i would love to join, NA server here, but i have to say my internet connection is shit to say the least so I'd only be able to chat in game and randomly i may get disconnected. At least until i get a job and get me actual internet (i'm using a phone's tethered internet right now. reminds me of the 90s where you really couldn't do much online without it crapping out....had i not been alive back then i probably wouldn't even bother.)
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The intention of this group is to create a "safe zone" for people to play fun decks without the threat of aggro killing them before they have fun. If you think aggro is fun, go play ladder. I don't want to sound rude here, but that's not the kind of playstyle this group is trying to promote.
and if i think aggro is fun :/ maybe that sentence should be edited a little bit
Personally, I have no issue with any deck. However, I'm going to assume that the person who wants to play will want a midrange or control deck. Given that assumption, I will be playing decks with that assumption in place. Thus playing Aggro even to someone who normally doesn't mind will be..well meh since they won't be suited against it in any way.
and if i think aggro is fun :/ maybe that sentence should be edited a little bit
Personally, I have no issue with any deck. However, I'm going to assume that the person who wants to play will want a midrange or control deck. Given that assumption, I will be playing decks with that assumption in place. Thus playing Aggro even to someone who normally doesn't mind will be..well meh since they won't be suited against it in any way.
Ditto. I might be interested in playing an untested aggro deck, but I'd rather not be contending with a zoolock or mech mage variation.
I won't necessarily have a problem with it - but if you play me with this sort of deck, please be willing to retire it after one game.
Is there any requirements about skill level I might be not the best player in the world, but I have to say I cant imagine to finally add someone who actually wants to play fun decks together haha
I do play control decks but I am not scared of facing agro, infact beating agro is the fun part of playing control. Most control vs control go on till fatigue and it is not really fun, you lose just because of better card draw. Infact this is reason for many people liking arena where skills matter more and hardly anyone gets to make a face deck. If the reason for the guild is to avoid agro, then we should play arena, playing friendly matches to just avoid agro doesn't make sense.
Also it is infact counter productive, while people who play control are playing friendly matches, people who play agro are climbing ladder. You need to beat agro at the ladder so that they dont play it (goes out of meta). Avoiding ladder will not be the solution.
I do play control decks but I am not scared of facing agro, infact beating agro is the fun part of playing control. Most control vs control go on till fatigue and it is not really fun, you lose just because of better card draw. Infact this is reason for many people liking arena where skills matter more and hardly anyone gets to make a face deck. If the reason for the guild is to avoid agro, then we should play arena, playing friendly matches to just avoid agro doesn't make sense.
Also it is infact counter productive, while people who play control are playing friendly matches, people who play agro are climbing ladder. You need to beat agro at the ladder so that they dont play it (goes out of meta). Avoiding ladder will not be the solution.
Not everyone has the goal of trying to kill aggro. Aggro is a part of the game. It's actually meant to take down control, not the other way around. Beating aggro involves playing Combo or Midrange in style.
Also it assumes that people want to play competitively. Note the 'casual' element. These aren't NBA players who want to change the game. These are folks who want out of the NBA and to go play some regular hoops. Arena doesn't really offer that and it costs gold which is in short supply especially for those saving up for BRM. Ranked and Casual aren't really good places for just..well casual play.
Not everyone has to be some Control Crusader. Personally I'm more than sick of the "pick a side" mentality where those that aren't 'your side' are enemies to fight off. These people aren't here to 'defeat the aggros!'. They are here to play a game.
So let them.
If you are interested in non-competitive casual play with folks who want to play non-meta or control decks then join on up. If not, then no need to fuss at folks who do.
I do play control decks but I am not scared of facing agro, infact beating agro is the fun part of playing control. Most control vs control go on till fatigue and it is not really fun, you lose just because of better card draw. Infact this is reason for many people liking arena where skills matter more and hardly anyone gets to make a face deck. If the reason for the guild is to avoid agro, then we should play arena, playing friendly matches to just avoid agro doesn't make sense.
Also it is infact counter productive, while people who play control are playing friendly matches, people who play agro are climbing ladder. You need to beat agro at the ladder so that they dont play it (goes out of meta). Avoiding ladder will not be the solution.
Not everyone has the goal of trying to kill aggro. Aggro is a part of the game. It's actually meant to take down control, not the other way around. Beating aggro involves playing Combo or Midrange in style.
Also it assumes that people want to play competitively. Note the 'casual' element. These aren't NBA players who want to change the game. These are folks who want out of the NBA and to go play some regular hoops. Arena doesn't really offer that and it costs gold which is in short supply especially for those saving up for BRM. Ranked and Casual aren't really good places for just..well casual play.
Not everyone has to be some Control Crusader. Personally I'm more than sick of the "pick a side" mentality where those that aren't 'your side' are enemies to fight off. These people aren't here to 'defeat the aggros!'. They are here to play a game.
