[Rank 45 Legend] SHAMAN EATER
- Last updated Nov 17, 2016 (Yogg Nerf)
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Wild
- 12 Minions
- 16 Spells
- 2 Weapons
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Secrets Hunter
- Crafting Cost: 4480
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 11/12/2016 (Yogg Nerf)
- AlwaysFace
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Hello! This is my deck that I used to climb to rank 45 Legend this season with a 68% win-rate from Rank 5 to Legend. The deck is a hybrid build between a Mid-range Secret Hunter and a Face Secret Hunter. I have found is very effective against the meta as it does well against Shamans (65% win-rate) because of the aggression, but also well against slower decks like Control Warrior (100% win-rate) and Malygos Druid (~80% win-rate) because of the inclusion of Barnes and Savannah Highmane.
Astounding! Over 100k views - thank you so much everyone for the support. I really hope you enjoy climbing the ladder with this deck!
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I have written a guide to explain some of the match-ups. If there is anything I can do to improve my guide, I would love the feedback.
- I have added card explainations and replacements below.
- Video playthrough added as well.
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***Guide***
In general, you will want to fight for the board early and gain a huge tempo swing on turn 3 or 2 with Cloaked Huntress and a Secretkeeper on board. Make good trades early on, then in the mid-game, switch to full on face mode and burst them down with Quick Shot, Kill Command, Unleash + Leeroy, etc. Make sure to squeeze in your hero power in later turns until you are ready to finish them off.
***Shaman***
This is actually a pretty good match-up. Mulligan for Secretkeeper, Kindly Grandmother, Freezing Trap, and Cloaked Huntress. If you have a good hand, sometimes a Quick Shot is a good keep to kill their Tunnel Trogg if you go first.
Going first, ideally you will play a Secretkeeper, followed by a freezing trap to remove their turn one Totem Golem or Tunnel Trogg. Freezing trap is still a very strong play against a Totem Golem even without a Secretkeeper on board. Going second, do not play a Secretkeeper against their turn 1 Tunnel Trogg because it will likely be killed when he drops his Totem Golem.
In the mid-game, look to play Secretkeeper, but avoid playing Cat Trick until the opponent has used the coin if you went first, as he will probably coin, Bloodmage, Maelstrom or coin lightning storm later. After the Shaman has used a board clear or two you are good to go. Going second, you can play coin, Huntress, Cat Trick because the opponent will probably use a spell before he can clear your board (Turn 4 earliest with lightning bolt then lightning storm). Around turn 5 or 6 you need to start going face because you WILL lose the board to board clear into 0 mana 5/5. Avoid playing your Highmane unless the opponent has already used a hex, which he likely will not have done.
You can generally ignore the healing totem and 1/1 totem (unless you suspect it is a totem shaman or a flametongue would really hurt your board), but ALWAYS kill the spell damage totem unless you have lethal next turn. You should still make good trades if the opportunity presents itself in the mid-game, but most attacks should go face. Don't be greedy in your trades and try to keep as many 4+ health minions as you can to avoid Lightning Storm. Leeroy + Unleash is a good finish as the opponent will probably have a lot of totems. Don't forget to play around a potential Bloodlust - killing a 1 heath minion could be the difference between victory and defeat.
***Druid***
Malygos Druid is a really good match-up for us. Keep Secretkeeper, Cat Trick, Kindly Grandmother, Cloaked Huntress, and with a good hand Freezing Trap and Animal Companion. Push for face as fast as possible in this match-up - if it goes beyond turn 10 he will overwhelm you with 0 mana 8/8s and 16 life gain (Feral Rage).
Cat trick is and excellent turn 2 play as the opponent will probably Wild Growth, giving you a 2 mana 4/2. He will try to remove your minions with Living Roots, Wrath, Swipe, etc., so just try to kill him as fast as possible. Always kill Fandral, Azure Drake and Emperor, and try to play around Swipe. He might get insanely lucky with his innervates and there is nothing you can do about that.
