Don't let these Careful Kathies deter you. It is an evergreen single-target removal attached to a (usually) big body for 8 mana. The only time it will not be good is during heavy flow aggro metas. But besides that it is a very fun card to play that you obviously want. 100% safe craft.
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Live4vrRdieTryn posted a message on Natalie Seline worth crafting?Posted in: General Discussion -
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Live4vrRdieTryn posted a message on Natalie Seline worth crafting?Posted in: General DiscussionYes. Using it in highlander priest deck and it is a heavy hitter. It's nearly as good as Flikk. 100% craft.
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YoshiDaYoshi posted a message on Future of Paladin LibramsPosted in: PaladinNext up, "Thief Paladin"
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aposteljoe posted a message on Future of Paladin LibramsPosted in: PaladinYes, they should push it. But they won't. Next expansion they'll start to develop "Beast Paladin"
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tbranson1 posted a message on Reliquary of Souls Shaman (UPDATED)Posted in: Reliquary of Souls Shaman (UPDATED)Lady Vagina new meta
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SSFREAKAZOID posted a message on Good bye, my Queen.Posted in: RogueI just want to say thank you, Tess Greymane, for all these years together, for the most insane, ridiculous, hilarious, fantastic games I had with you. It's only because of you I kept playing HS trough out these broken metas. Insta crafted you and never gonna disenchant. You got nerfed for a few days but I still loved you and always will. I'm just glad you were released in WW expansion, so you stayed in Standard for the long time possible.
But It's hard to say good bye to you.
When opponent says : "Well Played"
You always saves me with : "You have no idea what I'm capable of" <3.
Yes, most of the time I was playing at rank 5, but I was happy and don't regret spending time with you.
I will miss you, babe. This is so sad. Alexa, play some random song.(mods please don't ban, this is very important for me).
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YoHabloEspanol posted a message on Cards you will miss after rotation??Posted in: General DiscussionWow, that escalated quickly. Screw Shudderwock btw
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JoshoPrime posted a message on No longer Ramkahen's RoarPosted in: General DiscussionThe only people complaining here are those who cry about his post be less auto-attack mode and read properly, this is just a curious detail being pointed by an user. Which btw is weird. Indeed. Blizzard should mention this in the patch notes, not because it is relevant, but because is an actual change, patch notes must have a "non mechanic changes" section or something to make actualizations more clear
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AvengersAssemble posted a message on Cards you will miss after rotation??Posted in: General DiscussionQuote from ShudderDaddy >>Shudderwock ... :(
good riddance.
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1xbenx1 posted a message on Ben's Ashes of Outland Set ReviewWelcome to another set review. We are coming up on a set rotation, but I don't think it will be as impactful as rotations in the past. The three sets leaving are some of the weakest sets in Hearthstone history. And the sets staying are among the strongest. The big shake up are the new classes, Demon Hunter and Priest. Demon Hunter is sure to have a big impact....Priest, not so much. All in all, I think this was a pretty uneven set. Some classes got nuts good cards. And those nuts cards largely fit into Galakrond decks. Some classes got a lot of trash. There are 1 or 2 new ideas that will be a lot of fun. As such, I imagine our future will be very Galakrond and Highlander heavy.Posted in: Card Discussion
Demon Hunter To no one’s surprise, I think Demon Hunter will be a competitive hero this format. While it is hard to say exactly what kind of Demon Hunter deck(s) will come out on top, the class looks like it should be able to field competitive Aggro, Midrange, and maybe even combo decks. The only Demon Hunter archetype that I am not sold on yet is a controlling version. Since there are SO many DH cards, I will try to give each “build” it’s due in this discussion. Aggro/OutcastReview time
This seems like the easiest version of DH to build. Lots of low cost cards looking to manipulate your hand to cash in on Outcast, tear through your deck, and go face. Midrange-Highlander
I think this will actually be the most successful version of the deck. It will still run a lot of the same outcast package, but it will also include some bigger endgame demon bombs (discounted by Felscreamer) and/or Highlander legendaries. Combo/Illidari
This deck is harder to piece together, but I think it could be something that plays out similar to Quest Hunter, but with Wrathscale Naga as a finisher (and again maybe Highlander cards). I could see Gadgetzan Auctioneer being considered in something like this too. Control/Big Demon
I don’t think this version of the deck is there yet. The big demons I want to reduce with Felscreamer and play are the ones that can go face to end the game, Antean and Priestess. Coilfang is also good enough to be considered here, but I’m not feeling the others. As for individual card ratings, generally, if I think a card would be played in multiple types of DH decks, it got a 3 or 4. More niche stuff got 2’s. Bad ones got 1s.
