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What a stupid trash... Save your clear for his big board coming up etc etc.

I play a paladin with 5 board clears + the ability to discover more, and ive just had 5 (!!!!) games in a row, where i had NO single aoe and i got beaten turn 6 by DH, pirate warr and those other garbage trash kid decks due to this ridiculous variance.

MY deck is built to outlast and crush those filthy meta decks yet the hilariousness of the fkn draw rng and OPness of those dumb minion spamming netdeck loser trash decks ist just absurb.

BTW, i play this game since Launch, and i feel this Meta is alot worse than everything i've seen before.

 

 

 This is one of the cringiest things I have read in sometime. God this is just all over the place. 

Not having a single aoe by turn 5-6 is not DH or pirate warriors fault, it’s either your decks, or bad lucks. It’s a card game, bad luck happens. Don’t play card games if you don’t want this type of variance. It’s literally inherent to them by nature. 

“MY deck is built to outlast and crush those filthy meta decks yet the hilariousness of the fkn draw rng and OPness of those dumb minion spamming netdeck loser trash decks ist just absurb.”

This “sentence” leads me to believe you’re relatively young, so I guess this makes more sense. This is just cringe rage about everything in the game that’s basically not what you’re doing. If you’ve played this game a lot, then you too have gotten extremely lucky/done op things, and made others mad about it. Again, card game. Don’t play if you don’t like variance. 

To your last point, you either haven’t played since launch, or you’re lying to fluff your point up. There is NO universe where the game is worse right now than when demon hunter launched. And I could give several more examples, but the DH one is the most glaring and the most fresh in peoples’ minds. 

DH on launch had something like 75% WR until the nerfs rolled in. It was so broken, so oppressive that to not play it was basically suicide to your winrate. There are plenty of viable decks right now, there were only like 2 when DH launched, so get this BS out of here. Like I said, I can cite more instances, backed by data, if when the game was immeasurably less balanced as well. 

You need to take a breath, and grow up. Card games have variance. Don’t play them if you don’t like that. 

 

 

 Probably made a Renathal control paladin deck and then wonders why he doesn't draw his board clear combos by turn 6 with the worse draw chance.

Barbaric doesn't do anything vs. Spell-less hand, for one, as in vs mech paladin and even beast hunter, that's partly how you counterplay, keep hand empty of spells around 5-7 to make barbaric not give tempo swing.

As for that replay, you did barbaric, discounted your rune, and then played the other barbaric with a 0cost rune in hand? Replay doesn't show discounts unfortunately.

Barbaric whiffs when you have cheap spells in your own hand, you ALREADY discounted a spell and it gets hit again, hits an enemy cheap spell twice in a row, or their hand has no spells, like vs mech paladin or mech mage quite often.

I mean, without seeing a replay... What did you have in hand the turn you played the second Barbaric?

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and i guess you wanted to swap with 10mana dragon amulet or 9mana box? what makes you sure with that 0-3mana spells in rogues hand?

 The replay. The first BS swapped with the coin. The next turn the BS didnt swap anything. He had at least the coin and the 1 mana spell "gone fishing" in his hand.

 By your own admission, you played a second Barbaric that could've hit their 10mana coin?

I'm guessing you swapped the cost of your coin with their prep or the like, I've done this once or twice, can happen before you get into the right mindset for the deck. Toss coins before Barbra, and second Barbra can hit the same spell in their hand, so is less likely to be backbreaking. Have not noticed the issues you mention.

Deck is dumb tho, insane scams everywhere.

Besides the poor value, why am I being congratulated for 'hitting' bronze then being offered bronze bundle when I'm in legend? That's dumb, no matter how you look at it.

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Someone please share it on the blizzard forums that we need a neutral card to destroy a spell in opponents hand.

We badly need one to counter phylactery warlock and quest mage

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 That fellow helps quest mage

 It doesn't if he's not ready. Either way, they would never be in that spot if they're decent at least.

'design limitations' is a good excuse unfortunately until they get their sh*t together and rewrite the client.

Rely more on shark turns post-discount instead of just vomiting every turn. Depends a lot on matchup.

Mech mage got better because the FIELD changed, even if it didn't get any new cards.

Big spell mage bumped between tier 1 and 2 since the last nerfs as people started targeting it or playing around it with Okani and such.

Just give it a bit for the meta to restabilize and mage will be pretty much in the same spot as 1-2 weeks ago.

Won't be long before combo takes over again, right?  As soon as aggro dies, I'd assume even standard would develop greedy OTKs aimed at 40hp. Phylactery in lock, probably Brann in shaman and maybe druid, as soon as they see they can get away with it. 

I'm more curious about things developing post-expansion, right now we can overlook about anything, temporary meta.

You think mage has never been worse, while it has 3 playable-ish archetypes? Apxvoid, is that you?

The sad thing about mage is that way too much of its recent history is connected to casino-ing.

Probably a bad idea, plus they wouldn't do it now, adding Renathal hints at pushing for a long-term slow meta development and design space. I'm guessing they're shooting for a Reno meta again by the end of the year, something along the lines of KnC-KotFT meta. Renathal is just to bridge things to that, a stopgap against aggression. I am expecting the Castle expansion to be loaded with strong removal and trash aggressive cards, to support that design direction.

The point in the original post is actually wrong. Renathal doesn't push aggro out and midrange in, because midrange board decks can't exist right now, control warrior is still a thing, and more annoyingly, freeze shaman package is still a thing, if you want to capitalize on boards you have to do it before turn 6, aka tribal decks.

While it's exciting for the meta that there is development, it's also so tedious to play against druid priest and warrior over and over. After a meta where scam big spell mage was actually a legitimate thing, now we have Prestor druid, game is clearly in a healthy state. Also f*ck celestial alignment and whoever came up with the idea itself, should've been slapped down from the get-go.

You have to specify how much you actually play as f2p here, 6k and 9k gold already means you guys play quite a lot.