***Warrior***
Control is a very good Match-up for us, but Pirate not so much. Mulligan for Secretkeeper, Kindly Grandmother, Cat Trick, Cloaked Huntress, Animal Companion, and if you suspect control warrior, Savannah Highmane, as it is very hard for a warrior to remove is entirely on turn 6. Control is another race to the face match-up. Kill them before they can get their insane 4 armor per turn with Justicar. Don't play too many minions at once, but if it is turn 5 and you have a couple deathrattle minions that will leave stuff behind, then you can continue to flood the board. avoid popping these deathrattles to guard against brawl.
Against Pirate Warrior, just hope that they don't Upgrade their Arcanite. Race them for face damage, and make trades that will limit their damage output while not hurting yours too much. Avoid taking too much damage with your Eaglehorn Bow.
Against Dragon Warrior, just fight for tempo. Do your best not to fall behind on the board and get a good cloaked huntress to swing the game in your favor.
***Mage***
Tempo mage is a tough match-up, as they can sit there and avoid your Explosive Trap to burst you down with spells/Flamewaker. Keep Secretkeeper, Kindly Grandmother, Cloaked Huntress, Eaglehorn Bow, and Quick Shot. Fight for the board in the early-game, and ALWAYS remove Sorcerers Apprentice, Flamewaker, and the 3/2 spell damage one. An explosive trap can be good to remove the 3/2s if they decide to attack, but a lot of the time they wont, so you'll have to be ready to remove them yourself. Either win the board and kill them quickly, or kill their threats and out-value them as they run out of cards (which they tend to do).
Against Freeze Mage, just go face and save your spells til lethal. Don't run your resources too low, because if you run out of cards after you pop their ice block and you have no board, Alextraza can heal them and put an 8/8 on the board. Pretty easy match though, just be aggressive.
***Hunter***
Race to the face. Keep Secretkeeper, Kindly, Huntress, and Freezing, Cat, and Bow if you have a good hand. They will probably be a secret hunter, so play around their traps, checking one by one. If you suspect Cat Trick, avoid casting spells until you know you can handle a 4/2 on the board. Your goal is just to kill them faster than they kill you, so in the mid-game, most everything must go face.
***Warlock***
Zoo is a really bad match-up, Renolock is good. Always keep explosive, and the usual SK, KG, and CH, but also Unleash if you have a good hand but do not have explosive. Try not to let Zoo take the board - they will overwhelm you quickly with Councilmen, Doomguards, and Defender of Arguses.
Try your best to fight for the board and make good trades. Watch out for soulfire and Doomguard. Always kill Malchezaars Imp and Darkshire Councilman. You can afford to use your freezing trap liberally because finding a good target will often be very difficult with their plethora of 1/1s. Use explosive trap to clear as much as possible, but don't be too greedy - 3 minions is plenty usually. Also watch out for Defender of Argus, who can raise two minion's health above 2 to play around Explosive Trap, so try to set threats to 1 health. Go face after turn 5ish because you cannot hope to control the board most of the time.
Against Renolock, burst them down and hope they don't have Reno. Sometimes you can get a turn 5 lethal before they can even play reno.
***Rogue***
Free win. Keep the usual SK, KG, CH, and also Quick Shot, Eaglehorn Bow, Cat Trick and Freezing Trap. Kill them quickly, use a freezing trap on Tomb Pillager or Azure Drake, kill SI7 with Quick or Bow. Avoid playing Highmane if you can because Sap is such a strong tool against it. Rogues are beginning to cut Sap, but better safe than sorry for now. Watch out for turn 2 8/8 Edwin (which I faced 3 times on my climb) and hope for a freezing trap.
***Paladin***
Mostly Anyfin Pallys. Normal mulligan SK, KG, CH, Cat Trick, Animal Companion. Don't overextend because they will clear your board with Equality + Pyromancer, but try to kill them quickly. They have a lot of healing with Forbidden Healing and Ivory Knight, which can make the match tricky. Just try to kill them before they can heal.
***Priest***
LUL Priest. Probably Resurrect or Dragon. Against Resurrect, get Freezing Trap to shut down Injured Blademaster + Resurrect, and kill Priest of the Feast ASAP, otherwise they will heal 6+ virtually every turn. Another one just to kill fast.