So let them.
If you are interested in non-competitive casual play with folks who want to play non-meta or control decks then join on up. If not, then no need to fuss at folks who do.
Well said.
The ultimate goal of the game is get your opponent's health to zero. Once that is achieved, the game is over. Aggro decks (like Face Hunter) do that very effectively and quickly, often before turn 10 is reached.
Now what they can't do is to do it in style. I mean you might say that what the hell are styles for when you can win quickly. Sure, but there will always be players who want to get a little deeper, try to win games by board control and flashy combo or shits. And that's perfectly fine, too. I think the idea of the group is to let those kind of players find each other and have some fun shenanigan together without worrying about win percentage or ladder climbing.
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The real question is how do you define if someone's deck is "aggro" and thus not allowed?
If the intention of the deck is to kill your opponent without any regard to what they play. It really depends, and midrange even can push it. Just not something super fast so people can play with extremely late game cards that don't ever see play because they come out at the point in the game where you're already dead.
The real question is how do you define if someone's deck is "aggro" and thus not allowed?
If the intention of the deck is to kill your opponent without any regard to what they play. It really depends, and midrange even can push it. Just not something super fast so people can play with extremely late game cards that don't ever see play because they come out at the point in the game where you're already dead.
That's not aggro.
Aggro is a very specific concept. It means this: I am at my most powerful in the early game. That's really it.
It doesn't have to be a FACE deck per se, but it has to have it's main power be early on rather than later.
All deck have their 'sweet spot' the area where they start to become abusive and try to kill you. Control decks do so in the late game. For example, Control Warrior doesn't really supply much of a real threat until at least turn 6, and most won't kill you until at least turn 10 due to the threats they have.
Midrange tends to hit their stride at around turn 5 or so. Priest is an example. They rarly have anything interesting until turn 3 at all, but it's turn4 when they can wipe the board and turn 6 when they start regularly putting out the hard to handle combos and trickier minions like Cabal. Even though they can kill in the late game, their threats are still 3-6 mana mostly with 1-2 legendaries as a final blow perhaps.
(before you get confused consider this: Ragnaros tends to end games if a priest uses him. He tends to be 'just another minion' in a warrior deck.)
Aggro starts their sweet spot at turn 1 and start to weaken at around turn 5. If they don't have control of the game by then, they desperately try to push out one more push for the final blow, then die.
Note that aggro can be board controling. Zoo is an example of this. Correct zoo play involves grabbing the board quick then wiping out everything close to a threat while quickly becoming uncontrolable. Compare with face hunter which will not even bother with a good trade in order to slam the face instead.
So yes, aggro is a deck who's main strength is in it's early game.
Note that 'killing opponent without caring what they play" is also the trademark of Combo decks, which are the main archetype of midrange decks. Old Miracle is a perfect example of this. It also ends up not including zoo which very much cares what you have so long as it's a real threat (they aren't really going to care much about a 4/4 azure dragon unless it actually threatens to kill a major part of their board, but ALL decks shouldn't care about a minion that doesn't pose a real threat) but is very much an aggro deck.
Feel free to add me. I think that HS could really benefit from a social tool being added to the game, other than the friends list. I look forward to playing y'all.
i would love to join, NA server here, but i have to say my internet connection is shit to say the least so I'd only be able to chat in game and randomly i may get disconnected. At least until i get a job and get me actual internet (i'm using a phone's tethered internet right now. reminds me of the 90s where you really couldn't do much online without it crapping out....had i not been alive back then i probably wouldn't even bother.)
Doctor Who? Dr. Boom. Timelord and Friend of All Daleks(Boom Bot).
and if i think aggro is fun :/ maybe that sentence should be edited a little bit
You'r whining about waiting for an update. That cute, let's talk about half life 3
The intention of this group is to create a "safe zone" for people to play fun decks without the threat of aggro killing them before they have fun. If you think aggro is fun, go play ladder. I don't want to sound rude here, but that's not the kind of playstyle this group is trying to promote.
I have no time for gains!
Personally, I have no issue with any deck. However, I'm going to assume that the person who wants to play will want a midrange or control deck. Given that assumption, I will be playing decks with that assumption in place. Thus playing Aggro even to someone who normally doesn't mind will be..well meh since they won't be suited against it in any way.
One does not simply walk into Mordor,
unless they want to be the best they can be.
Ditto. I might be interested in playing an untested aggro deck, but I'd rather not be contending with a zoolock or mech mage variation.
I won't necessarily have a problem with it - but if you play me with this sort of deck, please be willing to retire it after one game.
Is there any requirements about skill level I might be not the best player in the world, but I have to say I cant imagine to finally add someone who actually wants to play fun decks together haha
Tsumitsuki#1904
I do play control decks but I am not scared of facing agro, infact beating agro is the fun part of playing control. Most control vs control go on till fatigue and it is not really fun, you lose just because of better card draw. Infact this is reason for many people liking arena where skills matter more and hardly anyone gets to make a face deck. If the reason for the guild is to avoid agro, then we should play arena, playing friendly matches to just avoid agro doesn't make sense.
