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They never learn… This is going to be broken in Alignment Druid, no other deck can abuse this.

The most scary thing about this is School Teacher I think.

Same as corrupted, infused cards are a brand new card.

And this time, we're getting an infusion for breakfast.

Before anything, this is a serious thread, not for saltiness, and our opinions may differ. If that's the case, discuss it like an adult.

IMO, this game has fallen into a trap of face decks that are hard to counter and tend to turn the meta into a rock-paper-scissors, where if you are deck A and face deck B, you lose. Direct damage has little to no counter other than extreme healing/armoring or this. Extreme healing and endless armor are quite toxic and boring to the game. Increasing health is the only possible way (apart from deleting cards from existence, which'll never happen), plus, creating decks where that 40 cards restriction is in fact a good thing (Lady Prestor I'm looking at you lol) could be a good thing for creativity.

What do I think will happen in the end with 40 health? Agro decks will change to board/token decks, like old Zoos. And more midrange deck will start flourishing. Those agro decks can be countered in a more healthy way (board clears, building your own board, taunts), and are  A LOT more punishing. There is very little punish to face and direct damage, as I said before. I'm tired of wanting to try some deck and losing to some random folk who doesn't even knows how to play his deck (due to his mistakes), but wins anyways. Game is no fun when the opponent ignores you and throws you spells and hits you in the face. Sure, those players may think "this is fun". But eventually they'll get tired and leave the game. And us, the ones who have been here since a long time, are the only ones punished.

Right now we're on the hype train, everything is 40 cards right now (fuck, even saw a quest pirate warrior which has 0 sense lol), but eventually this'll get fixed. Either now, or either with the next expansion and future ones.

That's what I think. What do you guys think? I really hope this is a response for fixing dumb face decks and in the near future they stop printing support for that, so we don't need 40 decks forever in Standard. Agro decks were a lot more fun when you had to be cautious about board clears and maximizing the value of everything so that every little boy counts, or use fancy combos. That's fun and interactive. Playing a weapon and dealing 4890352 damage in turn 4? Nope, that's not. At least for me.

Quote from Bengalaas >>

Tl;dw: the biggest problem with the game isn't it's p2w nature, it's that it uses predatory monetisation techniques designed specifically to prey upon those with addictive personalities, or kids with their mom's credit card etc.

I mean dude, from what I read, that $110000 number was some low-level math from somebody that didn't even played the game and didn't have the information...

And you can do the same analysis with almost any MMORPG game that has paid currencies or currencies that can be converted to real money in some way (like EVE Online). I mean, the last one is considered one of the best MMORPGS of the history. And you can't play it if you don't spend 12hs per day. Ships can cost up to 30k...

I think this can be reduced to 4 things:

1. Fake news, due to the misinformation and TERRIBLE communication from part of Blizzard.
2. Blizzard hate wave on which we are since the past years, and kept growing more and more due to the last issues.
3. HORRIBLE balance and testing. This is common rule for all Blizz games. If you never noticed this, you never played a Blizz game lol. Not saying this is good, but it's not as terrible as targeting on addictive persons... This game has a drop system based on your level. I think the rates are just broken and you're getting equipment that is behind your actual level. 
4. Indeed an excess of monetization, which sums to all of the previous things.

Quote from Shipmen >>

I am level 60 + 10. I finished the campaign and can confirm that it can be completed without in-game purchases. The longevity is truly impressive.  I am astonished about the quantity of contents of this game. There are a lot of things. Now that I understand it better, I can tell you this. 

Yes. There is an issue with the legendary gems that are like now only purchasable (you will find very few of them due to missions). It is anyway true that this game is truly massive. At level 60 you theoretically end the game, but there are after hell 1, hell 2 hell 3 and hell 4 (hells are the same maps and raids with stronger enemies and stronger drops). Max level is 60 + 150 (at least, if not more). 

So, is it pay-to-win? Yes, and I don't know. If you pay, you can accelerate for sure. The main issue is that this game is so massive that nobody know, like now, what it is in hell 2/3 and 4. For example. Before hell, it was nearly impossible to find normal gems (and now we can find them in inside the raids in hell 1). So I don't know if in hell 2/3 or 4 we will be able to find the legendaries gems. 

There are articles, like this one: https://gamerant.com/diablo-immortal-pay-to-win-legendary-gems/

My opinion is that it is a very stupid position. Because the reality is another, nobody knows what it is inside the levels up to hell 1. So we don't know, and for sure this estimate is dumb.

 This is exactly what I was discussing with some friends! I think there is a giant wave of hate based only on missinformation. That's also to blame to Blizz IMO. People is saying that the endgame of the game has a big pay-wall... Without even knowing what is the endgame!

I mean, we don't even unlocked faction and clan wars, which based on the vague information we have right now will give us gems, equipments and materials but we don't know how much, neither the level of the equipment we're going to get. Is it random? We don't know.

People is saying that the endgame is unplayable on a game that only has FIVE DAYS, without knowing its actual features, and, worst of all, in an unfinished version of it! Blizz should focus on clarifying what the actual endgame is. Blizz communities generally are very toxic, and their default status is indignation and hate. If somebody don't think it's like this, then that somebody is probably part of the toxic part of the community lol.

I think we need to wait. For now, the gaming experience for me is awesome. I'm at lvl 49, only payed the premium battle pass because I liked the cosmetics.

I mean... Levik was the one that commited stupid mistakes... That priest game dude, platinum level... Who throws everything in hand against a Rogue on turn 8? IMO Levik was blessed by luck. Not saying he's a bad player, he's also a beast. But between the two, Gaby played better, but sometimes it just isn't about playing good.

So... For you a 0/1 with taunt is the same than a 4/1 with Spell Damage +2...

Change Annoy-o-Tron for Sir Finley, Sea Guide. Thank me later when you get almost always your quest :P

Annoy-o-Tron is a filler card, can be removed easily. The rest of the list seems solid.

That would be fine. Rarity works.

1 mana execute!?

damn son, it will see alot of play!! good card for that cost

Actually you can but it's janky:

Play the first one.

Play the second one, first one switch to spells.

Play a third naga, second one switch to spells. They are now in sync.

I have adapted Amalgam of the Deep to be more accurate in play after this reveal:

Mana refresh effects are always considerably worse than the ability to go above the limit. This has a pretty steep deck building restriction but if you already have a decent, low-curve Naga + spells deck then this automatically goes in. 

That is a good cheat card! You have to build a deck specifically around nagas and spells to get value and switch while playing them. Good one that needs some thinking to pull off.

Theoretically speaking, if you ONLY cast spells every turn:

1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 = 15 this would cost (5) mana on turn 5, this very bed kard.

1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 = 21 this would cost (0) mana on turn 6, this very ok.

A cool design.  To clear any confusion, this won't get both ticks of progress on Hunter's quest, since the Quest says "Deal damage with 2 spells", and this would be one spell dealing damage twice.  Seems decent, Arcane Shot with upside is good.  We've seen two Naga in Hunter that are both extremely worth playing, but one is a late game finisher and the other is probably too expensive and slow for Quest Hunter despite how powerful its effect is for the deck.

I'm very excited about that Legendary Naga, but more interested in Hunter going an interesting direction with its Colossal.  Praying for a Hydra, Shark, or Octopus.

The horn is the worst option by far. Your basically using 9 mana for a random collosal. That's horrible.

This expansions sucks.. not able to play control is huge...