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Hey man, I just released my first rough draft of a variation of your concept. As promised here's the link: http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/283775-tgt-steady-shot-hunter . I just tried to come at it from a bit of a different angle so we can all have a conversation about this exciting new concept that may very well be the next big hunter deck. I ended up going "all in" with the concept too but I think mine would play really different.

i guess you can't afford not going "all in" cuz' we don't have all the cards with the inspire keyword and no way to playtest the deck 

i can't really tell how good is saarad in the version i play it to have options to remove minions ( don't know if someone did the statistics but i think you have a pretty good chance to get something usefull on turn 6 or 7) for trueheart i just like the card conceptually i was really hyped about it when it came out so when i was building this was just like "this is an auto include!!" but dont worry i'll cut it if it turns out to be not impactfull enough

i put maiden of the lake  and i think this will be played in late game mostly to be able to spam your hero power and have remaining mana to play other minions or deal with the opponent board and it's also a solide body that can kill 1-1s for days and you'll need to kill 1-1s cuz' token pally is becoming a thing after the expantion i don't think i'll remove this after testing the deck ... well maybe i will acording to the meta changes but the chances a really slim 

i like cutting the Webspinners for Spider Tanks to maybe have a good 2 for 1 against a heavy aggro deck and the replacement of Glaivezooka ( i put that many early game removals cuz' i tend to be really pissed of aggro decks like a facehunt for example ) 

of course you have my upvote cuz' i wanna know about your changes specialy about cutting the Snake Trap while you have 2 Hunter's Marks 

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Wow, i'm really looking foward to play this deck tbh!

well then tell me about your experiences or even your changes when you'll play it in the comments or in private messages i'll be glad to see what you can do with it :D 

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Last about 100 cards to be revealed, be patient to create TGT deck. This will be good and looks really fun but i am sure that new cards that will be revealed also have good synergy and are going to subtitute other ones. 

that's why i said "this is an all in version" just to put the idea on paper we need to wait for new cards changes and upgrades after we have the whole picture of the expantion

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When I read Machine-Gun Lock and Load came to my mind so I had to check it out. Still a great Idea though.

i call it machin-gun hunter cuz' you'll be spamming your hero power just like a heavy muchin gun to the face :p

Quote from FeelYourPawa jump

Why not  2  Steamwheedle Snipers?

I would take out an Eaglehorn Bow since  you have 4 secrets.

i put 2 bows because of the meta flooded with aggro and Steamwheedle Snipers is kind of too slow to stop a zoolock for example cuz you need to play it on turn 4 and hero power or on turn 2 and spent all your turn 3 hero powering if the meta slows down a second Steamwheedle Snipers would be good 

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I think this list is very promising in concept, I think you were right when you said "this version is kind of an ALL IN version that includes all the stuff that revolves around hero powering i guess there will be some changes after we can playtest this deck list" though. I think hero power enhancement and emphasizing hero power use more in Midrange might be better for hunter if we just weave it in to the decks a bit more gently than this, could be inconsistent to fully invest in it (without totally changing the shell in to an Inspire deck, and who knows how good thatll be, so far a lot of those cards blow pretty hard)

EDIT: Ive decided to resolve to theorycraft my own version of this concept to show you OP. Ill comment with a link when its ready.

i'll will be keeping track of your link i am curious to see diffrent ideas (and maybe steel some if they are intresting :p )

well we might get hyped for this card just like we was for the Dark Iron Skulker and get disappointed at the end we need to wat before we can evaluate this card properly 

didn't though about KT, nice observation if you have KT on the board and this fall out of Piloted Shredder you'll be in a world of hurt assuming the oppoent being able to deal with your board after that

(i say this will fall out of a Piloted Shredder cuz' i think no one is stupid enough to play this with a KT on the board)

and yeah i know the murshroom man #2 thanks for reminding me the old days :D 

From i read, i think you misunderstand the relation between Aviana and Emperor. Aviana will change minions to (1) regardless of if Emperor is used before. But if Emperor activates after Aviana, which means you use them both the same turn and Aviana survives, they cost (0). Thats the information we  got. A lot of people misunderstand this.

Anyways, nice deck, i think most people have thought of this, so its nice to see a deck for it :)

they are doing it with deathrattle based on a WoW reference of the character wich i think is cool, however base on HS current meta this is too slow

it's an otk, it's not supposed to be easy. (lolpatrons)

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I think you'll both feel vindicated and maybe both feel disappointed. Here's how it sounds like it'll work:

If you play Thaurissan, then on a later turn you play Aviana, the minions will cost 1. https://mobile.twitter.com/CM_Whirthun/status/629044533020327936?p=v

If you play Aviana and then Thaurissan and let him tick, they will cost 0. This requires Aviana to survive until you can play then, of course, or else they will revert to their Thaurissan-discounted prices. The link for this has been posted above already.

This is correct ;)

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Quote from JonMacN jump

You're all going to be disappointed. :)

How so? We know for a fact that it does make minions cost 0..?  Do some reasearch lol.

You should listen to your own advice before lol'ing at others for not doing it^^ (But I do agree it could have been made more clear in their responses to this question)

To the OP, I think your latest version seems quite nice, if you really want the 2nd Living Roots I'd trade out the Zombie Chow for it.
Chow is so bad late game, his DR works against your combo and with this type of deck you're not trying to go with a consistent winrate, you are going for those epic moments when you actually manage to pull off the combo.
Zombie Chow might make your aggro matchups better in the long run, but he may also ruin some games for you as he doesn't further your goal with the deck, he's basically a card you hope to draw in your opening hand if you are playing against an aggro deck and if that doesn't happen then he is a detriment to the quality of your deck and something you really don't wanna draw into.

People that support hunters, support terrorism.

Well, the purpose of a Zombie Chow is to move from face damage to focus on clearing for the health received. It's an early drop in many anti-aggros (Trump uses it in his current AA Priest) and usually, if they're strictly cancer they'll ignore it and go for the face. A face hunter or any other aggro deck in this meta won't sacrifice the face damage for removal if they want to supply enough early pressure, it's their only goal. Sacrifice any pressure and it can be detrimental, so by the time they go to remove it (likely with a Kill Command then it's going to be a waste of a spell, or at trading it for a turn 3 wolfrider or Pally spells

However, the Snake Trap is on point and is one of the top hunter spells, and even if a Knife Juggler is out, you have the opportunity to stall and drop him before he knives your precious little slitherers.

I dig it! It will only ramp up the cancer of the hunter, and that means more theorycrafting for anti-aggro and control, which is fairly outdated and stagnant

Quote from JonMacN jump

You're all going to be disappointed. :)

https://twitter.com/CM_Whirthun/status/628984499435642880

I'm afraid it is you who will be disappointed.

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i guess boom helps board control and bloodmage with swipe for a good board clear agains't aggro i'll probably cut one aspirant for alex what do you think ?

Thats fair since the card is dead late since it doesn't draw a card. You might also want to add a Living Roots to the deck since it can target face and having another Moonfire type card would make the deck more consistant

Technically, the combo could also be Aviana + Innervate + Alexstrasza + Malygos + Faceless Manipulator to make a second Malygos + Moonfire + Moonfire = 22 damage at 15 HP.

Thaurissan is still not needed here, unless you're facing a Warrior.  In that case, you'll have to drop Thaurissan on Aviana to get the cost reduction and slip in a third Faceless Malygos for a total of 32 damage at 15 HP and (hopefully) less than 17 armor.