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"Forget College, just play Hearthstone !"
Ben Brode 2018
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Angry Chicken was always in the 1st choice. Enrage in itself isn't enough like battlecry or deathrattle, it needs supplementary text.
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Hello everyone !
As the Year of the Mammoth comes close to an end, it is time to commemorate it by theorycrafting what I'd call a Year of the Mammoth deck for each class. The idea is simple : You have to imagine a deck using the flavor of each expansion of 2017 : The Quest (JtUG), the Death Knight (KotFT) and the Legendary Weapon (KnC). It doesn't have to be competitive or even decent, just trying to imagine a deck using all those 3 cards's potential.
Here's how I'd imagine them :
Druid : Quest Druid already use the Death Knight, the weapon could be used as a tech choice, with the idea of setting up some wacky OTK with 20 manas and free giant minions.
Hunter : The Quest and the Weapon are antithetical, so it'd be really hard to make our idea work. Maybe a Quest Hunter using Hemet with cheap minions and big spells. Complete the quest, play Hemet, play your weapon and TMS, then play Carnassa. Really hard to make it real, but hey, it stimulates imagination
Mage : The Weapon is hard to make it work with the other cards, as it promotes fast gameplan while the quest and the Dk are slow. But ! You can make an Elemental Quest Mage with Medivh and Aluneth. The idea : Play the weapon on 6, and Medivh on 8, meanwhile you draw 6 cards which would help you complete the quest or seek the DK. Doesn't seem very consistent tho.
Paladin : A Control Oriented quest Paladin with the weapon as a tech choice could in theory be made. Would it work ? I don't think so, but we're here for the memes !
Priest : You'd have to split you deck in half with cheap spells on one hand and deathrattle minions on the other, with the DK tossed in to close a game. Gilded Gargoyle and Twilight's call are mandatory.
Rogue : Tricky one. I can see a control oriented Quest Rogue using the Dk, with Kingsbane and some buffs used to control the board, but it is hard to visualize. Any idea ?
Shaman : Murloc Shaman can in theory use the Dk for a final push, and the Weapon tossed in for the lulz, since Runespear doesn't need anything to work (It doesn't work at all, but who cares here ;))
Warlock : Idea : A modified Cubelock with the quest and Cataclysm. Your gameplan will be similar to Cubelock, except on turn 11 (Or later, use the Dk before !), you play the quest, then Cataclysm, then the Portal. Meme up to 11 !
Warrior : Hardest one to make it work. The Quest is antithetical to the Dk (Hero power) and the weapon (Recruit does not advance the quest, and with a necessary number of Taunts for the quest it will reduce the possibility). Maybe use cheap taunts and Big minions ? First you complete the quest. Then use Hemet to clear the deck. Then use the Dk to clear the board. Then the Weapon to generate big threats(If you happen to draw them, DMH may help). Then Sulfuras to close the game with the HP.Close to impossible, but if someone make it work even once, it would be worth it ;)
Any suggestion would be cool. I can't test all of those ideas, but I'd like to hear your ideas !
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Marsaro's law :
Any attempt to find a general explanation of the top tier decks mechanisms will fall flat on its face.
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So, I have enough dust for a legendary prior to the Witchwood which I pre-ordered, so I want to craft one last card between those :
-Spiritsinger Umbra The only card I miss for Cubelock along with Tal'daram, and the most useful one I think if more good deathrattle are printed in the future.
-Elise the Trailblazer : She appears in many control lists, and she would be fine in my decks.
-Zola the Gorgon : It seems she has the potential to copy strong minions.
-Sonya Shadowdancer : If Quest Rogue becomes relevant again with the Echo mechanism, she would be insane in it right ?
Val'anyr : Is it good enough for Aggro Paladin decks, or can you completely skip it ?
Kalimos, Primal Lord : Elemental Shaman seems fun to me even though it isn't super strong, but I also miss Grumble, so is it worth it ?
Thanks in advance for your answers !
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I think Shadowreaper Anduin should be demoted to Tier 2, Razakus is no longer a thing, and the most popular Priest decks (Inner Fire, Spiteful) don't run him. Still very good for Control and Big Priest, but not as necessary as before.
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Maiev had no link to Un'Goro. Why should the Druid Hero have a link with witchwood ? Not that I particularly like her (I would have preferred Hamuul), but she's fine.
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The current text of Charge gives a minion charge and can't attack hero this turn. That's basically the Rush mechanic introduced in the Witchwood. Will it be changed ? And if so will the name of the card be changed ?
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I love how those wild decks are 100% standard cards. Not even a Mal'ganis :X
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People should remember that you're facing another player bound by the same MMR system. Which means that somehow the same algorithm you claim is rigged to make your deck not face its good matchup is matching the opponent against a deck he is favoured against ? LoL
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A meta slow enough for Mind Control to be run as a two of ?
That's a nice change from the aggro snoozefest we got last year.
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Strong Neutral card draw is against class identity now ?
Loot Hoarder, Novice Engineer, Acolyte of Pain, you are next :X