Druid Druid got some interesting cards, but none that really made me want to turn away from Quest or Treant Druid. Some cards do fit into those decks, but aren’t a substantial improvement. Msshi’fn is cute, and can fit in Quest Druid, but it’s not a massive improvement to the deck’s endgame. Maybe it’s better than Phaoris. Glowfly is another wave of tokens, but is probably worse than Wispering Woods. Satyr could be key to a new Malygos deck, but I think it’s otherwise not very interesting. Ysiel could work in that deck, but there aren’t really spells worth casting. The outlier here is Overgrowth, which I could imagine becomes core to a non-quest Ramp Druid. (Quest Druid will almost certainly prefer to stick with Nourish.) I could imagine Marsh Hydra fitting into both Ramp and Quest druid, and it could possibly a 4-star card.Blur: 1
Twin Slice: 3
Battlefiend: 3
Consume Magic: 3
Crimson Sigil Runner: 3
Mana Burn: 1
Shadowhoof Slayer: 1
Ur’zul Horror: 2
Blade Dance: 2
Chaos Strike: 2
Feast of Souls: 2
Furious Felfin: 2
Immolation Aura: 3
Netherwalker: 2
Sightless Watcher: 2
Spectral Sight: 3
Umberwing: 4
Aldrachi Warblades: 2
Altrius the Outcast: 2
Coordinated Strike: 2
Eye Beam: 4
Satyr Overseer: 3
Soul Cleave: 2
Wrathscale Naga: 2
Kayn Sunfury: 4
Raging Felscreamer: 3
Soul Split: 1
Chaos Nova: 3
Command the Illidari: 2
Glaivebound Adept: 3
Imprisoned Antaen: 3
Metamorphosis: 4
Skull of Gul’dan: 4
Warglaives of Azzinoth: 2
Warspike Brute: 2
Fel Summoner: 1
Flamereaper: 2
Priestess of Fury: 3
Coilfang Warlord: 3
Hulking Overfiend: 2
Inner Demon: 2
Nethrandamus: 1
Pit Commander: 1
HunterYsiel Windsinger: 1
Archspore Msshi’fn: 2
Marsh Hydra: 3
Glowfly Swarm: 3
Germination: 1
Fungal Fortunes: 2
Ironbark: 2
Overgrowth: 4
Imprisoned Satyr: 3
Bogbeam: 2
Hunter is obviously looking to go a Beast Buff direction, and I think that deck could work. Time will tell if that is a better midrange deck than Highlander. Sadly, I suspect it may not be better. King Krush on 7 is probably much simpler than Leoroxx and Tundra Rhino pieces. Luckily, many of these pieces can also easily see play in Highlander. And it certainly doesn’t seem better than Dragon Hunter. I would say that Quest Hunter is basically dead without Leeroy, so if you are looking for big bursty combos, Beast Buff hunter can fill that niche.
MageBeastmaster Leoroxx: 2
Zixor, Apex Predator: 2
Nagrand Slam: 3
Augmented Porcupine: 2
Scrap Shot: 3
Mok’Nathal Lion: 2
Pack Tactics: 3
Scavenger’s Ingenuity: 4
Imprisoned Felmaw: 1
Helboar: 2
All Spells Mage looks like a meme to me right now. Hunter was able to have so much success with it because of the combination of Barnes/Y’Shaarj and the grindiest Death Knight ever. All Spell Mage doesn’t have any of that working in its favor at the moment. So ultimately, while some of the All Spell Mage are individually strong, I don’t think they are enough to carry. Likewise, I don’t think the payoff is there for the secret synergy cards that Mage got. That deck, however, is probably better than All Spell Mage at least. It did, however, receive a few interesting cards that I could see being played in Highlander Mage, which may be all that Mage has going for it this format.