I do not have any personal experience against Dragon Priest, but I have been informed that it is a bad matchup. I would mulligan for the usual cards, as well as Freezing Trap. They will try to play on curve, so try to get the biggest tempo swing you can out of your Cloaked Huntress and never look back.
***Card Explanations***
- Why no Snipe?
Snipe is a card that is too easy to play around for most classes. Shamans and Rogues will drop Thalnos to gain card advantage, while Druid will drop 0 mana 8/8s and Ragnaros, also gaining them card advantage. It doesn't do direct damage so it is a worthless late game draw.
- Is Tracking really that good?
Yes. Yes it is. The ability to basically "discover" the perfect card in your deck for your situation and get rid of the cards you no longer need for such a marginal mana cost late in the game is irreplaceable. So many games have been won due to a Tracking topdeck on turn 8+.
- Is Leeroy Necessary?
At the end of the game, doing damage to face is all that matters, and Leeroy does a really good job of this, especially when paired with Unleash the Hounds. If you want the deck to be optimized, craft Leeroy.
- Why no Ragnaros?
Ragnaros is ultimately too slow for this deck, as most games will be over by about turn 8 anyway, and dealing 8 damage to a random enemy for 8 mana is worse than dealing 13 damage to the opponents face with 2x Kill Command and Quick Shot on turn 8.
- Why keep Highmane then?
Highmane is dropped at a point where you will need to be putting as much damage on board to set up for lethal as possible. Even if the enemy kills it on turn 6, you will probably sill have 2 2/2s left over to deal 4 face damage and the enemy just spent his turn dealing with the Highmane instead of healing or clearing the rest of your board. If he doesn't remove it, that's just 6 more damage to his face the next turn. This is included to beat slower decks like Warrior and Druid. You need to play faster cards against Shaman usually unless you have the board or you have no other options.
***Card Replacements***
- Quick Shot
Wolfrider is the best replacement card for Quick Shot available to Hunters. Keep in mid that this is very sub-optimal, and will reduce the value of Barnes.
- Leeroy Jenkins
You can sub in a Wolfrider or an Argent Commander for Leeroy if you do not have him. Do NOT under any circumstances use Reckless Rocketeer. The card has horrible stats for its cost - only 5 attack for 6 mana. Wolfrider at least gets a 1:1 Damage/Mana ratio, and Argent Commander gets a divine shield that increases survivability greatly. Argent Commander is also better with Barnes.
- There are no replacement for Karazhan cards, as the whole deck revolves around Cloaked Huntress.
***Deck Showcase***
I usually not comment but This deck is INSANE right now.Thank you AlwaysFace.
A day ago,i was at rank 8,i use 3 times deck 1 time i lost to zoo warlock.Today, i was at rank 7.Now i am at rank 5 , (5 games no lost ).
I'm happy you're liking the deck!
No problem man. Beating a Shaman takes a very fine balance between board control and face damage, so don't get discouraged if you lose to them at first. Practice should help with that.
Wow this deck made my day :)
9w 1L (renolock)
That's great to hear, glad you're doing well with it!
But now.. I always seem to lose with decks with rags.
and some they didn't even play from their hand. all of my opponent who plays barnes. got a freaking rag.
And reno locks who always go second with a T5 reno... of course with rag :(
I have the same problem. played 7 games today, 5 with shamans and lost 4 of them. they have spirit and things from below which means around 6 taunts. and clear board + spell damage. i don't think that we can win with this deck, maybe replacing secret keeper with multi-shot. it's good against spirit.
give it a try to pass those shamans. but any way the match is still bad. and replacing those cards will make u a little weaker against other classes.
i'm currently using power shot instead of secret keeper. it's really good against tempo mage. u have lost 9 games to them which is a lot. replace it and u will have more wins against them and it also improves overall winrate.
