The nerf made no difference since the priestess was already getting cut in legend ranks for a more aggro list. The aggro list wasn't touched at all. DH is still busted and unbeatable. The only way to beat it is enrage/egg warrior. Every other deck does at best 50/50. The trouble with stats is that they just lump all DH as one when some people play horrible DH decks/control decks/highlander DH. If you look at just the best aggro DH lists in legend they are absolutely oppressive. You don't stand much of a chance. Spell druid is also completely busted too. Spell druid is a significant chunk of the legend meta and is also unbelievably oppressive. You can't really make a fun deck right now and expect to win because of DH and spell druid. The only reason spell druid isn't tier S is because DH beats it but spell druid's hard counter is a very fast aggro deck like murloc paladin and because those sort of decks have an impossible matchup vs DH, they arn't played. DH therefore both counters spell druid but removes any other potential counter from play.
Don’t be fooled by stat sites like HSreplay or VS. They are nothing but an indicator, but very far from the whole truth.
In previous Grandmasters season, DH had an overall win rate of just about 50%, and this is after warrior was banned in 90% of the frames, so it was not them bringing the DH winrate down.
And whoever said you can’t play other than meta decks is just too afraid to try. In the Swiss rounds of Masters Tour Jönköping, the best performing deck with a whopping 73% winrate was a shaman. The sample size was obviously small since it was a tournament and only a few people brought the deck, but food for thought, you can do well with other decks if you know what you’re doing.
Sorry, it's more meaningful to look at HSreplay data, which is recorded from a big player base with different levels of skills, than it is to look at Grandmasters where you find the top 1% of HS population.
DH is indeed strong in its current form and has been crushing the meta since day 0, although with some nerfs along the way.
Yes you can do well with other decks (last season I hit legend with HL mage, this season with Spell Druid), but DH is just better.
Sorry, it's more meaningful to look at HSreplay data, which is recorded from a big player base with different levels of skills, than it is to look at Grandmasters where you find the top 1% of HS population.
DH is indeed strong in its current form and has been crushing the meta since day 0, although with some nerfs along the way.
Yes you can do well with other decks (last season I hit legend with HL mage, this season with Spell Druid), but DH is just better.
You can only rely on HSReplay if you have a subscription. Otherwise the data is only sub-Gold levels. Especially after 10 days into a month, free HSReplay data is only showing new players, and players who don't play much. In that sector, DH will always dominate, as it's the easiest FTP/Budget decks. DH has become so rhythmic, it's probably the easiest class to counter... I hardly ever play net decks, and I'm probably 75% against DH, since even if you draw decently, you know exactly what cards are coming and can play around.
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Hello guys, i wanna ask. I had one month pause bcuse i was tired of DH.
Is this game even playable, when DH has still best winrate even after third nerf?
you can get a longer pause, everything will remain the same or even worse
In my opinion you could play ladder again, it is less irritating, especially after 3rd nerf. DH is still powerfull and you might want to come back. Playing ladder requires strong nerves tho. I would wait for the next expansion
I feel you man, I'm on a break too, I log only every third day and last month I only played until I reached d5. But I don't like at all the current state of the game. DH is less powerful for sure, but the meta is very stale and boring. Meantime, I discovered Runeterra and I fell in love with it, you should definitely give it a try, specially considering is absolutely F2P
Things are better, but DH is not the worst opponent now.
It's either the clownshow that is Mage, or the frustrating hell that is Bomb Warrior.
DH is probably still the strongest all-round class but it doesn't feel quite as overpowering as it used to.
The main problem is, that because it's such a strong aggro/tempo deck, it severely limits the types of decks that are viable in the meta.
For me the meta seems very playable and divers.
In April I faced 36% DH, in May 28% and in June 'just' 22%. (585 games recorded).
Just one out of five games is pretty okay.
DH is as strong or stronger than it was before the 3rd nerf. The nerf made no difference since the priestess was already getting cut in legend ranks for a more aggro list. The aggro list wasn't touched at all. DH is still busted and unbeatable. The only way to beat it is enrage/egg warrior. Every other deck does at best 50/50. The trouble with stats is that they just lump all DH as one when some people play horrible DH decks/control decks/highlander DH. If you look at just the best aggro DH lists in legend they are absolutely oppressive. You don't stand much of a chance. Spell druid is also completely busted too. Spell druid is a significant chunk of the legend meta and is also unbelievably oppressive. You can't really make a fun deck right now and expect to win because of DH and spell druid. The only reason spell druid isn't tier S is because DH beats it but spell druid's hard counter is a very fast aggro deck like murloc paladin and because those sort of decks have an impossible matchup vs DH, they arn't played. DH therefore both counters spell druid but removes any other potential counter from play.
Play Warrior enrage and crush all these DH
Don’t be fooled by stat sites like HSreplay or VS. They are nothing but an indicator, but very far from the whole truth.
In previous Grandmasters season, DH had an overall win rate of just about 50%, and this is after warrior was banned in 90% of the frames, so it was not them bringing the DH winrate down.
And whoever said you can’t play other than meta decks is just too afraid to try. In the Swiss rounds of Masters Tour Jönköping, the best performing deck with a whopping 73% winrate was a shaman. The sample size was obviously small since it was a tournament and only a few people brought the deck, but food for thought, you can do well with other decks if you know what you’re doing.
Sorry, it's more meaningful to look at HSreplay data, which is recorded from a big player base with different levels of skills, than it is to look at Grandmasters where you find the top 1% of HS population.
DH is indeed strong in its current form and has been crushing the meta since day 0, although with some nerfs along the way.
Yes you can do well with other decks (last season I hit legend with HL mage, this season with Spell Druid), but DH is just better.
You can only rely on HSReplay if you have a subscription. Otherwise the data is only sub-Gold levels. Especially after 10 days into a month, free HSReplay data is only showing new players, and players who don't play much. In that sector, DH will always dominate, as it's the easiest FTP/Budget decks. DH has become so rhythmic, it's probably the easiest class to counter... I hardly ever play net decks, and I'm probably 75% against DH, since even if you draw decently, you know exactly what cards are coming and can play around.