Paladin Paladin was going to need a lot of help, since almost all the worthwhile mechs are rotating. Luckily, I think the Librams are that. You could run a Pure Libram Paladin, but I think that deck has holes, and it’s likely you will need to fill them, at least initially, with Neutral cards. But, since I think all the Libram cards are good, Paladin will get some good ratings here. Murloc got some cards, but I have trouble imagining playing that deck without the high roll Lens possibility. Dragon Murloc was pushed, but never really worked, and I don’t think it got anything here that changes it. They are good, stand-alone cards, though. They may find their way into other decks by virtue of being singularly strong.Astromancer Solarian: 3
Evocation: 3
Apexis Blast: 1
Apexis Smuggler: 2
Deep Freeze: 2
Imprisoned Observer: 1
Font of Power: 1
Netherwind Portal: 2
Incanter’s Flow: 1
Starscryer: 2
PriestLady Liadrin: 3
Murgur Murgurgle: 2
Libram of Hope: 3
Underlight Angling Rod: 2
Aldor Truthseeker: 3
Libram of Wisdom: 3
Imprisoned Sungill: 2
Libram of Justice: 3
Hand of A’dal: 2
Aldor Attendant: 3
I think priest is going to be a hard class to predict because the class got entirely revamped. Lucky for us, Res-Galakrond Priest will still mostly be around. <crickets> Only 1, maybe 2, of the Ashes cards fit in that deck. I wouldn’t be surprised to see that Reliquary goes into this deck both as a way to add lifesteal and to extend the game by constantly adding prime to your deck.
“Zoo” priest was at its best when it was comboing people to death. But a minion focused Highlander deck seems entirely reasonable. Will it be better than other highlander decks? Probably not. Will it be a better galakrond deck than Res Priest? Probably not. But Soul Mirror is a hell of a card. Tl;dr I think if you’re playing priest, it’s Res Priest with Galakrond.
Rogue Rogue got the goods. The secret synergy stuff looks good. The stealth synergy stuff looks good. The Galakrond stuff is obviously good. It’s an embarrassment of riches. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see some combination of all of this stuff being one of the best decks in the format. The payoff for Stealth and Secret, respectively, are Greyheart and Blackjack. These two are so good that it makes you want to play the package. The packages themselves are fine, but nothing spectacular. But they are elevated by their payoff cards. If I had to bet, I think a Stealth Galakrond Rogue is where we will see things headed. Greyheart gives you a way to keep digging through your deck, and Stealth minions are prime candidates for Praise Galakrond and/or Cold Blood.Shadow Word Ruin: 4
Scarlet Subjugator: 1
Psychic Conjurer: 1
Power Infusion: 2
Natalie Seline: 3
Kul Tiran Chaplain: 2
Soul Mirror: 4
Reliquary of Souls: 3
Skeletal Dragon: 3
Sethekk Veilweaver: 1
Psyche Split: 2
Dragonmaw Overseer: 1
Dragonmaw Sentinel: 2
Apotheosis: 3
Imprisoned Homunculus: 2
Renew: 2
Shaman Shaman is in trouble. It is already the worst class in the game, and I don’t think it got anything that changes its position. It got a smattering of okay cards, but none of them really do anything. Hagatha is gone, Shudderwock is gone. There’s maybe a slight chance for a Murloc/Desert Hare/Sea Giant/Burn decks. Those got a few tools, but I don’t know if they’re enough to dig shaman out of the very deep hole it’s in. Vasj goes face, though, and she does it well.Akama: 3
Shadowjeweler Hanar: 4
Greyheart Sage: 4
Bamboozle: 2
Ambush: 2
Ashtongue Slayer: 2
Blackjack Stunner: 4
Cursed Vagrant: 1
Dirty Tricks: 2
Spymistress: 2
Warlock Warlock got a handful of fine cards. It got some handlock stuff that looks flashy, but probably won’t overcome the fact that we lost Mountain Giant. It got some zoo stuff that’s okay, but probably doesn’t change the fact that Rogue is still a massive road block. It did get a small package of cards that I am incredibly interested in: Hand of Gul’dan and Nightshade Matron (along with expired Merchant). You can absolutely tear through your deck with these cards. I also think they work with the Galakrond package – because Expired Merchant can copy Galakrond when you’re done drawing cards, and Veiled Worshipper doubles down on the card draw. I think there’s something here. There’s also a REALLY highroll-y Demon Buff package (Shadow Council and Scrap Imp). I don’t think the deck is terribly consistent, but it will blow you out sometimes, and you will be very upset.The Lurker Below: 3