Also it is infact counter productive, while people who play control are playing friendly matches, people who play agro are climbing ladder. You need to beat agro at the ladder so that they dont play it (goes out of meta). Avoiding ladder will not be the solution.
Not everyone has the goal of trying to kill aggro. Aggro is a part of the game. It's actually meant to take down control, not the other way around. Beating aggro involves playing Combo or Midrange in style.
Also it assumes that people want to play competitively. Note the 'casual' element. These aren't NBA players who want to change the game. These are folks who want out of the NBA and to go play some regular hoops. Arena doesn't really offer that and it costs gold which is in short supply especially for those saving up for BRM. Ranked and Casual aren't really good places for just..well casual play.
Not everyone has to be some Control Crusader. Personally I'm more than sick of the "pick a side" mentality where those that aren't 'your side' are enemies to fight off. These people aren't here to 'defeat the aggros!'. They are here to play a game.
So let them.
If you are interested in non-competitive casual play with folks who want to play non-meta or control decks then join on up. If not, then no need to fuss at folks who do.
One does not simply walk into Mordor,
unless they want to be the best they can be.
I´d definitely join in if we get an EU-Tournament together
amituofo#2373
Well said.
The ultimate goal of the game is get your opponent's health to zero. Once that is achieved, the game is over. Aggro decks (like Face Hunter) do that very effectively and quickly, often before turn 10 is reached.
Now what they can't do is to do it in style. I mean you might say that what the hell are styles for when you can win quickly. Sure, but there will always be players who want to get a little deeper, try to win games by board control and flashy combo or shits. And that's perfectly fine, too. I think the idea of the group is to let those kind of players find each other and have some fun shenanigan together without worrying about win percentage or ladder climbing.
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This sounds a great idea and a nice change of pace from the ladder grind. I play on NA and would love to join as well.
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JeanRalphio#1813
Sounds fun, my computer is garbage tho so I would need to use my tablet. :/ is that ok?
The real question is how do you define if someone's deck is "aggro" and thus not allowed?
If i had to guess it would be having the constant turn 2, 3 minions down and some face damage with 90% of the deck 4 or less drops.
Sound interesting.
Oblivion!
Tablet is fine! You can still challenge friends on it if I'm not mistaken, which is the only technical requirement.
If the intention of the deck is to kill your opponent without any regard to what they play. It really depends, and midrange even can push it. Just not something super fast so people can play with extremely late game cards that don't ever see play because they come out at the point in the game where you're already dead.
I have no time for gains!
That's not aggro.
Aggro is a very specific concept. It means this: I am at my most powerful in the early game. That's really it.
It doesn't have to be a FACE deck per se, but it has to have it's main power be early on rather than later.
All deck have their 'sweet spot' the area where they start to become abusive and try to kill you. Control decks do so in the late game. For example, Control Warrior doesn't really supply much of a real threat until at least turn 6, and most won't kill you until at least turn 10 due to the threats they have.
Midrange tends to hit their stride at around turn 5 or so. Priest is an example. They rarly have anything interesting until turn 3 at all, but it's turn4 when they can wipe the board and turn 6 when they start regularly putting out the hard to handle combos and trickier minions like Cabal. Even though they can kill in the late game, their threats are still 3-6 mana mostly with 1-2 legendaries as a final blow perhaps.
(before you get confused consider this: Ragnaros tends to end games if a priest uses him. He tends to be 'just another minion' in a warrior deck.)
Aggro starts their sweet spot at turn 1 and start to weaken at around turn 5. If they don't have control of the game by then, they desperately try to push out one more push for the final blow, then die.
Note that aggro can be board controling. Zoo is an example of this. Correct zoo play involves grabbing the board quick then wiping out everything close to a threat while quickly becoming uncontrolable. Compare with face hunter which will not even bother with a good trade in order to slam the face instead.
So yes, aggro is a deck who's main strength is in it's early game.
Note that 'killing opponent without caring what they play" is also the trademark of Combo decks, which are the main archetype of midrange decks. Old Miracle is a perfect example of this. It also ends up not including zoo which very much cares what you have so long as it's a real threat (they aren't really going to care much about a 4/4 azure dragon unless it actually threatens to kill a major part of their board, but ALL decks shouldn't care about a minion that doesn't pose a real threat) but is very much an aggro deck.
One does not simply walk into Mordor,
unless they want to be the best they can be.
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Feel free to add me. I think that HS could really benefit from a social tool being added to the game, other than the friends list. I look forward to playing y'all.
BaronGraves#1677
I need more HS friends!! :}
I am on EU, and I am SO into that idea
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