Thanks a lot tho this man! I was stuck at rank 12 cuz every time I encounter mid-shaman I lose, btw I'm using Secret Hunter got me up to rank 5 last 2 seasons but right now I'm having trouble passing through shaman-decks. I gave this deck a try and I went up to rank 4 just today, the only problem with this deck is vs warlock(reno/aggro) and Hunter(facerace) and any class should be fine and you got a free win vs Druid and Rogue. I just had few alterations along the way. I took out 2 quick shots put 2 argent squire(choose this for early board control if you got unlucky with SK), -1tracking(I only use this on the frist turn when I get really unlucky other than that I only use it to go for lethal), -1higmane(I rarely get to the point where I have to drop highmane), +2snipes(rly good vs shaman(thing from below, azure and 3/4totem), -leroy, +argent commander(I value the divine shield its rlly insane vs shamans plus you can combo it better with barnes 1/1 chrge with devine shield and you can drop it anytime even if you are not going for lethal) but a 5 drop 6 damage is insane too but I prefer divine shield minions. I alsot took out 2 kindly grandmother It feels slow for me and added +1stranglethorn tiger(again good with barnes stealth + kill command next turn) so that's how I got to rank 4 and looking forward to my first legend OVER ALL THANKS A LOT MAN! p.s. just started playing HS 3 months ago and I'm loving the game also only played hunter ever since, so I'm really happy for this deck. sorry for bad english not my native. CHEERS!
Hey
i got thise its deck and its very fun and powerfull - tanx
a question
Playing against shaman
How do you deal with the Flamewreathed faceless on round 4 and feral spirit on Round 6?
You clean it?
Or ignore flamewreathed faceless and get the face?
Other than freezing Trap the deck doesn't have anything particularly strong against flamewreathed faceless, partially due to the fact that it's not really in the meta, so you shouldn't have to deal without it very much. If you have no answer you can probably ignore it if you have enough minions on the board because the shaman will have a weak turn 5 and you might be able to burst him fast enough after that.
tanx alot man :*
I gave this deck a try and certainly made a mockery of this list. Watch me fumble my way through a few games:
- you need to berst them early and not save the card that much (im winning befor turn 9, sometimes on turn 5.)
- and stop clearing the board. this is the point - to go face..
- and you shouldnt spend your weapon when you have many secret in your hand... - save it to get more durability and then - face - not clear :p
(i m not saw all the video. so maby im wrong :p )
Thanks for the support man, glad you like the deck!
First there is no doubt the deck is awesome, i got to rank 13 (from 18) yesterday with 78% winrate.
i played around 50 games today. but couldn't pass rank 13. here is my stat:
28 win 21 lose: 56% winrate (today)
win/lose
druid 1-4
hunter 1-1
mage 6-5
paladin 1-3
priest 3-0
rough 5-1
shamans 5-3
warloc 3-2
warrior 3-2
so here is my problems.
1st:
with druid the opponent usually bring 4/6 taunt or 5/10 taunt which is extremely hard to deal or will need a lot of resources. i lost 4 games against them.
2nd:
another problem is tempo mage those 3/2 cards + 0/2 taunts and flamewalker. the opponent doesn't attack so deal 2 damage secret never works.
3rd:
the last problem is Ragnaros the firelord and the light lord.
i don't have leeroy or argent commander so used reckless rocketers. i'm going to craft argent.
the cards that i currently see useless is mostly secretkeeper, the opponent always remove it in first round with spells. barnes is just good if i get savannah.
cards that i see can be usefull:
1st:
Powershot: can clearboard of tempo mage. kill 3 3/2 cards with only 3 mana. it's also good against shamans and zoo warlock. so it might solve the first problem.
2nd:
Hunters mark: kill those taunts or ragnaros the fire/light lord. which can solve problem 3.
have u tried them? (specially Powershot - it seems to be usefull.)
You can't be greedy with your explosive trap - try to get only 1 or 2 minions with it against tempo mage. If you are facing a lot of taunts hunters mark is a good tech, and can replace argent horserider or unleash the hounds (especially if you don't have leeroy). TBH I dont even have powershot to use lol so no I have not tried it, but you can give it a shot.
That's still a 60% winrate :)
60% win rate is very good...
JUST Now lvl 5 again preetty happy about it. Moreover I'm on winstreak from 9 Looking forward with positive mind. Just made minor change: tracking > hunter mark in ordee to counter warrior taint archetype! Stil solid. Thank u m8 for dis deck
Sweet! Keep at it.