Lady Vashj: 3
Boggspine Knuckles: 3
Shattered Rumbler: 1
Torrent: 2
Vivid Spores: 2
Bogstrock Clacker: 1
Marshspawn: 2
Serpentshrine Portal: 2
Totemic Reflection: 1Keli’dan the Breaker: 2
Kanrethad Ebonlocke: 2
Darkglare: 2
Shadow Council: 3
Enhanced Dreadlord: 2
The Dark Portal: 1
Imprisoned Scrap Imp: 3
Hand of Gul’dan: 4
Nightshade Matron: 4
Unstable Felbolt: 2 (3 if it works without a minion on your side of the board)
Warrior
Warrior received a few decent cards, but they all seem like role players rather than stars. Since Galakrond Warrior is so strong, this is probably a good thing. The loss of Acolyte of Pain is a big deal, though. It will be interesting to see how that loss is overcome. If a warrior control deck exists, its probably Highlander. I don’t think any other version is powerful enough without Boom. The cards that seem like they will see a good amount of play, though be unspectacular, are Corsair Cache, Bladestorm, and Warmaul Challenger. They’re all individually powerful, and have a lot of synergy with your standard “warrior things.”
Neutrals There’s one card that matters here. Maiev. She is a Zilliax level craft. The only time I could see you excluding her is if, as a deck, you are doing something hyperspecific and all 30 cards are incredibly synergistic. There are a few other noteworthy ones. Kael’thas has her place. Overconfident Orc is as close to Tar Creeper as we’ve seen in a while. Frozen Shadoweaver and Burrowing Scorpid look like solid utility minions that should see play here and there. Bonechewer Brawler is a surprising bundle of stats and effect. Guardian Augmerchant looks very good, but I’m not sure where I’d play him right now.Kargath Bladefist: 2
Bulwark of Azzinoth: 2
Bladestorm: 3
Warmaul Challenger: 3
Bloodboil Brute: 3
Scrap Golem: 2
Corsair Cache: 4
Bonechewer Raider: 2
Sword and Board: 2Kael’thas Sunstrider: 2
Al’ar: 2
Magtheridon: 1
Maiev Shadowsong: 5
Teron Gorefiend: 2
Waste Warden: 2
Replicat-o-tron: 1
Mo’arg Artificer: 2
Scrapyard Colossus: 2
Blistering Rot: 1
Infectious Sporeling: 1
Supreme Abyssal: 1
Bonechewer Vanguard: 2
Dragonmaw Sky Stalker: 2
Scavenging Shivarra: 2
Rusted Raider: 2
Rustsworn Cultist: 1
Disguised Wanderer: 1
Felfin Navigator: 2
Burrowing Scorpid: 3
Terrorguard Escapee: 1
Overconfident Orc: 4
Frozen Shadoweaver: 3
Imprisoned Vilefiend: 1
Bonechewer Brawler: 3
Rustsworn Initiate: 1
Ethereal Augmerchant: 1
Spellbound Ashtongue: 2
Rocket Augmerchant: 2
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This is such a stupid fucking tavern brawl. This and the chess piece one are such a pain in the ass.
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I hear you, was also extremely disappointed when I saw that Pally's prime legendary was a murloc.
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Not my precious Leeroy :(
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I'm on IOS and am also having issues.
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Is anyone actually winning games with this deck? Super fun concept but I'm getting annihilated with it.
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I actually think this is a pretty good template for a meme deck as well - ie Mogu Cultist + Stow Away! Thanks for making this, will experiment with asap.
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I can still play the game (only have it on mobile IOS) but still, I paid for the pre-order so this is getting a bit annoying.
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My only issue with rogue is how many lackeys it generates and how long you have to sit there while they discover this, discover that, add more lackeys, discover this. Almost every time I play rogue now they go to the end of rope, it's annoying.
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Yes. It's not a 2/2 taunt, it's 2 1/1's with taunt.
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I think you guys are sleeping on this card. This is busted imo and will see just as much play as Righteous Protector.